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The Intel Skulltrail Platform (or, Crysis at 100 Frames Per Second, Kinda)

VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
What do you get when you cross ridiculously spendthrift, elitist PC enthusiasts and a polarized gaming market with a highly competitive microprocessor industry?

tadaaa!
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HardOCP wrote:
By Intel’s definition Skulltrail includes the D5400XS motherboard and two QX9775 LGA771 processors. The rest is up to the buyer. In reality it is essentially a dual processor quad core system targeted toward the ultra high end PC enthusiast. This includes gamers and professionals needing 8 cores for either multi-tasking or higher end applications that can leverage the performance offered by the platform. It is expensive, it is huge, and the requirements for the overall platform are staggering.

HardOCP test runs a system with eight cores at 3.2 GHz, a pair of 8800GTX's, 4 gigs of ram and a one-effing-kilowatt power supply. It actually draws nearly six hundred watts under load, and it runs Crysis at 107 frames per second. It might cost you an embarrassing six grand, but who needs food or rent when you can boast an octo-core desktop that's worth three times the per-capita GDP of Zimbabwe.

Bask, peasant.

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    AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Holy hell.

    Bet that thing generates a nice electric bill.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Holy hell.

    Bet that thing generates a nice electric bill.

    on the plus side, it'll also double as a small space heater, so your gas bill will go down :lol:

    Doesnt' mean I don't want it though.

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    corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Of course, joke is on the buyer, because their brand new LCD monitor only refreshes at 60hz...

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    VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    So as not to be deceptive I should point out that Crysis was running with all settings on low in that benchmark just to test out its CPU dependence. With the bells and whistles on it runs at about thirty frames per second.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Veegeezee wrote: »
    So as not to be deceptive I should point out that Crysis was running with all settings on low in that benchmark just to test out its CPU dependence. With the bells and whistles on it runs at about thirty frames per second.

    That's about what the "regular" high end quads are getting. Anyway, another crazy thing about this board is that it supports both SLi and Crossfire

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    VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, it turns out that at present it isn't actually all that special next to a quad-core, gaming wise. It even gets slightly outperformed in a couple tests by the quad system they benchmark it against. That'll probably be the way it is for awhile considering where the mainstream is now.

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Spoit wrote: »
    That's about what the "regular" high end quads are getting. Anyway, another crazy thing about this board is that it supports both SLi and Crossfire

    There is no technical reason why any board with multiple PCI-E x16 slots should not do this. I guess Intel just finally worked out the licensing angle.

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    DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    really misleading OP

    It's basically a useless platform except for rendering - the only area where any increase of worth (over a single quad core system) is noted

    it's a stupid hunk of crap

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    really misleading OP

    It's basically a useless platform except for rendering - the only area where any increase of worth (over a single quad core system) is noted

    it's a stupid hunk of crap

    Not really. it's actualy a system that will get better with age, instead of worse. as more apps/games are written to take advantage of more and more threads, this system will only get faster.

    Yes, right now it's not much better than a standard dual/quad core system, but give it a year.

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    jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    That is pretty damn big for a north bridge fan. It looks like it is cooling other things as well, but damn!

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    really misleading OP

    It's basically a useless platform except for rendering - the only area where any increase of worth (over a single quad core system) is noted

    it's a stupid hunk of crap

    Not really. it's actualy a system that will get better with age, instead of worse. as more apps/games are written to take advantage of more and more threads, this system will only get faster.

    Yes, right now it's not much better than a standard dual/quad core system, but give it a year.

    Dude, it's just like AMD 4x4. By the time anything is actually taking advantage of it, you'd be able to buy a system that's just as powerful for a quarter of the price.

    And for god's sake why did they make it use FB-DIMMs? Fucking hell, Intel, FB-DIMM is the worst shit since Rambus.

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    DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    really misleading OP

    It's basically a useless platform except for rendering - the only area where any increase of worth (over a single quad core system) is noted

    it's a stupid hunk of crap

    Not really. it's actualy a system that will get better with age, instead of worse. as more apps/games are written to take advantage of more and more threads, this system will only get faster.

