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How to not get angry?

jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hello, maybe some of you experience the same thing as me and can help with some type of breathing excercise or something similar. I am not looking for " go to a shrink ", because I can't afford it. I am looking for ways I can calm down on my own.

Whenever I get angry and frustrated at anything, whether it be something on the computer, some work I am having trouble with, or playing a game, I always resort to throwing something, or hitting something. Never people, just things in my room. I hate this, but I honestly don't know how to stop it. I can't seem to stop playing/working before I get to breaking point. This disgusting trait often leads to me breaking things, and I can't stand it. It is almost uncontrollable. I can't stop myself from throwing something after I have reached that point.

What I am looking for are ways to calm down. If anyone has had something similar before, what do you do? I can't live like this anymore.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    I do the same thing, hit something hard that won't break and you probably won't hit something again for a while.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I did actually, and bruised my fist something fierce. Which I wish I hadn't have done. It has deterred me from punching things...but not throwing stuff. :(

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Experience. I got mad due to this girl and hit a wall. Hit the stud. Luckily I had insurance because the surgery and whatnot totaled near 20 grand. I still have a wicked scar and can't fingerpick no more. Plus my pinky and ring knuckle half shattered and all those little bits are in my hand. One thing: If you do hit something keep a fierce grip.

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  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    You have to force yourself to recognize when you are reaching the limit and the only thing to stop yourself from getting angry is to get away from whatever is making you angry. If something you're doing is frustrating you, get up and go for a walk. You say you never stop until you reach the limit? You have to, and you can, you've only convinced yourself that you can't.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Falx wrote: »
    You have to force yourself to recognize when you are reaching the limit and the only thing to stop yourself from getting angry is to get away from whatever is making you angry. If something you're doing is frustrating you, get up and go for a walk. You say you never stop until you reach the limit? You have to, and you can, you've only convinced yourself that you can't.

    Thank you. I think you are right. I'll have to remove myself from what is making me angry.

    Experience. I got mad due to this girl and hit a wall. Hit the stud. Luckily I had insurance because the surgery and whatnot totaled near 20 grand. I still have a wicked scar and can't fingerpick no more. Plus my pinky and ring knuckle half shattered and all those little bits are in my hand. One thing: If you do hit something keep a fierce grip.

    Sorry to hear that, but thank you, it does help. I think a lot of the anger does come from my relationship. We have been fighting quite a bit lately unfortunately.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Maybe look into meditation, whenever I am getting frustrated and I can't just drop it like it's hot I try to regain some inner peace by just sitting down and focusing my mind on an abstract object, or I try to let go of pressure by doing push-ups or swinging around with my sword for a while.

    You know, trying to find some balance again, stop thinking about what is blocking your path for a while can help a lot.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    I do the same thing, hit something hard that won't break and you probably won't hit something again for a while.

    You do know that hands break, don't you?

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    you're going to angry at stuff, it's human nature. Just realize that remaining angry or letting anger control your actions is a waste of time and energy and nothing good will come of it.

    so instead of looking for what to do after you get angry to appease your angriness, just realize that lashing out doesn't do shit.

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  • RyeRye Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I used to be like this looooong ago. For me, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say it might also be for you, the anger is centered around control. You can't physically CONTROL a relationship. You may have trouble controlling your game or computer - you feel like you've LOST authority. It's not at all a coincidence that this behavior is more common in males.

    The way I got over it was to seriously re-evaluate how I felt about things and simply relinquish control. This game beat me... so what. That's the game's job. If you're having girl problems, just remember to listen and be more passive in dealing with them (I.E. don't always attempt to "own" the situation or control it).

    If your computer is acting up, remember that it only does what it's programmed to do, and never to spite you. Obviously, the only people who know EXACTLY what's going on under the hood are hardware technicians and the good folks at Microsoft/Mac/Linux HQ. So, again you have to give up on the idea that you can control your computer.


    Also, meditation works wonders, but not at the point of impact. You may find it nearly impossible to meditate correctly right before exploding or throwing something. You need to walk away from the situation and cool down a bit first. But you DO have to deal with the built up stress in some way.

