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piLpiL Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Artist's Corner
To celebrate, I've decided to make a dump thread with my stuff. I've just recently started to branch into color in traditional mediums, and I find that I have trouble describing the form. I will keep practicing, but thoughts are appreciated.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310061_s.jpg
This is a self portrait done in graphite on drawing paper. It looks so retarded and wrong that I got totally pissed off and made another...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310053_s.jpg
Pastel on Drawing Paper, done from a photo in a magazine.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310057_s.jpg
Pastel on Drawing Paper, done from a life study.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310063_s.jpg
Charcoal on Drawing Paper. Another life study--I like this one.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310069_s.jpg[
Charcoal on that brown paper they make paper bags from. Life Study.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310073_s.jpg
Ditto.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310074_s.jpg
Charcoal on Drawing Paper

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310079_s.jpg
Pastel on paper bag paper. I really tried to turn the model into a disgusting troll. Actually I didn't try, but I succeeded anyway. This one filled me with incompetent rage

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310080_s.jpg
Charcoal on Drawing Paper. This is Self Portrait 2. We're critiquing them tomorrow--more incompetent rage, so there's another one coming.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310082_s.jpg
Charcoal on Drawing Paper. Done from life, doesn't look very much like her.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P1310086_s.jpg
Charcoal on Drawing Paper. Quicker and done from life. Also doesn't look very much like her.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/P2040051_s.jpg
Pastels on Charcoal Paper (I didn't know such a thing existed!). I like this one better. I did this one from a photo so I couldn't be retarded and move. It feels like cheating.
More to come, I might scan some pages from my sketchbook. Thanks for looking.

Edit: Through out the thread, I've been spoiling things once there's a new post in order to prevent people from having to scroll three miles down. Now I'm also killing the image tags and making images links so that it's not so harsh on people's modems either when I assume they don't care so much about the older stuff any more.

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  • freekfreek Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Look into some anatomy lessons. Also, try not to draw what you think you see, but what you actually see. That makes little sense, but try to think of each model as just an object on a table. If you think, "This is a leg, I have to draw a leg," you'll keep ending up with a poor drawing.
    Another tip is to take your time with each stroke. Use the side of the charcoal if you can.

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  • MaximasXXZMaximasXXZ Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Hey at least you're going about learning the right way. Have you tried "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"? It's a great course-book that you would probably learn a lot from. In any case, keep up the life drawings and gestures. In my personal opinion, doing quick gesture drawings (from life) with a pen is one of the best ways to learn how to draw the human form. Be quick with your arm (your whole arm), and don't erase (which is why I suggest a pen). This will help you build confidence in your drawings and will teach you good habits away from the sketchy, shaky lines so common with amateur sketches. :^:

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I've gone through some of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain before I got tangled up in all kinds of non-art things and had to take it back to the library. I never really understood how to use that book, because it felt like I should be doing everything more than once, but I basically never knew when to move on. I guess the right answer is to never move on, and to keep going back and doing things.

    Anyway, thank you for the comment! I've gotten to feel really comfortable with a pen I think. I still mess up and hate myself because I can't erase it, or let a bit of the ink form a droplet that I smear all over the thing, but I've learned to get a variety of tones out of it. Most the sketches, except the Blade Runner and the figures, are pencil with the levels adjusted darker, but I do a lot of pen stuff too. I usually just trash it though, because even if I do something that doesn't fill me with rage, something else on the page will :P

    And when I do figures later today, I think I'll focus on using my arm a bit more. Thanks!

    Edit: Did some posemaniacs sketches before I head out today. Man wasn't made to draw in thirty seconds!

    Edit again: Really small sketches I did yesterday standing around and waiting for Bill Clinton to show up.
    052003.jpg

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Must...Keep...with...this

    It's so crappy out here, I can barely stand it outside.

    Anyway, more gestures:
    Also, I spent a few hours today trying to do some character art. It didn't yield any happy results, but I do think I made some progress--the following are in the order I did them.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/060303.jpg
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/060304.jpg
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/060305.jpg


    Oh, and the other day, I did a vector design for the local community theatre.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/Macbella6.png
    It was supposed to be a fusion of a cauldron and a pumpkin--hopefully it looks enough like that. They're putting on Cinderella and Macbeth, and while normally I would be in it this summer, I'm not going to be here when they actually put on the plays, so this is me trying to contribute without actually being in them. Anyway, it looks like bad 90s clip art, but I learned a lot about the pen tool in the process :P

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  • MertzyMertzy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    To be honest, I wasn't sure that was a cauldron until you said so, nor a pumpkin for that matter. While it is a hybrid object, some of the features don't separate themselves from the concept as a whole, and I think that's where my confusion lies. Once I'm told what it is, it's almost obvious, so I think this is a sign that it's only off a little bit.