    Yes, right now it's not much better than a standard dual/quad core system, but give it a year.

    It's already been said, but no, you're wrong.

    With age it'll just get closer to death - which is less than a year out at this point - when octo core processors are released.

    Then this thing will be obsolete. There will never be a time when it "shines" - at least for gamers

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    God fuck are Yorkfields expensive. Those two QX9775s on that board? One of them cost more than my entire goddamned system when I built it. I was doing some casual price hunting looking at some of Intel's desktop quads, entertaining the idea of maybe dropping a quad in my machine. The only one within reasonable price is still the old Q6600. Even a small bump to the also-old Q6700 and the price gets stupid. Screw those Quad Extremes, what the hell. AMD's offerings looks mighty tempting, in comparison.

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    VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Even just that motherboard is worth more than my current system.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    That looks like I should take it to my mechanic when it breaks and not the computer store

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    ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    That looks like I should take it to my mechanic when it breaks and not the computer store

    mechanic? More like evil genius laboratory. FBDIMM's?

    Workings of a madman.

    There really isn't any reason for most consumers to need this board. It seems like a crossbreed of a server board with an enthusiast board. Neat? ya. sure. Out of my price range? most certainly. Especially since driving that high of resolution would need a special monitor in the first place.

    This sob(son of a board) better ship with an X48 chipset instead though.

    *Edit*
    Oh and running Supreme commander in 2560X1600 with 8xAA is fucking insane.

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    KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    What's better than 2 cores?


    FOUR CORES!


    but wait, I have a ridiculous amount of money left over!

    EIGHT CORES!

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Looks like it could be a hovercraft. :P

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Zxerol wrote: »
    God fuck are Yorkfields expensive. Those two QX9775s on that board? One of them cost more than my entire goddamned system when I built it. I was doing some casual price hunting looking at some of Intel's desktop quads, entertaining the idea of maybe dropping a quad in my machine. The only one within reasonable price is still the old Q6600. Even a small bump to the also-old Q6700 and the price gets stupid. Screw those Quad Extremes, what the hell. AMD's offerings looks mighty tempting, in comparison.

    Which is, of course, exactly how AMD made headway against the Pentium 4 back in the day. Once we start to see some stuff really take advantage of four cores, I'm gonna be sold on a Phenom. Sure, it's not quite as good, but it's cheap.

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    Mustachio JonesMustachio Jones jerseyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    And here I thought the world was steering away from really, really big computer technology.

    My sympathy for the fucktards that lug it to LAN parties.

    "Here's $40 for running my machine at your house for two days. If it costs anymore, let me know."

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    And here I thought the world was steering away from really, really big computer technology.

    My sympathy for the fucktards that lug it to LAN parties.

    "Here's $40 for running my machine at your house for two days. If it costs anymore, let me know."

    It's the Ferarri Enzo of computers. It's absurdly expensive, ridiculously impractical, stupidly inefficient, and they couldn't sell more than 300 or so worldwide if they tried, which they won't.

    But hey, it's got its niche, I suppose.

    I just want to see this "SLI and Crossfire both, without hacked drivers" stuff trickle down to normal people systems.

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    victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    That's about what the "regular" high end quads are getting. Anyway, another crazy thing about this board is that it supports both SLi and Crossfire

    There is no technical reason why any board with multiple PCI-E x16 slots should not do this. I guess Intel just finally worked out the licensing angle.

    Well, not really. It's only because there's an nForce Northbridge on it.

    nVidia is still playing the [Stewie]"It's mine, all mine!"[/Stewie] card and not letting anyone outside of their nForce license have a whack at SLi.

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    victor_c26 wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    That's about what the "regular" high end quads are getting. Anyway, another crazy thing about this board is that it supports both SLi and Crossfire

    There is no technical reason why any board with multiple PCI-E x16 slots should not do this. I guess Intel just finally worked out the licensing angle.