    The idea behind good meditation is to think about NOTHING, least of all, the things that make you mad. So wait until the bad things have started to subside, then attempt to sit down somewhere and simply focus on breathing in through your nose and out through your mouth and think about nothing. If you try to meditate right before exploding, you'll end up brooding and boiling about the bad things that just happened and not reap any of the benefits of meditation.


    If none of this works, think about the money you're wasting on all the shit you break. That was the tipping point for me :P

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Breathe!


    I know it's cliche but breathe!


    I deal with frustration a lot in the line of work, mostly focused on me, but sometimes it's at other people, and the first thing I always do when I start to feel angry is take a deep breath. And a good deep breath, starting from the diaphragm and filling up entirely, then exhaling fully. It gives you a nice break from the world for a bit, and it's really, really effective.

    Now, I'm pretty good at dealing with anger personally, and I've never gotten mad enough to hit things since maybe I was 6 or something, so I don't have the same experience, but breathing is really, really useful, and having proper deep breathing will help in many ways.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Falx wrote: »
    You have to force yourself to recognize when you are reaching the limit and the only thing to stop yourself from getting angry is to get away from whatever is making you angry. If something you're doing is frustrating you, get up and go for a walk. You say you never stop until you reach the limit? You have to, and you can, you've only convinced yourself that you can't.

    Thank you. I think you are right. I'll have to remove myself from what is making me angry.
    It's probably the best thing you can do outside of professional help. I have the same issues with my anger leading to a broken keyboard and mouse, some holes in a wall where I threw my keys, and a door half broken off the hinges.

    Do you have a slow build up to your outburts? I know when playing a game for me it'd start with some cursing then I'd start banging the mouse and it would keep escalating. I know it isn't always an option but whenever I start to do that now I take it as a sign to immediately stop what I'm doing.

    The advice I have in regards to the stuff outside your control is to just accept it if there's nothing you can do. This is much harder but I've found it gets easier each time.

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  • Cynic JesterCynic Jester Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Get something to occupy your hands. I work in tech support. I deal with people. Yes, those kind of people. You know the ones. If I didn't have something to take my mind off things, I'd be throwing my monitor out the window daily(provided I had a window).

    Playdough is awesome for this. I believe a company released something that acts like it but without the sticky sticky. You can squeeze it, throw it, whatever really. Helps get my tension down.

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  • Sword_of_LightSword_of_Light Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The men and women of my family are infamously bad tempered. I've hit walls, I'm still a yeller, and I used to cuss up a blue streak. I remember back in the service I was splicing a cable, spliced my thumb instead - and there just a torrent of the most foul language comming out of my mouth; I'm holding my thumb, blood is pouring all over the deck, and I'm literally cursing like a sailor.

    Whats tempered my temper is age, mostly. There are tricks I use, however, like stepping away from the problem or I've learned its just good for me to shut the hell up and let the anger disipate.
    One of the most important factors in controlling my temper however is the realization that I'm responsible for my actions, that yes, I can controll my temper.

    Also, after an outburst, if its a little thing, dont dig your heels in, be prepared to apologize. You dont always have to, but if your anger is irrational or disproportionat, an appology is a very good bet - I snapped at my son a little while back, and he said 'Daddy, you dont have to yell.' and I looked at him and though 'yeah, ok, that was a bit extreme.' and so I told him he was right, appologized and gave him a kiss on the head, and we were ok.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Okay, I'm going to sound all new-agey for a minute but whatever this worked. The anger can be kinda drained if you apply the energy constructively. The anger part will usually turn into something else long before the energy runs out, actually. If you're all worked up yeah you can just stop and calm yourself down with practice and discipline but it's much easier if you can commit and expend the energy somehow. I like attacking lap-records in GT4, that's something I can spend as much time on as it takes because you can just keep going and going until you're done. Maybe going running or cycling would be more your speed, maybe rocking out on the guitar.

    Music helps, too. Music has a very powerful influence on mood if you pick it right. I would say avoid depressing music because while it's really easy to turn anger into moping that's not really a positive change in mood so much as a lateral-shift. Daft Punk though, :^:

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I throw on Jonathan Coulton when frustrated with traffic. Cause then it's like being trapped in a room, but with Jonathan Coulton.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ready for this?

    Meditation. Meditate every now and then, maybe try to when you are angry. It is important for you to realize why you are getting so angry before you can make change.

