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The New Turok: Dinosaurs, and How to Stab Them
Ninja Snarl P
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My helmet is my burden.Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
So, the new Turok is out. Back in the day, I only played the original and enjoyed it well enough (though I never bought it). Now we have a shiny new Turok which seems to be cutting out the mystical/alternate world aspect of the older games in favor of a futuristic setting. If you want to find out more about the story, well, that's not what I'm interested talking about (plus, I don't want to spoil stuff). I am interested in talking about:
So Turok is of American Indian descent (or Native American, if you want to be politically correct). He (ironically) uses a bow; a bow that Rambo would be quite happy with (it even has grenade arrows). He shoots stuff with guns, of course (this is a first-person shooter, after all). However, as I found out while playing the demo, shooting stuff to kill it is the wrong way to play. What you really need to do is:
I'm not joking. Almost all the dinosaurs I kill, I kill by stabbing. Every time I get a chance to stab a soldier, I do it. Even if means getting shot a whole bunch.
Oh yeah, the whole game takes place on what is essentially a jungle planet. Dinosaurs, apparently, love jungles. Jungle is the climate of love of dinosaurs because there are dinosaurs everywhere. On the ground. In the trees. Under trees, which is also known as underground. Everywhere. Roughly 95% of them want to eat you. The other 5% that don't try to eat you are useful because you can use them to distract the you-eating dinosaurs. You can also kill them horribly for staring at you. Or for just being in your way. There are bad guy soldiers too, but they aren't dinosaurs so who cares?
So how about some details about the game?
Good stuff:
-lots of angry, hungry dinosaurs. They look awesome and do a very good job of convincing you that they are, in fact, actual dinosaurs.
-using the knife is devastatingly effective against pretty much everything you can reach. Fun times.
-there aren't ten million guns that do the same stuff. Each gun does something different and all can be pretty useful (such as a chain gun, which is always fun, that sets up as a turret for its secondary fire)
-beautiful jungle environments
-a story which isn't actually too bad. It's not Mass Effect (although that doesn't have dinosaurs), but it's still enough to make you want to kill the bad guys, get revenge, etc.
-switching weapons happens fast. Like half a second. Which is good, because I hate when it takes your character two full seconds of getting shot to switch weapons.
-enemies that are halfway smart. Enemy soldiers flank, attacking dinosaurs will hit and run, etc. Nothing that indicates the presence of Skynet, but a lot better AI than games normally get these days.
-when you're by yourself and just dealing with dinosaurs, the game has an excellent atmosphere. Dripping water, insect noises, animal calls, roars, rustling leaves; they all work to make you feel like there is a slavering monster around every corner. Up until you have to deal with human enemies and then things feel much more generic.
-2-4 player online coop play
-in multiplayer matches, dinosaurs roam the maps and attack you and other players
Bad stuff:
-you can't really customize the control scheme. I hate that. This is 2008, not 1998.
-the allies that end up following you around do virtually zero damage when they shoot anything. About all they're good for is drawing firing and killing one tiny variety of carnivorous dinosaur which has almost no threat value. They're pretty dumb, too.
-there are some seriously annoying and cheap parts of the game. Fighting a T-rex? Awesome. Getting killed by two guys with machine guns before you can even really see them? Stupid.
-the save system sucks. It's all autosave and it saves in 20-30 minute intervals (generally). Combined with some of the cheap parts, this is really, really aggravating. I just quit a play session because after twenty minutes of fighting which had enough breaks for 3-4 autosave points, I got killed in a stupid way and got put all the back at the beginning of the fight. It wasn't the first time it happened, either.
-some minor glitches such as models hopping around erratically, sound syncing in some cutscenes, stuff like that. Nothing gamebreaking, but you'll see them.
-getting shot always messes up your aim, but shooting the bad guys doesn't always mess up their aim. When you're getting shot at from 5 different angles, this is a huge pain.
-the coop mode is completely online. Sure, it's better than no coop at all, but people shouldn't have to buy multiple systems to play coop with a brother or friend that comes over.
This isn't a mega-blockbuster game, but it's still a major departure (in terms of the environment, anyway) from a lot of the sci-fi FPS games that are out there. It has some issues, but it has some great high points, too. My personal favorite with the game right now is sneaking through the extremely well-done grass and, of course, stabbing an enemy that's wandered away from his buddies. Jumping on a velociraptor's back and cutting its throat is also fun.
If there are people who want to put together a list of people with the game (for the multiplayer portion, which I haven't tried yet), I suppose this would be the thread to do that in (I noticed the previous Turok thread got shut down because there really wasn't anything about the game).
Anyway, discuss the game at your leisure. That's why the thread is here, isn't it? Oh, sorry about the H-scroll raping pictures; I don't have a image editing program to fix them up properly.
In conclusion:
DINOSAURS!!!
MORE dinosaurs!!!
