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Our Beautiful American Primaries
Barack Obama
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There is one thing on this February night that we do not need the final results to know. Our time has come. Our time has come. Our movement is real, and change is coming to America.
What began as a whisper in Springfield soon carried across the cornfields of Iowa, where farmers and factory workers, students and seniors stood up in numbers we have never seen before.
They stood up to say that maybe this year we don't have to settle for politics where scoring points is more important than solving problems.
Maybe this year we can finally start doing something about health care we can't afford.
Maybe this year we can start doing a thing about mortgages we can't pay. Maybe this year, this time can be different.
Their voices echoed from the hills of New Hampshire to the deserts of Nevada, where teachers and cooks and kitchen workers stood up to say that maybe Washington doesn't have to be run by lobbyists anymore.
Maybe the voices of the American people can finally be heard again.
They reached the coast of South Carolina, when people said that maybe we don't have to be divided by race and regions and gender ... that the crumbling schools are stealing the future of black children and white children ... that we can come together and build an America that gives every child everywhere the opportunity to live out their dreams. This time can be different.
And today, on this Tuesday in February, in states north and south, east and west, what began as a whisper in Springfield has swelled to a chorus of millions calling for change.
It's a course that cannot be ignored, a course that cannot be deterred. This time can be different, because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different.
It's different not because of me. It's different because of you. Because you are tired of being disappointed ... and you're tired of being let down.
You're tired of hearing promises made and plans proposed in the heat of a campaign, only to have nothing change when everyone goes back to Washington. Nothing changes because lobbyists just write another check or politicians start worrying about how to win the next election instead of why they should or because they focus on who's up and who's down instead of who matters.
And while Washington is consumed with the same drama and divisions and distractions, another family puts up a for sale sign in their front yard, another factory shuts its doors, another soldiers waves goodbye as he leaves on another tour of duty in a war that should have never been authorized and should have never been waged ... and goes on and on and on.
But in this election, at this moment, you are standing up all across this country to say not this time, not this year. The stakes are too high and the challenges too great to play the same Washington game with the same Washington players and somehow expect a different result.
This time must be different. This time we have to turn the page. This time we have to write a new chapter in American history. This time we have to seize the moment.
It's a choice between having a debate with the other party about who has the most experience in Washington or having one about who is most likely to change Washington, because that's a debate that we can win.
And if I am your nominee, my opponent will not be able to say that I voted for the war in Iraq, because I didn't; or that I gave George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, because I haven't; or that I support the Bush-Cheney doctrine of not talking to leaders we don't like, because I profoundly disagree with that approach.
I'll be the president who ends the tax breaks to companies that ship our jobs overseas and start putting them in the pockets of hardworking Americans who deserve them and struggling homeowners who deserve them and seniors who should retire with dignity and respect and deserve them.
I'll be the president who finally brings Democrats and Republicans together to make health care affordable and available for every single American.
We will put a college education within the reach of anyone who wants to go. And instead of just talking about how great our teachers are, we will reward them for their greatness with more pay and better support.
And we will harness the ingenuity of farmers and scientists and entrepreneurs to free this nation from the tyranny of oil once and for all and we will invest in solar and wind and biodiesel, clean energy, green energy that can fuel economic development for generations to come.
That's what we're going to do when I'm president of the United States.
When I'm president, we will put an end to the politics of fear, a politics that uses 9/11 as a way to scare up votes. We're going to start seeing 9/11 as a challenge that should unite America and the world against the common threats of the 21st century, terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty, genocide and disease.
God bless you, and God bless America.
What began as a whisper in Springfield soon carried across the cornfields of Iowa, where farmers and factory workers, students and seniors stood up in numbers we have never seen before.
They stood up to say that maybe this year we don't have to settle for politics where scoring points is more important than solving problems.
Maybe this year we can finally start doing something about health care we can't afford.
Maybe this year we can start doing a thing about mortgages we can't pay. Maybe this year, this time can be different.
Their voices echoed from the hills of New Hampshire to the deserts of Nevada, where teachers and cooks and kitchen workers stood up to say that maybe Washington doesn't have to be run by lobbyists anymore.
Maybe the voices of the American people can finally be heard again.
They reached the coast of South Carolina, when people said that maybe we don't have to be divided by race and regions and gender ... that the crumbling schools are stealing the future of black children and white children ... that we can come together and build an America that gives every child everywhere the opportunity to live out their dreams. This time can be different.
