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Democratic Thunderdome: It's on!

ElkiElki get busyModerator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
edited January 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
To participate in this debate a candidate needs to finish in the top 3 in any DNC sanctioned contest, or score more than 5% in a "recognized" national poll.


Location: Myrtle Beach, South Carolina

Network: CNN

Date & Time: January 21 (that's Monday), 8:00 P.M. EST

Candidates:

Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Barack Obama

Candidates who do not meet the criteria:

Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich


Moderators: Wolf Blitzer

Webstream: www.cnn.com



This is not the general primaries thread. General primaries talk goes here.

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  • Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Jesus, Wolf gets this one too? Damnit.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2008
    Checklist everyone:

    Obama Shrines....Check
    Obama Charms....Check
    Popcorn....Check
    Surge, the soda that surges....Check
    Wolf Blitzer Voodoo Dolls....Check


    Lets do this!

    Also, bonus: I have secured enough county votes to proceed to the state convention as an Obama delegate (though technically its not official until Feb 23rd). Make sure if you caucus in your state you go around your precinct and get votes ahead of time to be elected as an Obama county delegate, and then have a chance as a state and national delegate. If this turns into an open convention, we need to have as many hardcore Obama loyalists among the delegates as possible.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I think Obama might get a couple of softballs this time. Or maybe they'll be allowed to ask their own questions, and Blitzer is just a moderator.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    God, why can't NPR do televised debates or something. I would make sweet man-love to Robert Seigel to get Wolf Blitzer out of his "moderator" position.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    At least he won't be doing the generals, right? That's the realm of Lehrer and Ifill.

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  • geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    At least he won't be doing the generals, right? That's the realm of Lehrer and Ifill.

    Correct. they'd never let Blitzer near a general election debate.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2008
    Someone needs to change the title so people know whats going on.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    ...oh fuck this is running against American Gladiators
    D:

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    As someone who has never watched Wolf Blitzer do anything before, what is wrong with him? Aside from his name being so goddamn ridiculous.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    ...oh fuck this is running against American Gladiators
    D:

    DVR ftw!

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    They should get Anderson to moderate. At least then we could look into his pretty eyes.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    ...oh fuck this is running against American Gladiators
    D:

    DVR ftw!
    Ha ha, he thinks we have DVR in this house. Man, I have a 13-inch TV that has a VHS slot in it and it runs like a horse. Tivo is not coming to my room anytime soon. (The way things in this room are set up, 13 is actually sufficient.)

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    His last debate was... not so great

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    As someone who has never watched Wolf Blitzer do anything before, what is wrong with him? Aside from his name being so goddamn ridiculous.

    He has a penchant for being vapid, ill-informed, and asking stupid questions. So he's basically par for the course in the MSM. If you want a good primer on CNN ass-hattery look up the shitshow that occurred when CNN had Michael Moore on to talk about Sicko, and right before he came on they had a piece from Sanja Gupta tearing the movie apart with figures that were complete bullshit and in complete disagreement with the verified facts that Moore had sent them. Moore called them on it and Blitzer tried to play CNN apologist and yea... I'll try and dig it up.

    EDIT: Here's a youtube search page with the initial interview and the resulting fallout, I forgot Moore and Gupta went on Larry King and Moore ripped him apart.

    http://youtube.com/results?search_query=moore+gupta&search=Search

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    so...the Secret Service agents will be focused on protecting the candidates, but not the moderator, right? right?

    (goddamit can't Anderson Cooper moderate or something?)

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    As someone who has never watched Wolf Blitzer do anything before, what is wrong with him? Aside from his name being so goddamn ridiculous.

    He has a penchant for being vapid, ill-informed, and asking stupid questions. So he's basically par for the course in the MSM. If you want a good primer on CNN ass-hattery look up the shitshow that occurred when CNN had Michael Moore on to talk about Sicko, and right before he came on they had a piece from Sanja Gupta tearing the movie apart with figures that were complete bullshit and in complete disagreement with the verified facts that Moore had sent them. Moore called them on it and Blitzer tried to play CNN apologist and yea... I'll try and dig it up.

    He's also just about the dullest speaker in the world.

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Right when I have to work. :( At least I have this thread to come back to afterwards. CNN web streams are always crappy anyway....

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2008
    Wolf Blitzer: Obama, should we fight the Al Qeada terrorists in Iraq? Yes or no?

    Obama: Well, I don't consider most Iraqi insurgents to be Al Qeada, and I think Al Qeada should be our primary focu...

    Wolf Blitzer: YES OR NO?!

    Obama: Uh, no?

    Wolf Blitzer: Do you love the terrorists?

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  • Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Pre-debate winner: Obama.

    God I hope so



    Oh and did someone mention...

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    <3<3<3

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  • BitstreamBitstream Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    ...oh fuck this is running against American Gladiators
    D:

    NBC and CNN have agreed to switch the roles of Wolf Blitzer and gladiator Wolf for tonight's events. Let's see if anyone notices.

    Also, goddammit this is also running against Life After People, which I've been dying to see.

    [Edit] - so, are we IRCing for this? #newhampshire again?

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    We should just have one set channel. Get it registered and everything, all official-like.

    That being said I guess I'll mosey on down to #newhampshire, but since my internet is being spotty I expect to disconnect often.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Damn, nearly forgot about the IRC channel. I'll be in there.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2008
    I'm not IRCing. The thread is enough, for me.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Who the hells is this guy, and what's with the stream of consciousness?

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  • MusiquaMusiqua Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Apparently, there won't be any debating rules for the second half of the debate. That could be interesting.

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    "My name is Wolf, and yes, that's my real name. I didn't make it up during the Iraq War."

    (pause and grin for nonexistent laughter)

    "Uh. Anyways."

    Gonna be a long night.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bitstream wrote: »
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    ...oh fuck this is running against American Gladiators
    D:

    NBC and CNN have agreed to switch the roles of Wolf Blitzer and gladiator Wolf for tonight's events. Let's see if anyone notices.
    Dammit, now I actually want to see that.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    "It's the deep breath before the plunge."

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    "Before we begin this debate, let's go ahead and predetermine the winner."

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Hilary looks really old tonight.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    wow, yeah. she looks a little, uh, frumpy?

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Edi: I can't read!

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm hoping for a major cock up tonight.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Obama's really tall when standing next to the others, never noticed that until now.

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Edi: I can't read!

    Neither can I!

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    I'm hoping for a major cock up tonight.

    on HILLARY'S part, right? ;-)

    cause the only cock ups i see possible are on Wolf's part, and that's just cause he's an asshat.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2008
    I am already stabbing the voodoo doll of blizter and I havent heard any questions yet, is this wrong?

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well, this is really poorly run.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Wolf telegraphing that he'll be asking a lot of racial questions. Thereby dragging Obama kicking and screaming into that whole thing.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2008
    Christ, honor system again? Did we not learn our lesson last time?

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