    I'm thinking the cauldron is the biggest issue due to the large amount of black.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Mertzy wrote: »
    To be honest, I wasn't sure that was a cauldron until you said so, nor a pumpkin for that matter. While it is a hybrid object, some of the features don't separate themselves from the concept as a whole, and I think that's where my confusion lies. Once I'm told what it is, it's almost obvious, so I think this is a sign that it's only off a little bit.

    I'm thinking the cauldron is the biggest issue due to the large amount of black.

    I actually wanted to see that response, which is why I hid what it was in the spoiler tags, thanks for letting me know! My original was actually just the outline of the cauldron, and the solid orange wasn't there. They had mentioned wanting some color splashes, so I had a few blocks of orange (but not a fill) over the pumpkin half and the flames, and a couple of blocks of bluish grey under the cauldron side, but it looked ugly too. Even more 90s. I actually submitted a bunch of different ones, but posted the one that got picked. It was pretty far from the one I would have picked.

    Edit: This isn't the one I described, but I preferred it. Does the difference in color help?

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  • jibjibjibjib Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    you have the same problem I used to; you make your noses too long.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    THe pumpkin have took me a minute, but I got the cauldron right away. There's something a little off with the shape of the left pumpkin segment - the other two look right, but the one near the center disrupts the shape somehow.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    jibjib wrote: »
    you have the same problem I used to; you make your noses too long.

    Hah, I didn't notice it until you said it, but you're totally right. I guess that's why that cheekbone in the last one looks like I'm trying to cover a tarmac. I'll try to keep an eye on that and do a few from studies to emphasize that measurement.
    KalTorak wrote: »
    THe pumpkin have took me a minute, but I got the cauldron right away. There's something a little off with the shape of the left pumpkin segment - the other two look right, but the one near the center disrupts the shape somehow.

    I agree. I think I made it too long in comparison to the other segments, and that's certainly harming the illusion. Thanks.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008

    I did a few sketches today too, but its too late to put them up right now. i just wanted to make sure I put something up too. Eyes too low or eyebrows too high. Also, dude is orange. And that mouth :|

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I stole this picture from another thread.

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  • jibjibjibjib Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    piL wrote: »
    I stole this picture from another thread.

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    Much better. The form is much more clear, and the color looks consistent. What I mean by this is that the shadows actually look like shadows and not just weird color changes

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I disappeared for a couple of hours with some oil pastels and a magazine. I returned with this: (9"x12")

    I plan on hitting this one back up tomorrow, although we'll see if I still feel that way tomorrow. I flipped it and realized it looked perfectly find only in my head.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    So, I ended up buying a new pocket sketchpad since I'm planning on going on vacation, and I figure I better start fresh. I also got two other sketchbooks with a few used pages that I hope to fill up while I'm gone. I decided I had better break in the new sketchbook--I wrote too much in my old one, and here I don't plan on having a page without a picture. This one isn't a moleskin, but it takes to water better I think, though the page stock is a little more fragile.

    Anyway, these are all watercolors (some with pen), and are tiny (about 3 1/2 x 5 1/2 inches). Also, my scanner did not like scanning them--had to play with levels a lot.

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Any one that can use watercolour is a friend of mine.

    Also: snakes. :^:

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'm trying to get a handle on the watercolours, but it's not coming as nice as I would like it. I got some Watercolor Pencils, and an cheap little $7 watercolor set. I like it because it's super convenient--I can carry it around in my backpack no problem. One time, I brought watercolors to a pizza place where some friends and I play trivia every so often. I don't do it enough though.

    And yeah, the original plan was to do a bunch of animal illustrations, like naturalists and what not, but we'll see. I'd actually like to buy a 8x10 sketchbook and do that and only that. Maybe next time I go on vacation, get a list of common animals there, and do illustrations from reference.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Watercolor is an insanely advanced medium to paint with. I understand it's convenience but you may want to check out some gouche. It is much more forgiving, and still water based so it is fairly portable. All the old Disney guys used to use gouche for backgrounds and color studies.