And today, on this Tuesday in February, in states north and south, east and west, what began as a whisper in Springfield has swelled to a chorus of millions calling for change.
It's a course that cannot be ignored, a course that cannot be deterred. This time can be different, because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different.
It's different not because of me. It's different because of you. Because you are tired of being disappointed ... and you're tired of being let down.
You're tired of hearing promises made and plans proposed in the heat of a campaign, only to have nothing change when everyone goes back to Washington. Nothing changes because lobbyists just write another check or politicians start worrying about how to win the next election instead of why they should or because they focus on who's up and who's down instead of who matters.
And while Washington is consumed with the same drama and divisions and distractions, another family puts up a for sale sign in their front yard, another factory shuts its doors, another soldiers waves goodbye as he leaves on another tour of duty in a war that should have never been authorized and should have never been waged ... and goes on and on and on.
But in this election, at this moment, you are standing up all across this country to say not this time, not this year. The stakes are too high and the challenges too great to play the same Washington game with the same Washington players and somehow expect a different result.
This time must be different. This time we have to turn the page. This time we have to write a new chapter in American history. This time we have to seize the moment.
It's a choice between having a debate with the other party about who has the most experience in Washington or having one about who is most likely to change Washington, because that's a debate that we can win.
And if I am your nominee, my opponent will not be able to say that I voted for the war in Iraq, because I didn't; or that I gave George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, because I haven't; or that I support the Bush-Cheney doctrine of not talking to leaders we don't like, because I profoundly disagree with that approach.
I'll be the president who ends the tax breaks to companies that ship our jobs overseas and start putting them in the pockets of hardworking Americans who deserve them and struggling homeowners who deserve them and seniors who should retire with dignity and respect and deserve them.
I'll be the president who finally brings Democrats and Republicans together to make health care affordable and available for every single American.
We will put a college education within the reach of anyone who wants to go. And instead of just talking about how great our teachers are, we will reward them for their greatness with more pay and better support.
And we will harness the ingenuity of farmers and scientists and entrepreneurs to free this nation from the tyranny of oil once and for all and we will invest in solar and wind and biodiesel, clean energy, green energy that can fuel economic development for generations to come.
That's what we're going to do when I'm president of the United States.
When I'm president, we will put an end to the politics of fear, a politics that uses 9/11 as a way to scare up votes. We're going to start seeing 9/11 as a challenge that should unite America and the world against the common threats of the 21st century, terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty, genocide and disease.
God bless you, and God bless America.
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It will probably depend on whether or not Hillary gets the nod.
FUCK YEAH!
Hillary can't necessarily count on a 'firewall' of them here.
Also, I'm highly sleep deprived, so it's mostly just a funny word to me.
*literally the name of the town
I still think she probably has an institutional advantage there. We have a month to get them convinced.
...why the fuck do I know so much about Shasta?
And yet for some reason we will have a primary date set for like May 13th that won't mean anything.
*swoon*
edit: oops that was for 1 city, hah. But apparently it's not too far off, I just got some other site that says it's around 10%
edit2: is Texas an open primary? I can't seem to confirm.... ...and anyone know about Ohio?
On the black screen
Well, fuck you, CNN
...which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Well, excepting the "YES WE CAN"s, which long ago passed the point of being merely annoying.
Whoa...that's pretty slick.
Texas never got the extra attention CA got during the Clinton Administration, and it's not Hillary Clinton's senate seat the way NY is.
Cynic. :P
God bless Texas.
MWO: Adamski
725 polled 1/10/08, Margin of Error 3.6%
* Clinton 46% (51%)
* Obama 28% (17%)
* Edwards 14% (15%)
* Kucinich 1% (1%)
* Gravel 1% (0%)
* Undecided 10%
Not a very large sample size, but it was the first to come up on google.
Yes.
If you have Twitter, you can send your own updates and it will display on everyone's Google Election Map as chat bubbles.
You stfu and never question my Futurama knowledge ever again.
Yeah, I just signed up for twitter and can't figure it out. And the messages popping up on the map have started repeating themselves verbatim. I'm not sure it works like we think it should.
The latest poll, taken on the 31st, has them 10% apart. Obama's got a month. He can make that up and move ahead.
Wow, I was worrying about the wrong state. It looks like Ohio has way more old people (like 25% of the population is over 65) and closed primaries (still confirming this).
On the right there is a link to Google + Twitter.
Open primaries in the sense you don't have to be registered as a democrat. You do, however, have to register as of February 4th (two days ago).