GIANT dinosaurs!!!
And I suppose Turok as well...
MORE dinosaurs!!!
GIANT dinosaurs!!!
And I suppose Turok as well...
So Turok is of American Indian descent (or Native American, if you want to be politically correct). He (ironically) uses a bow; a bow that Rambo would be quite happy with (it even has grenade arrows). He shoots stuff with guns, of course (this is a first-person shooter, after all). However, as I found out while playing the demo, shooting stuff to kill it is the wrong way to play. What you really need to do is:
STAB EVERYTHING!!!
(no, this isn't Turok in this shot, but there is some stabbing)
(no, this isn't Turok in this shot, but there is some stabbing)
I'm not joking. Almost all the dinosaurs I kill, I kill by stabbing. Every time I get a chance to stab a soldier, I do it. Even if means getting shot a whole bunch.
Oh yeah, the whole game takes place on what is essentially a jungle planet. Dinosaurs, apparently, love jungles. Jungle is the climate of love of dinosaurs because there are dinosaurs everywhere. On the ground. In the trees. Under trees, which is also known as underground. Everywhere. Roughly 95% of them want to eat you. The other 5% that don't try to eat you are useful because you can use them to distract the you-eating dinosaurs. You can also kill them horribly for staring at you. Or for just being in your way. There are bad guy soldiers too, but they aren't dinosaurs so who cares?
So how about some details about the game?
Good stuff:
-lots of angry, hungry dinosaurs. They look awesome and do a very good job of convincing you that they are, in fact, actual dinosaurs.
-using the knife is devastatingly effective against pretty much everything you can reach. Fun times.
-there aren't ten million guns that do the same stuff. Each gun does something different and all can be pretty useful (such as a chain gun, which is always fun, that sets up as a turret for its secondary fire)
-beautiful jungle environments
-a story which isn't actually too bad. It's not Mass Effect (although that doesn't have dinosaurs), but it's still enough to make you want to kill the bad guys, get revenge, etc.
-switching weapons happens fast. Like half a second. Which is good, because I hate when it takes your character two full seconds of getting shot to switch weapons.
-enemies that are halfway smart. Enemy soldiers flank, attacking dinosaurs will hit and run, etc. Nothing that indicates the presence of Skynet, but a lot better AI than games normally get these days.
-when you're by yourself and just dealing with dinosaurs, the game has an excellent atmosphere. Dripping water, insect noises, animal calls, roars, rustling leaves; they all work to make you feel like there is a slavering monster around every corner. Up until you have to deal with human enemies and then things feel much more generic.
-2-4 player online coop play
-in multiplayer matches, dinosaurs roam the maps and attack you and other players
Bad stuff:
-you can't really customize the control scheme. I hate that. This is 2008, not 1998.
-the allies that end up following you around do virtually zero damage when they shoot anything. About all they're good for is drawing firing and killing one tiny variety of carnivorous dinosaur which has almost no threat value. They're pretty dumb, too.
-there are some seriously annoying and cheap parts of the game. Fighting a T-rex? Awesome. Getting killed by two guys with machine guns before you can even really see them? Stupid.
-the save system sucks. It's all autosave and it saves in 20-30 minute intervals (generally). Combined with some of the cheap parts, this is really, really aggravating. I just quit a play session because after twenty minutes of fighting which had enough breaks for 3-4 autosave points, I got killed in a stupid way and got put all the back at the beginning of the fight. It wasn't the first time it happened, either.
-some minor glitches such as models hopping around erratically, sound syncing in some cutscenes, stuff like that. Nothing gamebreaking, but you'll see them.
-getting shot always messes up your aim, but shooting the bad guys doesn't always mess up their aim. When you're getting shot at from 5 different angles, this is a huge pain.
-the coop mode is completely online. Sure, it's better than no coop at all, but people shouldn't have to buy multiple systems to play coop with a brother or friend that comes over.
This isn't a mega-blockbuster game, but it's still a major departure (in terms of the environment, anyway) from a lot of the sci-fi FPS games that are out there. It has some issues, but it has some great high points, too. My personal favorite with the game right now is sneaking through the extremely well-done grass and, of course, stabbing an enemy that's wandered away from his buddies. Jumping on a velociraptor's back and cutting its throat is also fun.
If there are people who want to put together a list of people with the game (for the multiplayer portion, which I haven't tried yet), I suppose this would be the thread to do that in (I noticed the previous Turok thread got shut down because there really wasn't anything about the game).
Anyway, discuss the game at your leisure. That's why the thread is here, isn't it? Oh, sorry about the H-scroll raping pictures; I don't have a image editing program to fix them up properly.
In conclusion:
EVEN MORE DINOSAURS!!!
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Is there even a Cerebral Bore? A totally awesome flamethrower? Anything? Or just plain old stupid guns.
By chance do you like dinosaurs?
