Battlefield Heroes - wah wah wah

GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Games and Technology
So, apparently EA are releasing a new (free of sorts) Battlefield game which appears to have at the least taken its graphical cue from Team Fortress 2.

BBC News article.

Official Website.

It'll be supported by ingame advertising and micropayments. This being EA you just know they'll be making you pay through the nose for even the simplest weapon or item.

£1.99 for go faster stripes on your jeep!



I think the truly sad thing is this quote from the BBC News article: "The games has a "cartoon-feel" and has been made simpler to play, with more emphasis on participation and fun than skill and strategy."

One of the biggest, perhaps best things about Battlefield was the strategy and tactics. On large maps it's an ebb and flow as each team adapts to each other. If they move it to a plain shooter I think the series has taken a turn for the worst.



UPDATE!

Customisation trailer.

There will be a beta.

That neato theme music is up for download.

Minimum specs:
* Operating System: Windows XP or Windows Vista
* CPU: 1.0 GHz
* RAM: 512 Mb (1Gb on Windows Vista)
* Video Card: 64Mb DirectX compliant video card with at least pixel shader 2.0 support
* Hard Drive space: 1Gb of space is required to install the game
* Internet connection: 256kbit Cable/DSL connection



UPDATE! (17/03/09)

Beta keys are now being handed out.

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  • ZeonZeon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    So, apparently EA are releasing a new (free of sorts) Battlefield game which appears to have at the least taken its graphical cue from Team Fortress 2.

    I assume you mean by this "completely ripped it off".

    When i went to the website i thought "Hey its weird they have ads for TF2 on here", until i realised my mistake.

    I thought Bad Company was the next BF game though.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    £1.99 go fasta red paint on da wartruckz!

    fixed for more waugh.

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    TF2 with tanks! And it's free! What's not to like about this?

    I must say, I really appreciate this new trend - with this and HoMM Kingdoms coming out this year, I can save me alot of money and still fulfill all my gaming needs.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I was going to say something about how the EA hate in the first post was pretty petty and unnecessary

    But I am just stunned by the blatant ripoff of TF2

    I mean holy shit

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Zeon wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    So, apparently EA are releasing a new (free of sorts) Battlefield game which appears to have at the least taken its graphical cue from Team Fortress 2.

    I assume you mean by this "completely ripped it off".

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Haha, I like how they're only screenshot is a magazine cover, and TF2 is on it as well.


    Man...got to love this spin:
    "People want to play games in new ways, with easier access that is quick to the fun."

    Yeah, so we've decided you're going to have to pay for every new map and gun we release

    There's a reason people like Valve better, it's the free stuff (games modes, maps, hell 3 games in a box was awesome). EA doesn't quite seem to get this yet.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    TF2 with tanks! And it's free! What's not to like about this?

    The shameful bandwagon jumping? The in game advertising? A game built around micro payments?

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited January 2008
    Ben Cousins, senior producer at Dice, told BBC News that no adverts would be appear in the game itself.

    "They wouldn't work inside the fictional world. Instead, adverts will appear on the website and the 'front-end' of the game."

    Yeah, like that design will last.

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Rami wrote: »
    TF2 with tanks! And it's free! What's not to like about this?

    The shameful bandwagon jumping? The in game advertising? A game built around micro payments?

    See, but this makes your last two points pretty much invalid.

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Echo wrote: »
    Ben Cousins, senior producer at Dice, told BBC News that no adverts would be appear in the game itself.

    "They wouldn't work inside the fictional world. Instead, adverts will appear on the website and the 'front-end' of the game."

    Yeah, like that design will last.

    I'm going to make a prediction now...

    It will be like six unskippable intros at the beginning that people will most likely mod out in the first few days

    And maybe some ads plastered all over their horrible server browser.



    If there's one thing they need to do for this game, it's give it a good server browser. I don't think the BF series has ever been graced with one

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
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    Pretty much sums up my views on micropayments. I'll stick to TF2, thanks all the same.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    "EA put ads in their games and charge me for this? DISGRACEFUL, MAKE IT FREE!!"

    "They're making an ad-supported game and releasing it for free? YOU MONEY GRUBBING SONS OF..

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  • HearthjawHearthjaw Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Is it just me or does the distinct lack of information just make this game look fake. I'm it's actually real and everything but it just seems fake.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Browser/Free games with shitloads of micro payments and games with lower system reqs seem to be the wave of the future.

    I'm pretty excited by that idea.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    darleysam wrote: »
    "EA put ads in their games and charge me for this? DISGRACEFUL, MAKE IT FREE!!"

    "They're making an ad-supported game and releasing it for free? YOU MONEY GRUBBING SONS OF..

    Or perhaps we're just skeptical about the form the micropayments are going to take? Maybe?

