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Problem with random BSOD - new desktop

TurnerTurner Registered User regular
edited October 2018 in Help / Advice Forum
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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I had a problem much like this years ago (EDIT: a few times, in truth =) ), and it was HEAT.

    The main hint to me is that it takes time (while consistently using the system) for it to cause the problem.

    It could be something else, but the first thing I'd try to check is what the temperature of the system and CPU is once you've been playing for half an hour or so. Just don't touch the heat sink on the CPU directly, in case it is overheating... it can get hot enough to cook human flesh on if it's not hooked up right or the fan's not going fast enough. EDIT: If you have a sensor on the motherboard or otherwise that you can use to check temperature, this is your best bet. Run a game that works your system (like the ones you've been playing), and watch that temperature. Like I said, it could be something else... but I had the exact same problem on three systems over the past decade or so, and all of them turned out to be overheating.

    EDIT 2: I just noticed you have the intel duo too. Are you using the heat sink that's packaged with the CPU? I think I mentioned it on a prior thread, but that stock heat sink/fan is horrible. The plastic push-knobs that are used to secure it don't convince me worth a damn that the thing is secure, and I've actually had one of these stock heat sinks literally FALL OFF of the CPU while it was running (resulting in the undertandable death of both the CPU due to overheating and my video card due to being the direct bearer of the heat sink's crash landing) because the pins are very difficult to get in properly, and even when they are in they're not terribly secure. After this incident happened, I switched to AMD... but the fact that you're using the intel (and thus possibly their questionable heat sink) makes me even more suspicious of the overheating possibility.

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  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The fact that it BSOD's after a little while immediatly sets warning bells for overheating to me. First step, check that all the fans are actually working. Since it happens in games, its likely that the GFX card fan is just not plugged in and the GFX card is slowly overheating. if you run it with the case off and they are all running then check the temperature over time. I believe speedfan works but there should be a few other ways.

    Again, if you just built it today its very likely that one of the fans just isnt plugged in.

    Copying down the error code on the BSOD and the googling should tell you exactly what i believe.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    What PSU are you using, and how many case fans do you have? We used to play counterstrike classic on an OC"ed rig back in the day and we had to take the side pannel off the computer and put a desk fan next to it to keep it cool.

    edit: 550w psu. I'd check the PSU to make sure it's working right, and get one of the free apps out there that runs all your fans at full force when gaming, and see if that helps.

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  • enderwiggin13enderwiggin13 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Sounds like everyone has heat covered. Might I suggest verifying your RAM timing is set correct for the RAM and the mobo? Might also want to verify the voltage.

    I was getting similar BSODs when I built my current system a few months ago. Fixing the timings fixed the BSODs.

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  • Locust76Locust76 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    If ram timing settings are an issue and you're worried about setting something wrong, wouldn't setting it for "automatic" be the best bet? I mean, the BIOS isn't going to automatically choose settings that are unstable.

    And your GPU temp is fine.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Get Memtest86, burn it as a bootable image to a CD, and then boot to it and let it run up till at least the
    5th test.

    If one of your RAM modules is bad, Windows will often bluescreen as soon as it tries to use the bad Memory areas, which sometimes doesn't occur until you've been using the system for a while (especially in game systems with lots of high level memory, 2GB+).

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Locust76 wrote: »
    If ram timing settings are an issue and you're worried about setting something wrong, wouldn't setting it for "automatic" be the best bet? I mean, the BIOS isn't going to automatically choose settings that are unstable.
    Not always. I have a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R motherboard, and RAM that's rated to do DDR2-1066 at 2.2V, or DDR2-800 at 1.8V. If I don't manually specify DDR2-800 / 1.8V, the motherboard will pick some seriously bizarre setups, including sometimes DDR2-1066 at 1.8V. It can actually change between boots, too, which was freaky. Oddly enough, my computer was nine kinds of fucked up when it tried to run the memory at 1066 with the voltage too low. Usually the Automatic settings are fine, and in my case I'm still automatic for the detailed timings (CAS, RAS, etc.), but sometimes you need to tell it what to do. Even when I manually specified 1066 with the correct voltage and timings, I still had stability issues, but running the memory at 800 has been rock-solid. Apparently this is a common issue with P35-based mobos and DDR2-1066 RAM running at 2.2V

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  • TurnerTurner Registered User regular
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