    You can paint with it like watercolor, very thing and transparent. But you can also go opaque on top of that. And one of the greatest advantages of gouche is the ability to reactivate the paint once it is down. That means that two years later you can pick up an old gouche painting, get some water on your brush and start moving around the paint that is already down again.

    Anyways, just a thought.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm sorry I waited so long to reply cake, I just kind of ended up putting it off until I went on vacation, and then when I got back, it felt like such a long time (five weeks later) that I sort of kind of forgot about the thread. Anyway, I guess I'm not dead yet.

    As far as the gouche goes, I would like to try it out, but I'm still kind of sold on water colors and ink specifically because they do not reactivate. I like the idea of layering paint on paint on paper to build darks, even though I'm not really quite there yet. Anyway, I haven't really done any water colors in a long time, so I plan to start getting back into that soon enough.

    In the mean time, I have a bunch of stuff to post (though less than I should have to post, but I ended up enjoying the sun and the city a little too much.

    So this is going to be broken into two parts, because I have some stuff to do tonight, and I wont have enough time to do both until after I come back or tomorrow.

    Here goes!

    This is kind of old. I don't remember, but I don't think I showed it, and I kind of liked it. I found out about the print shop at school, and was trying to work on a design that I could make into a big poster or something. That went nowhere:
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090401.jpg

    I ended up buying some grey markers. My feelings on them were mixed, but this is from before the trip, or maybe on the plane or something. I don't remember which. I think I was testing them out the day before I left.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090406.jpg
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090409.jpg

    I'm pretty sure this was drawn on the plane.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090410.jpg

    Chicago O'Hare airport, waiting for my flight.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090411.jpg

    Left for... New York! These were done while hanging around Manhattan. My drawings/day went down significantly.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090408.jpg

    I think these were all (maybe not the first) drawn in a little place called the Museum of Natural History. I love that place, though it's the old exhibits that are the coolest. The temporary ones, while cool every once in a while, aren't the greatest. The Butterfly conservatory is fun as is the aviary, but those wasn't there--instead some lizard thing which was ok, and some horse thing, which I kind of didn't care about because where I live we have a big horse park place, and I can just go there. I guess if I lived in Manhattan, I wouldn't see horses all that often though, so it might have been cool.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090402.jpg
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090403.jpg
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090404.jpg
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090405.jpg
    This last one was outside by the museum-there was a horse statue. I probably should have erased the face, but whatever.

    I also went to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, several times, and it was amazing. If you ever get the chance, go. I could go there over and over and over again (in fact, I ended up going three times to spend the early day).

    Oh, and on the subject of Horses, I went to Union Square. This was the result:
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090412.jpg

    After that, I ended up going overseas, where I drew approximately one picture over the course of those three weeks. The only significant part about this is that it was drawn in Bali. Meh.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090407.jpg

    That's it for now. I've started school, which means I sketch a lot more though. Yay for productivity, I should have more stuff soon!

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The planet I'm from has about twice the radius of your Earth, but rotates at the same speed. Because of this, the days take about four times as long. That's why it's taken me four of your Earth days to do what I said would be done the next, but here's the more recent half of the dump.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090413.jpg

    Doodlin' in class:
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090414.jpg

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090415.jpg

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090416.jpg

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090417.jpg

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090418.jpg

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090419.jpg

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090420.jpg


    I'm actually pretty happy how this one came out (the topone), as I think I progressed a lot with the markers on it by layering it. I'm still running into a problem with these markers where the lightest seems like a five or so, meaning from light to dark it goes something like this: 0, 5, 6, 9.

    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090421.jpg

    Hands!
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090422.jpg

    Faces, I like the top one, except for some things I was unhappy with but also unable to fix. Maybe I'll remake it sometime.
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/yekcinpil/08090423.jpg
    That's it for now. I've been playing a little with ink again though, so I hope you folks are looking forward to that! (hint: don't look forward to it, it's a train wreck)

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Content! Stuff from doodling in or between class.

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    This sucks, because the whole thing scanned crappily. I tried to salvage this little ink doodle, but eh.
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    Sitting in on figure drawing class. I left a charcoal sitting there last time. I'll bring a camera next time if I remember, but it might be totally destroyed because I had no fixative.
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    Ink and Watercolor sketches for a watercolor painting I'm going to work on. I haven't given it up yet!
    08091009.jpg

    Edit: Just to be fair, I used a few things for reference: this and this.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well, got to keep this thing updated, lest I let it slip, eh?
    Only sketching I managed today.
    08091101.jpg


    Now, the painting above I was doing sketches for? I have a couple of progress shots for you ladies and gents. The plan currently is to do two 8x12 paintings, and then buy a large sheet of watercolor paper and try it larger (not all at once though, I'm going to take a bit of a break after I finish this one.