    Meditation can provide clarity and insight about yourself. Sample conversation to yourself:


    Why am I angry?

    Because I got killed in my computer game.

    Why am I angry about it?

    Because I have to start over.

    Why am I angry about that?

    ...because it means I'm not good enough.


    Seriously. Give it a shot. Understand yourself. I guarantee your are afraid of something.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    If you're finding yourself angry for no reason, like deep-huffing and just pissed off, there could be a medical issue that needs to be addressed.

    I don't know all the medical data behind it, but my father used to be Mr. Angry here. Not to the point of abuse but he'd get mad just because I'd walk near the garage or just simply while driving. We found out he had diabetes, a weak form of it at least in the sense that it is controllable, and he hasn't had anger fits since he started taking medication.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Honestly, I just rationalize with myself. I used to be like you until I threw a glass one day and shattered it. This was probably some 12 years ago.

    After I did that (it was outside but I was by myself) I thought to myself, "If someone saw that I would be very embarassed."
    Then I thought about the kind of people who solve their problems by hitting and throwing things. The majority of these people are either:
    A) Abusive people or
    B) Children

    I've deduced that I am neither of those. Since rationalizing with myself I've come to the realization that if I just walk away from the source of my anger I will be fine in about half an hour.

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I used to have a manager in high school that told me the reason he was always so calm was because he didn't see the point in getting angry. It sounds very simple, and in retrospect somewhat idiotic, but it's absolutely true. When the dinner rush came (I worked at a pizza place), most of us were running around sweating, but he just calmly accepted the increased workload and didn't let things get to him. It wasn't until I tried it that I realized he was right.

    The point is, use stress as a motivation, and not as something that will make you upset.

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  • Asamof the HorribleAsamof the Horrible Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I used to have all those same anger problems too, throwing controllers, breaking shit all the time, and all for such little dumb reasons too. I guess after breaking so many things that I later regretted, I came to realize that it's just not worth the trouble. Not to mention that when I do vent my anger by smashing, it makes me feel twice as bad then I did before, especially in shoulders and neck

    The worst thing you can do is vent your anger by physically beating on something like a pillow or punching bag, just go with deep breathing and counting from 10 to 1 backwards, slowly.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    And one thing I forgot to mention: Catch the anger early.

    Don't let it build up to the point where you want to smash something. If something gets under your skin, as soon as you start feeling anger, take a deep breath.

    And if you're still getting angry, get out of the situation.

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  • TalTal Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I don't know that I've ever been at the point of throwing things, but I did notice that when I started exercising regularly certain things that would have bothered me before no longer did. I think it's like what ViolentChemistry said. Constructive energy use. Frustrated about work / school / games / girls? Lots of pent up energy? Go run some sprints or lift some weights. You'll come back feeling better about yourself in addition to having some time to meditate on what was bothering you.

    Maybe it's just be, but I do notice that when I stop exercising often enough I become slightly more irritable.

    Also, as was mentioned it's about realizing that a lot of the shit we worry and stress about daily means jack and shit in the long run. Walking over to the garbage can in the kitchen and realizing your roommate didn't replace the bag isn't worth getting upset over. It's a 15 second problem.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I have a short fuse with some things, here is my method-

    When something makes me mad, before I fully react I stop. think about what it really is that I am being mad at. And then that is usually enough to make me realize that it is not worth getting mad at.

    Example: Some guy rear-ends your car.

    Well. I get out of hte car super fast and mad. But then I think. you know what? His insurance is going to ahve to pay for this. Oh well.

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  • Limp mooseLimp moose Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh man do i have the answer for this one. I grew up doing the same thing then someone taught me this sure fire trick.

    The minute you are about to launch something or take a swing think
    STOP

    COUNT to 10

    DEEP BREATH

    End.

    You wont feel like throwing it after that in fact you wont really be super mad anymore. Then think how silly it is that you are stomping mad about a video game or a girl or any other dumb thing

    To recap the key is

    STOP!

    COUNT 10

    Breath (deep lung breath here)

    If you follow that advice your days of throwing / hitting things is over. If not well buy some good insurance.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Limp moose wrote: »
    Oh man do i have the answer for this one. I grew up doing the same thing then someone taught me this sure fire trick.