(Incidentally, I do too. I -must- get around to trying this demo).
PSN: SirGrinchX
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if you try the game then you will notice that the knife is almost all you need...
Shame it's not in this version. The demo wasn't half bad (knifing enemies was cool), but what you said about save points is so so true. I went far ahead of a section, only to get killed, and start again from 20 minutes ago.
I always liked the basic weapons the best in Turok, they let you view the insane violence more clearly.
Turok 2 was amazing for an n64 game, especially with the expansion slot.
I didn't really enjoy it, to much fog :P I seem to recall my younger brother enjoying it (but he was running around with an all weapons cheat on).
I could barely see the gun in the first one.
So foggy.
They need to put that shit on Wii VC NOW!
XBL - Follow Freeman
Just making it more open-ended would have made a huge difference. It doesn't feel like you're stuck on a hugely forested world, but a series of corridors surrounded by trees. Exploration would have been awesome in a setting like this; running into strange dinosaurs, landmarks, avoiding predators, and so forth.
Even if it was just in the style of a game such as FarCry. Something like that can't be too hard to accomplish.
XBL - Follow Freeman
Then the whole "how Joe Turok learned to use a knife and got a scar on his face!" scene was dire.
It did, however, let me say "clever girl.." on more than one occasion, which is a worthwhile point.
I am a little disapointed from the lack of a Sci-Fi arsenal, but as of right now, the Bow is definitely keeping my attention.
A quick glance at the instructino book shows some kind of pulse rifle and flamethrower, so that'll be nice.
I dunno, the Jungle is great and all, but for some reason, I just miss the Port of Adia (the south american style temples in the first level of Turok 2).
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
I wasn't really paying attention to what was being said, but I picked up on a few specific words.
"blahblah... on an unknown planet... blahblah"
Never had my interest plummeted so fast. Planet? Turok in space? Space dinosaurs? They're trying to distance themselves from the hilariously revolting cyborg cowboy riding a robo-dinosaur from the last game with space dinosaurs?
Guess it really doesn't matter if I'm off or wrong. You only get one chance to make a first impression, and they just made it with that commercial.
...heh, space dinos...
Twas glorious.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
If not, bah. These people don't know what they're doing with John Turok.
What? They're on a planet, thus not in space, not space dinosaurs, planet dinosaurs. By your logic everything in the Universe is a Space Something.
007 the Space Secret Agent, Lara Croft the Space Tomb Raider, Prince of Space Persia etc.
I'll admit it was a bad conclusion, however
15 minutes in:
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
I'm not sure about anyone else, but for some reason, my demo was so dark I couldn't see shit. I was walking blind the whole time.
The actual game isn't that dark, just the demo for some reason.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
I think the funniest part for me was the fact that I was playing the demo off the OXM disc (bought for the Rock Band extras), and they kept playing the trailer for Turok. I laughed my ass off over the whole overly dramatic "It was supposed to be an easy mission...", typical trailer narration. So fucking generic.
Exactly the same reaction I had when I played the demo on my 360. Didn't even finish it. Darker than Doom with no flash light wtf. Maybe I'll download the PS3 version later and see if I can actually see the game then.:|
It was really fun to see him stab dinosaurs from the fog though.
A N64 FPS, that had about 20 weapons, all with either an alt fire or 2-3 types of ammo.
6 giant levels, that would tally the game up to around 20 hours of play time, ATLEAST.
Not to mention a decent multiplayer that had an interested character selectin process. Characters had stats. Like Turok had 100 health, but Adon had 80 with regeneration. Of course, lets not forget the option to play as a Raptor in Multi as well.
So who do we write to get this on the VC?
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Some would say that "that isn't saying much" and they might be right.
Just, understand that I tend to have very awkward taste in FPS. :P
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
The problem with that is that the game gets very generic whenever you get into any of the buildings and start dealing exclusively with human opponents. There are also some very, very, very frustrating parts due mainly to either the dinosaurs being far, far too difficult to kill (raptors can take 20-30 rounds before going down on normal and that's just stupid) or enemies having near-perfect accuracy. So the good parts are good, but they always get dragged down by having to deal with some very stupid crap.
Oh, and this is a minor issue, but most of the achievements are tied to playing multiplayer. I hate when devs do that.
In regards to people having the demo be too dark, I would bet that your TV settings are the issue and not the game. The demo and the full game look identical to me and I never had any problems in the underground areas.
It seems that this is still the best dinosaur murder simulator to date:
And yes, I played and loved that game, so honestly, what the fuck do I know?!
Are there awesome fucking weapons that do more than just shoot a variety of lead bullets? Do some turn people to stone? Do they disintegrate everything? I mean, stabbing sure, but I want some devastation.
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@hoodiethirteen
flare to enemy
dino to flare
explode sicky bomb
win
Nah, the devs were saying they wanted to get away from the over-the-top craziness of the Turok series.