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The short answer is: Who gives a fuck about cliches? Just man up and ask her.
Seems acceptable to me to ask a girl out on any day that isn't like a funeral or something more morbid than I can't think of at the moment.
I would avoid roses as a gift, though. They're usually interpreted as a gift of love, and well, it's probably safe to say that you're not in love with her, nor do you know if she even likes roses. :!:
Girl's perspective: What is stopping you from asking her out BEFORE Valentine's?
And I'd say no on the roses. They're definitely cliche, and some girls (like me) think of them as cheesy. There are much pretty flowers out there. A lot of girls seem to like daisies, if you are determined to get her flowers. Plus, roses are super expensive on Vday.
What do you mean by 'ask out'? Like, "Will you be my GF?" type thing or "Hey, do you want to go.." ? If it's the first, have you already dated and if it's the second, she might be busy, girls tend to like earlier notice (But they also seem to like spontaneous 'romantic' type things), etc.
Dont do the roses. I think it's very lame especially if you haven't been out with each other before. Save that stuff for when youre actually in a relationship
One thing I'd say is don't be a douchebag (brainbuster level advice, huh?). Valentine's Day is a very hyped up "relationship" holiday...but first dates are not serious things. Don't go nuts because it's Valentine's Day when you should be treating it as any other first date.
I wouldn't do the roses or any other flowers, at least this early. At the most go with the single flower at the door.
I kind of got duped into a Valentine's date (It was a girl I was dating a few years back who I had lost touch with but recently came into contact with, hung out, she asked me if I was doing anything on Tuesday and if I wanted to go out, I said yes, later realized that Tuesday was Valentine's day). We just went out for dinner and drinks. I, realizing that it was Valentine's day, went with the flower route. I didn't go for a rose, because, well, that's just not my style. I got her a single Iris, and she was pretty thrilled.
Turns out we were totally incompatible, but oh well, it was a decent date; save for the part when she spilled wine on my laptop and shorted it out.
My advice: if you think a gift is in order, then I'd advise something simple and tasteful. A bouquet of roses is right out in my opinion, so don't go down that road. Also, don't stress out about the Valentine's part. Like Prom, there are some strange expectations for some people and that can add a lot of unnecessary stress to the date; especially a first one.
Well... I went the whole route you're go for. Girl knew I really, really liked her. I was just really, really shy and unable to ask her out. So on Valentine's Day we get gifts (this is in high school) at the end of the day. My brilliant plan was, "Well, I'll be at the field so I don't have to see her get it." Oh shit, they move it an hour ahead and give out gifts while I'm in class with her. I managed to sneak out of class for the last 20 minutes and didn't talk to her for the rest of the day. We had a basketball game that night, I went before she got there. She tapped me on the shoulder and said, "thanks for the rose." I played it off and acted like I didn't what she was talking about. She was sweet enough to get me a book about OU football (one of the first and last things she did that was sweet) and then I asked her out in an awkward way at her house. It was a night to remember because it was what she wanted.
It all depends on the girl like someone said above. My thought about asking her out on Valentine's Day was, "Well, it would be romantic." It was. She appreciated it very much and the rose was something that she knew I really cared for her.
1. Why not take advantage of a day that memorializes a man who married many people even if it was against the law for love, a day that is specifically for warm love?
2. Who wouldn't like flowers or a nice gift (not a mound of chocolate Dx)?
I'll admit that, while I don't care for how commercial the holiday is, the intent of taking a day specifically to show people that you care about them or want to be romantic towards someone shouldn't be wasted... let alone any day really.
Ask her out first, at least to something low-risk like coffee. Over coffee, you can bring up Valentine's Day plans, and hey, there's much less pressure that way.
Find out if she likes roses. Not everyone does (I knew a girl who was, in fact, terribly allergic to roses, and it'd suck to spend a date waiting outside the emergency room). Ditto with stuffed animals, chocolate, etc. A gift that shows you know what she likes as an individual is always going to be better than a generic gift.
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Seems acceptable to me to ask a girl out on any day that isn't like a funeral or something more morbid than I can't think of at the moment.
I would avoid roses as a gift, though. They're usually interpreted as a gift of love, and well, it's probably safe to say that you're not in love with her, nor do you know if she even likes roses. :!:
And I'd say no on the roses. They're definitely cliche, and some girls (like me) think of them as cheesy. There are much pretty flowers out there. A lot of girls seem to like daisies, if you are determined to get her flowers. Plus, roses are super expensive on Vday.
Dont do the roses. I think it's very lame especially if you haven't been out with each other before. Save that stuff for when youre actually in a relationship
I wouldn't do the roses or any other flowers, at least this early. At the most go with the single flower at the door.
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Turns out we were totally incompatible, but oh well, it was a decent date; save for the part when she spilled wine on my laptop and shorted it out.
My advice: if you think a gift is in order, then I'd advise something simple and tasteful. A bouquet of roses is right out in my opinion, so don't go down that road. Also, don't stress out about the Valentine's part. Like Prom, there are some strange expectations for some people and that can add a lot of unnecessary stress to the date; especially a first one.
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It all depends on the girl like someone said above. My thought about asking her out on Valentine's Day was, "Well, it would be romantic." It was. She appreciated it very much and the rose was something that she knew I really cared for her.
Go for it, I say.
1. Why not take advantage of a day that memorializes a man who married many people even if it was against the law for love, a day that is specifically for warm love?
2. Who wouldn't like flowers or a nice gift (not a mound of chocolate Dx)?
I'll admit that, while I don't care for how commercial the holiday is, the intent of taking a day specifically to show people that you care about them or want to be romantic towards someone shouldn't be wasted... let alone any day really.
Find out if she likes roses. Not everyone does (I knew a girl who was, in fact, terribly allergic to roses, and it'd suck to spend a date waiting outside the emergency room). Ditto with stuffed animals, chocolate, etc. A gift that shows you know what she likes as an individual is always going to be better than a generic gift.