    Progress:
    WildfireIWIP01copy.jpg


    WildfireIWIP02.jpg

    Edit: My scanner scanned that a little hot in places. Like near the house, there's actually a shade of green there, though it's pretty slight right now.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Another day, another post. Or something. I have a botany test tomorrow, otherwise I would have finished that watercolor and started on something else. On the plus side, I bought some big water color paper, so I'm prepared once I get a few more smaller ones out of the way. I hope it ends up awesome.


    Anyway, for your viewing pleasure:

    These two are marker. They scanned weird when I did pure black and white, so I had to dick with levels in grey-scale instead. That demon has eyes you can't see.
    09091501.jpg
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    Perhaps worth noting, that demon was drawn during Philosophy as we were talking about Rene DeCarte's proof of God. Earlier, he had said that perhaps a demon had deceived him his entire life, and even mathematical truths might be false, since he can't step outside of his experience to check.

    Some pencil sketches for a few small watercolors I want to do. I want to so something sequential and print it up on a 4x6 or a 6x9. Flat middle face :|
    09091503.jpg

    Sketches during film in Art Concepts.
    09091504.jpg

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I have to say i really like your water colour sketches.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanks, I really like sketching that way, since you get color and it's so fluid and fun. I finally bought some bigger sheets of paper and I hope to break into them later in the week.




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    piL wrote: »
    Another day, another post. Or something. I have a botany test tomorrow, otherwise I would have finished that watercolor and started on something else. On the plus side, I bought some big water color paper, so I'm prepared once I get a few more smaller ones out of the way. I hope it ends up awesome.


    Anyway, for your viewing pleasure:

    These two are marker. They scanned weird when I did pure black and white, so I had to dick with levels in grey-scale instead. That demon has eyes you can't see.
    09091501.jpg
    09091502.jpg
    Perhaps worth noting, that demon was drawn during Philosophy as we were talking about Rene DeCarte's proof of God. Earlier, he had said that perhaps a demon had deceived him his entire life, and even mathematical truths might be false, since he can't step outside of his experience to check.

    Some pencil sketches for a few small watercolors I want to do. I want to so something sequential and print it up on a 4x6 or a 6x9. Flat middle face :|
    09091503.jpg

    Sketches during film in Art Concepts.
    09091504.jpg

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Warhammer came out. Productivity sharply dropped. I must examine this relationship more closely, I believe there could be some sort of correlation.

    In any event, here is some stuff I did recently!

    First, I'll start out with the next stage of the woodland fire. I'm getting kind of tired of this piece--I planed on doing three more small sketches, and one more of it about this size, but now I'm thinking there's no way. I already started on the big one, but I'm still nowhere on it, and I'm not sure if I'll be touching it again. Probably I guess. Anyway, here:

    08092101.jpg

    There's also an errant green spot which wasn't there when I put in my folder the other day. I think I dripped paint in my folder or something. I guess I need to figure out how that's going to come out.

    This was from a particularly frustrating day where I sit in on figure drawing:
    08092102.jpg
    After a bit of wrestling with charcoals that just weren't working for me that day, I discovered that neither were water colors. Still, tried to relax and do what I could do. Which weren't very much.


    The rest are pencil sketches from my sketch book. I've almost filled this sketch book up, which means I get to move on to my next quarter-filled one. Hurray for that, though it's more of a pain to scan.
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    08092105.jpg

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So, only a few sketches today but I finished up a sketchbook today and started in the middle of another old one, which I will finish. Then I'm going to buy a new sketchbook (I'm excited) and maybe make a second one (or just buy a second watercolor one) and make a project sketchbook. I'm not sure what the project is yet, but I was thinking either a bunch of animal illustrations or a guide to the trees on my campus.

    Anyway here's the last page of the first sketch book, dutily finished in Philosophy class:
    08092201.jpg

    And here's my first new page in the second old one. What's funny about this is that (at least I think) I've improved greatly since the last sketch I had in there, so if somebody looks through it, hopefully the effect will be jarring. Wide eyes on the right.

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