    Well, not really. It's only because there's an nForce Northbridge on it.

    nVidia is still playing the [Stewie]"It's mine, all mine!"[/Stewie] card and not letting anyone outside of their nForce license have a whack at SLi.

    Unless you disable what I understand to be essentially a "if (MotherboardChipset == nForce)" check in their driver, that is. Of course, post a set of hacked drivers on a website and nVidia's squad of trained attack lawyers will break into your house and shove your graphics cards up your ass.

    Ugh. God damn the industry sickens me sometimes.

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    victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, it's well known that other chipsets can do SLi. I think even Intel designed the X38 chipset with the intention nVidia would eventually give Intel the go ahead to add SLi to it's feature set.

    Supposedly, nVidia recently said that in reality there is some special sauce that's actually implemented into the nForce chipset that lets SLi do it's thing (Something about timings and latency implementations). But mostly everyone agrees that's just market speak covering the fact that nVidia's major selling point is SLi.

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    waterloggedwaterlogged Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    victor_c26 wrote: »
    Yeah, it's well known that other chipsets can do SLi. I think even Intel designed the X38 chipset with the intention nVidia would eventually give Intel the go ahead to add SLi to it's feature set.

    Supposedly, nVidia recently said that in reality there is some special sauce that's actually implemented into the nForce chipset that lets SLi do it's thing (Something about timings and latency implementations). But mostly everyone agrees that's just market speak covering the fact that nVidia's major selling point is SLi.

    There is no special sauce reason they can't do it. PCI-E can do multiple GPU's on it's own. What nivdia did is force the driver to only allow it over nforce chipsets. This can be changed at any point, but given how crappy nforce 680i is compared to intels offerings it would kill their mobo sales completely.

    Also nvidia has sued people that tried to push hacked drivers, you can currently run geforce 7 SLI over a 975x platfrom, but no driver updates.

    Intel got around this with skulltrail by using two nvidia MCP's, however it can't do tripple/quad SLI, and since it's a 5400 chipset with FB-DIMM's, it get's it's ass handed to it in gaming by conventional 680i/780i SLI gaming boxes.
    That's about what the "regular" high end quads are getting. Anyway, another crazy thing about this board is that it supports both SLi and Crossfire

    Because ATi aren't asshats and realize that any crossfire config sold is an extra card. They even sanctioned asus/hp to cook up an nforce BIOS to run crossfire on the blackbird.
    Not really. it's actualy a system that will get better with age, instead of worse. as more apps/games are written to take advantage of more and more threads, this system will only get faster.

    Yes, right now it's not much better than a standard dual/quad core system, but give it a year.

    Not really. If I wanted to be stuck with a dual GPU workstation with FB-DIMMS, well guess what! They already make it! Nothing has been stopping you from running SLI on a workstation board with xeons all this time.

    The selling point of this was 1. overclocking (as we've seen it's not up to par GG FB-DIMMS and NB), and 2. quad SLI (won't happen nvidia has locked it out of the MCP's used on it).

    So there goes the only things that make it "better" then competing 5400 boards. And it lacks PCI-X, integrated SCSI or SAS. Now really, if you are going to spend that kind of cash on a board + CPU + GPU you aren't going to skimp on your HDD configuration.
    Those two QX9775s on that board? One of them cost more than my entire goddamned system when I built it.

    You're kinda stuck with them here. Having owned dual xeon boards OC'ing is a pain in the ass, you're stuck with BSEL mods and other suck idiocy.

    On this board, even though it supports OC FB-DIMM kills that, so you need the unlocked MP that only comes with EE chips.

    The only real people I've seen interested in this are LN2 oc'ers that play the game "break a benchmark"

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Actually, the review said quad SLI (as in two dual-GPU cards) would work. It's triple-SLI (three separate cards) that won't.

    However, judging from past SLI performance, you don't see any benefit whatsoever past the second card anyway, so who gives a fuck?

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    VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    you don't see any benefit whatsoever past the second card

    sure you do

    but not across the board, and not nearly enough to justify the expense

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