    At least they've stated that you can't buy an in-game advantage, although I'm willing to wait and see on that.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    "EA put ads in their games and charge me for this? DISGRACEFUL, MAKE IT FREE!!"

    "They're making an ad-supported game and releasing it for free? YOU MONEY GRUBBING SONS OF..

    Or perhaps we're just skeptical about the form the micropayments are going to take? Maybe?

    At least they've stated that you can't buy an in-game advantage, although I'm willing to wait and see on that.

    Yeah, but they're not the first company to base a game on ads and payments, but because they're EA, they'll be making you pay to play!!!!

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I started laughing when I saw that GFW cover. The rip-off of TF2's art style is just so blatant and sad.

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  • AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Asian games do this all the time. Release the base game for free, then pay for additional items which power up your character. You could even set them to a time limit. Want to keep that red paint on for another week? Another £1.99 please!

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    darleysam wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    "EA put ads in their games and charge me for this? DISGRACEFUL, MAKE IT FREE!!"

    "They're making an ad-supported game and releasing it for free? YOU MONEY GRUBBING SONS OF..

    Or perhaps we're just skeptical about the form the micropayments are going to take? Maybe?

    At least they've stated that you can't buy an in-game advantage, although I'm willing to wait and see on that.

    Yeah, but they're not the first company to base a game on ads and payments, but because they're EA, they'll be making you pay to play!!!!

    Not because they're EA. It's simply endemic to that publishing model. Like Airan said a lot of games from Asia do just that.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I have no problem with a free ad supported game whatsoever. But....

    EA once again prove that if it's not -
    1. An established franchise
    2. A very established genre
    3. A license
    4. Cheap for them to acquire publishing rights
    Then they aren't interested in it.

    Sigh.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Yeah, but I'm seeing people getting offended that EA would dare charge us money, when I don't see the same complaints for Latest Micropayment-Supported Korean MMO.

    Basically, unfounded EA-hate pisses me off no end.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    darleysam wrote: »
    Yeah, but I'm seeing people getting offended that EA would dare charge us money, when I don't see the same complaints for Latest Micropayment-Supported Korean MMO.

    Basically, unfounded EA-hate pisses me off no end.

    Well I hate that business model. But I hate racing sims too. Doesn't mean I think devs/publishers who make them are bad.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    It's not a business model I necessarily support, but if it means I get to play a decent game for free (that I probably wouldn't have bought otherwise, I'm not really a fan of multiplayer-centric games), then I'm not going to complain.
    OH NOES I have to pay to pimp out my guy! Then I won't pay and I'll just use the default player skin. Just as well it's free.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    easier access that is quick to the fun.

    These words are the best put together ever.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    I have no problem with a free ad supported game whatsoever. But....

    EA once again prove that if it's not -
    1. An established franchise
    2. A very established genre
    3. A license
    4. Cheap for them to acquire publishing rights
    Then they aren't interested in it.

    Sigh.

    Who'd have thought a publicly floated company was interested in making money? And besides, even with the other major publishers you'd be hard pressed to name more than a couple of games that didn't tick all those boxes.

    And EA are busy funding Spore which is very much an unknown except that it has Will Wrights name on it.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I may be crazy, but I actually want to play this game.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Rook wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    I have no problem with a free ad supported game whatsoever. But....

    EA once again prove that if it's not -
    1. An established franchise
    2. A very established genre
    3. A license
    4. Cheap for them to acquire publishing rights
    Then they aren't interested in it.

    Sigh.

    Who'd have thought a publicly floated company was interested in making money? And besides, even with the other major publishers you'd be hard pressed to name more than a couple of games that didn't tick all those boxes.

    And EA are busy funding Spore which is very much an unknown except that it has Will Wrights name on it.
    Well Activision and Nintendo seem to manage it.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    I have no problem with a free ad supported game whatsoever. But....

    EA once again prove that if it's not -
    1. An established franchise
    2. A very established genre
    3. A license
    4. Cheap for them to acquire publishing rights
    Then they aren't interested in it.

    Sigh.

    Who'd have thought a publicly floated company was interested in making money? And besides, even with the other major publishers you'd be hard pressed to name more than a couple of games that didn't tick all those boxes.

    And EA are busy funding Spore which is very much an unknown except that it has Will Wrights name on it.
    Well Activision and Nintendo seem to manage it.

    Lewie, I like you, I really do. Please tell me that's sarcasm.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well Nintendo certainly take risks. Freshly Picked? Brain Training? Nintendogs? The Wii?

    Activision maybe not so much, but I bet Guitar Hero wasn't an easy sell.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Free games that run off low-end machines?

    Gaming for cheap students has arrived!

    Also because I hardly have time to spend gaming due to work, I'm not at all tempted to micropay for anything because I'm happy running about with the lowest-end pistol for twenty minutes every few days. Awesome.
    Well Nintendo certainly take risks. Freshly Picked? Brain Training? Nintendogs? The Wii?

