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Knights of the Old Republic 3
BlackDove
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http://kotaku.com/355808/bioware-at-work-on-a-new-kotor
Seems like Bioware has it, and it's not the MMO. So if they're the developer, expect some Mass Effect with lightsabres.
Seems like Bioware has it, and it's not the MMO. So if they're the developer, expect some Mass Effect with lightsabres.
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I mean, why put it down as an acronym then?
It seems silly, but I'm cautiously optimistic for these very reasons.
If it's Mass Effect with lightsabers, SO fucking bought.
If it's Knights of the Old republic 1 + 2... pass
I'm sorry, but I couldn't get passed the gameplay of the first 2 KoToRs, which sucks because apparently the plot is awesome.
Bioware didn't do KOTOR 2. Sorry to rain on your clever parade.
Quiet, you're ruining my cutting witticism
You're drawn to my eccentric Brawl Code: 4596 9143 4529
That's kind of funny, considering Mass Effect is a KOTOR 1 + 2 clone.
did you read that bolded part? because I'll be damned if they're anything similar outside of the D&D rules that's under it all.
If this is Knights of the Old Republic 3, what the fuck is Lucas Arts up to? How are they involved in this?
No, they're pretty much exactly the same.
The gameplay itself is slightly different because it's not geared towards using melee weapons, but the only essential change is that you're clicking and aiming when you want to fire and using a cover system ripped out of Gears/Rainbow Vegas instead of clicking on abilities that do the firing for you. That, as a change, is not a big enough one to merit the title of "different".
Especially since Interaction, skills, inventory, traveling, and all that is almost exactly the same though.
Who do you think licences Star Wars lore? Hopefully though they're not the publisher this time around (EA is there for that). It's Lucas Arts that cocked up KOTOR 2, not Obisidian..
Seriously? Seriously?
No one else is gonna call this dude out but me? KoToR and Mass Effect were about as opposite as 2 RPGs could possibly be.
ONLY ONE HAD PAZAAAK CRAZY MIRITE!
You're joking, right?
Changing the combat from a pseudo-turn-based/real-time dice rolling simulation to a straight out shooter with some stats controlling damage output and the stability of your weapon isn't very different?
Just because you can talk to people doesn't make them the same game. The inventories are similar as is the travel between planets, but the skills? One's based off of D20 and the other is a brand new ruleset that has absolutely nothing to do with anything else. The consequence? Hey, this skill system doesn't do anything like D20 does except that you can put points into them.
I guess we might as well start calling KOTOR a Deus Ex clone. Crap, but Deus Ex was a clone of how many other games before? They have talking!
What BioWare game should I start with? KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect or KOTOR2?
I feel like KOTOR might feel outdated, and I hear JE was the weakest and that ME is intimidating in its depth and investment. Any thoughts?
The BioWare game you should start with is Baldur's Gate 2.
Failing that, KOTOR. It doesn't really feel all that outdated. It uses a tabletop RPG ruleset at its core and is turn-based running in real-time while the other two you mentioned play more like action games and are completely real-time.
Depending on taste, you might hate KOTOR, but it's not a bad place to start. It's still an excellent game and its visuals haven't aged badly at all in the four and a half years since it's come out.
KoToR's combat system is complex. Some love it, but I wasn't able to get it down. it's a shame - it's obviously well done, but I can't get passed the hurdle of actually playing it.
How is it complex? Hit enemy with weapon, do damage.
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...oh man I hope this one uses the Saga Edition rules.
I found 'em pretty much identical and couldn't get in to any of the three. I gave each a few hours but something about...I dunno how to put it...their style? Meant I couldn't get in to them.
From the few hours I played though, the games were incredibly similar. I can't see how you'd like Mass Effect and dislike the others.
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KOTOR didn't have dialog choices and voice acting?
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Sorry for the confusion, but I meant how the main character didn't speak in KOTOR. As for the dialog choices, they weren't as interesting or as important as in ME.
Man start with KOTOR, the gfx still awesome (and kotor2 is pretty much the same graphics) there's a new "all in one pack" something by lucas arts with kotor on it in case you can't find a copy.
If you can't stand the graphics, go Jade, it's marvelous (graphics/music/dialogs), but kotor is the best game ever for many players (had me almost in tears of joy) and a must have life experience.
Kotor 2 is alright if you starve for more, but it was never really finished in my humble opinion.
...and the kotor character didn't spoke as they sorta let the voice up to the player as we could be a lot of things instead of "insert here sheppard" loved both anyway.
Dudes, Kotor 3? For real? Life is worth it.
Myself, I'd rather they just moved on and found a different plot point.
Kotor 2 killed that particular story in a fashion I have never seen a game manage before. It's the only game I can recall off hand that ended poorly not once, but twice. First with super black hole sith lord, and a second time with the magical missing script lsd trip. But thats really beside the point, we should be celebrating.
To third chances!
The game takes aspects of the setting and deals with the ones that were seldom touched by any Star Wars fiction (the Mandalorians being a prime example), as well as a new soundtrack, all new characters (there's not a single appearance by any of the movie characters anywhere in the game), and essentially a "fresh" Star Wars setting. That alone is worth the playing it for, even if its graphically dated.
List of things I want to see:
Apart from that maybe open endedness would be nice, instead of linear worlds.
But it wasn't witty...
Anyway, wasn't this rumoured to the MMO Bioware Texas is working on? While I loved KOTOR 1 and 2, I'm not sure if I'd bother with a MMO, I'm not terribly fond of buying a game and then having to pay a subscription for the right to play said game.
Baldur's Gate 2 had complex combat. It is one of the reasons why it is a much better game.
You're a drooling cretin. Kotor uses the turn based Dungeons and Dragons 3rd edition D20 system. You queue abilities that auto-execute, and auto attack with your equiped weapons.
Mass Effect is in real time. All attacks are triggered manually and execute at your command.
They could not be more different.
If you do not think turn based versus real time is a "difference", I don't know what is.