    The minute you are about to launch something or take a swing think
    STOP

    COUNT to 10

    DEEP BREATH

    End.

    You wont feel like throwing it after that in fact you wont really be super mad anymore. Then think how silly it is that you are stomping mad about a video game or a girl or any other dumb thing

    To recap the key is

    STOP!

    COUNT 10

    Breath (deep lung breath here)

    If you follow that advice your days of throwing / hitting things is over. If not well buy some good insurance.

    I disagree. Don't wait until you're about to pop.

    Once you're feeling angry, then stop, breathe, count to ten if it helps. I know that if I'm having a discussion and I feel myself getting more frustrated at all, I will take a breath and step back right then. Best to head it off while you're not in a towering rage.

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  • ChildrenChildren Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I used to feel like that a lot before I started doing kickboxing. Being able to punch people in the head as a hobby chills you out quite a bit. Go join a boxing gym or something, cheaper than a therapist, and it gets your ass in shape.

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  • KingthlayerKingthlayer Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    When you get really mad, raise your hands into the air, look up, and shout "Serenity now!" at the top of your lungs.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    If you find yourself getting hitting-things/throwing-things angry on a regular basis, especially if you recognize (later, in a state of calmness) that your reactions were irrational, then I'd suggest that you've got something going on that's more deeply-seeded. Walking away is a good temporary solution. Meditation is somewhat better, but what you may need for real progress is some deep introspection. A good therapist will facilitate introspection - understanding yourself and your reactions better. However, you don't need a therapist to start exploring your feelings.

    And exploring your feelings is a very good start. You need to be honest with yourself and try to look at the whole picture of your life, including your past, and see if you can gain any insights as to the causes of this anger. Then, start exploring and working on those root causes. As others have posted: know thyself.

    Stoicism works for me. I find that the better I understand a bad situation, the less frustrated or angry I get about it. I either find that 1) there's nothing that I can do about it, or 2) there is something I can do. Frustration cedes to resignation or action, respectively. This doesn't work for everybody.

    There could, of course, be a physical component. A poignant past experience is when I took one dose of a prescription anti-anxiety medication during a particularly rough period. It didn't help, and when it wore off I had about six contiguous hours of being furious at everything. Fortunately, I rationally knew that my anger was not real and it passed, but this was a big eye opener that chemical changes can have unexpected and very real emotional consequences. If this is the case, then a visit to a doctor may help with this aspect of things.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Thank you for all the replies. I am taking it all in. I DO think a lot of it has to do with control, and removing myself from the situation does work, as does the breathing. For example: I expected people over at 11, so I had to take my girlfriend to the trainstation before that, because she had many bags, and couldn't carry them on her own ( I couldn't even carry them on my own). She had a whinge about it and wouldn't let me take her to the train station and carry some bags, and I found myself getting really angry, because it was out of my control. I walked downstairs, and breathed in and out, until the anger subsided.

    I came back, and explained that I only wanted to help, and it worked. I helped her, and wasn't angry anymore. :)

    That's just one example. I understand I COULD see a therapist about this problem, but I feel I should try and deal with it myself first.

    I am most worried about scaring my girlfriend, I don't want her to think I'm a violent person.

    Thanks for the replies guys :) I appreciate it.

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  • Sword_of_LightSword_of_Light Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    When you get really mad, raise your hands into the air, look up, and shout "Serenity now!" at the top of your lungs.

    We tried that. The fuckers still didnt bring back Firefly.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    i have a job where I have to troubleshoot equipment in the middle of nowhere. Before I got this job, I was prone to jags of real anger. I've learned from this job, though, that anger is a luxury. Anger doesn't change or fix anything, and it can waste your time and get you killed/stranded/fired/lost. I learned the hard way not to be angry so much when I got in surroundings where no matter how angry I got or how much I shut down, no one would rescue me but me, and anger just made it take longer.

    It sounds like you're a snapper, like you snap all at once, one more thing happens and all the sudden you're just to angry.

    Work on identifying and dealing with stressors early so you don't get a buildup that "suddenly" pushes you over the edge.

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  • SkySky Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    For myself, I am a bit peeved with what happened to a friend of mine.

    This guy I knew in high school, Leon, I had not had contact with since, about 12 years ago now.