    No idea what Freshly Picked is, but Brain Training is just a modified gaming section of a newspaper, Nintendogs is just a pretty tamagotchi, etc. Plus both of those are hardly huge budget games. It's not risky if it doesn't cost much.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    Well Nintendo certainly take risks. Freshly Picked? Brain Training? Nintendogs? The Wii?

    Activision maybe not so much, but I bet Guitar Hero wasn't an easy sell.

    There's also one or two popular franchises by Nintendo and Activision that see frequent iterations. I'm just saying if you're going to wade in on EA for releasing only safe-bet games (do I need to mention skate again? I'll do it..), they're not the only ones.

    Again, it's a free game that I'll likely pick up and play when I otherwise probably wouldn't have. If I have to go without a few bells and whistles because I don't want to pay £4.99 for rims and spinnaz on my Jeep, then so be it.
    If it turns out to not be any good, well then I'll just have to demand my money back.

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  • griffincatgriffincat Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Here's the NYTimes take on the same thing: here

    The idea of a micropayment sort-of free Madden game is vaguely intriguing, though. Think of all of the armchair quarterbacks in this world playing that on their cable boxes or whatnot. Maybe even Peyton Manning can do the commercials...

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    corcorigan wrote: »
    Free games that run off low-end machines?

    Gaming for cheap students has arrived!

    Also because I hardly have time to spend gaming due to work, I'm not at all tempted to micropay for anything because I'm happy running about with the lowest-end pistol for twenty minutes every few days. Awesome.
    Well Nintendo certainly take risks. Freshly Picked? Brain Training? Nintendogs? The Wii?

    No idea what Freshly Picked is, but Brain Training is just a modified gaming section of a newspaper, Nintendogs is just a pretty tamagotchi, etc. Plus both of those are hardly huge budget games. It's not risky if it doesn't cost much.

    I'd just like to mention that when the DS first arrived on the scene everyone thought it'd be an abject failure and that the PSP would rule the handheld market.

    Nintendo took a risk with the DS, hence why it's actually called the DS and not the Gameboy, which at the time was the established name for a quality gaming handheld. Nintendo didn't want to risk tarnishing the Gameboy name in-case it was a failure.


    /derailing my own post

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Aren't most games based on micropayments hellholes where those who can afford it can easily kill the people who can't afford it?
    “The existing Battlefield games are fairly deep; you have to be pretty good or you’ll die pretty quick,” Mr. Florin said Friday in a telephone interview from Geneva. “Now we’ve toned down the difficulty, shortened each game session to 10 or 15 minutes and made the visual style more cartoony.”
    How can you tone down the difficulty much in a PvP game?

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    Well Nintendo certainly take risks. Freshly Picked? Brain Training? Nintendogs? The Wii?

    Activision maybe not so much, but I bet Guitar Hero wasn't an easy sell.

    I'll do this kindly. Activision bought Red Octane, the original Guitar Hero publisher. Now what other money grabbing publisher goes around buying up devs/pubs and running their franchises into the ground?

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mr Cousins said EA expected 95% of people who played the game never to spend any money.

    Hmm, I wonder what kind of stuff they will be charging for?

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Rook wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Well Nintendo certainly take risks. Freshly Picked? Brain Training? Nintendogs? The Wii?

    Activision maybe not so much, but I bet Guitar Hero wasn't an easy sell.

    I'll do this kindly. Activision bought Red Octane, the original Guitar Hero publisher. Now what other money grabbing publisher goes around buying up devs/pubs and running their franchises into the ground?

    Really? I thought they published the first one.

    Hmm, maybe I need to change my opinion...

    Edit: although this discussion is kinda off topic, lets end it here.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I just want Battlefield 3 already. It it's really on a modified engine from Bad Company, with the high level of personal player customization, then that's all I really need. Imagine the urban maps by the end of the round with that engine, since the engine allows for some really cool building and foliage destructibility. Both teams move into a sprawling city, and as the match goes on, it literally becomes a war zone with the crumbled husks of buildings.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Dublo7 wrote: »
    Mr Cousins said EA expected 95% of people who played the game never to spend any money.

    Hmm, I wonder what kind of stuff they will be charging for?

    I wouldn't be surprised if they do it exactly the same as 2142 but you can pay to unlock things, instead of grinding for 100s of hours, maybe a pilot's/drivers license required to drive some of the better vehicles. Add in some custom avatars/weapon skins as well which are only available through p2p purchases and there's money making potential.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Dublo7 wrote: »
    Mr Cousins said EA expected 95% of people who played the game never to spend any money.

    Hmm, I wonder what kind of stuff they will be charging for?

    Bullets!

    I would wager that it'll mostly be customisation options for your character and different weapon models. If they've said they won't give paying players an advantage, I'm ready to believe that until proven otherwise.

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