    Through my reunion website, I learned he died in jail on January 25th. A day later, I learned he was awaiting release after evidence was found exonerating him. He suffered an asthma attack, and there is suspicion aid was not rushed to help him.

    I am going to write a letter of condolence to his family.

    An angry letter to the jail.

    An angry letter to the police.

    An angry letter to the state corrections department headquarters.

    And a letter to the governor of California, explaining what happened.

    My friend Leon is either black or half black, but I suspect it was prison over-crowding why he died.

    I am angry, but going to channel it into raising awareness, and seeing if I can make his death important, since it was so ....

    Well, I think you guys can see what I am getting at.

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  • lesserbeinglesserbeing Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Also, to augment what sky said, I recommend writing. Seriously, it sounds cliche, but sitting down like a poet for awhile and just trying to describe how it feels by using written reason is incredibly calming. It seems to slow down the thoughts and since you are trying to not keep repeating yourself it moves you beyond the circular lines of thought that generally create anger.

    Also it's important to start trying to figure out what the hell keeps causing these outbursts. Calming yourself down is simply addressing the symptoms of a bigger thing. Get some comfort foods or weights since the hit of positive reinforcement from sweets or exercise is very helpful to keeping the mind steady.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2008
    I write to organize my thoughts all the time, both good and bad, it really helps you analyze what you're thinking and get it out to a place where it can become coherent and you can understand it. and you can vent much less violently. If you need some physical stimulation I suggest a notebook and handwriting so you can go nuts and scribble if you need to.

    I also clean or organize something when I get really anxious or stressed out. It helps me feel like Im doing something productive, I have control over my surroundings again, and then I have a clean environment to think in. Also if you're doing it to relive stress it becomes less of a chore and more of a calm time to think to yourself, or listen to some music and sweep the floors to get some energy out. This could be a double edge sword, you cant get angry if things get messy and out of control, you just have to enjoy the chance to clean when you have it.

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  • MachiavellumMachiavellum Registered User new member
    edited February 2008
    I think the title of this thread asks for something slightly different than the answers you've been getting. Learning how to calm down when it's all too much is very important and the suggestions here I think are very helpful. But if you want to not get angry in the first place, that's going to require something different.

    Some people fly off the handle very easily, while others are unfazed by pretty much anything. Whatever the difference may be, unless you believe it's 100% nature, 0% nurture, you can learn a lot from observing the latter group, or even just asking them. Personally, I can't recall the last time I was anything more than slightly irked, and while I've never really done any deep soul-searching to try and suss out why that is, I can hazard some guesses off the top of my head, as I'm sure others reading this can.

    1) I realize that anger is only going to hinder my dealing with the trigger. If it's a video game, playing pissed off will just get you killed some more - if it's a relationship, being the angry yelling one is only going to have some of a million different negative effects on the other party.

    2) I take into account a certain amount of "shit happens" happening. Life is so random and rarely as fair as we'd like, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Knowing that, it follows logically that there's no sense in getting mad about it.

    3) I genuinely dislike anger. It's a really unattractive thing unless you're a berserker or something, it doesn't feel nice, it makes situations awkward, and it's not a quality you look for in others. They don't look for it in you, either.

    So that's the work of a couple minutes. Obviously you can't logic yourself a calmer person, but if these kinds of arguments make sense and you can internalize them, I'd be surprised if you don't see a difference after some time. Hope this helps.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Kinda like the meditation post on the first page, and maybe a bit too philosophical to work in the heat of the moment, but I believe that virtually all anger is based on some sort of fear...either fear of something that might happen or something that did happen (cue Yoda fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to breaking your fist on a freaking concrete block speech). This is important because I think it's infinitely easier to address a fear than an anger, and if you can take care of the fear the anger becomes unimportant.

    Example: Angry because you're stuck in traffic. Why? Because you might be late (the fear). Is being 10-15 minutes late important for whatever it is you're doing? Maybe. Is there something you can skip over or do later to make up the time? Maybe not. Does anyone really give a shit if you're 10 minutes late? Probably not. Etc. Odds are you can somehow figure out that being late isn't actually something to be so worried about and you don't need to get angry over it.

    But personally I'm almost impossible to piss off to start with so ymmv.

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