So wait...you're all talking about people who roll need...for the item they NEED?
"But I can trade it for an Arcane tome!"
Fine.
I'm rolling need on everything. We'll see how many instances I get into after claiming "But I can totally use the enchanting mats/gold!"
On my realm, it's common practice to just spread them around, one per person, regardless of faction affiliation. Once had like 8 of the damned things drop in a SL run. Roll once, use that to determine the loot order, and go from there. Alternatively, roll greed each time, but anyone who has won one passes until all 5 have one, and then start again from there. This latter version is more common these days, in my experience.
yeah this
are all you other people insane or
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
edited March 2008
I just have everyone roll greed on everything all the time.
Its so easy to turn Arcane Tomes into Fel Armaments that its no big deal over who gets it.
JAEF's reasoning is sound. An Armament has the same end result as a Tome, and he wasn't going to sell it, so there's no reason for him not to roll. It's not the same as rolling on something because you can disenchant it and use the materials; that's serving a different purpose, not an identical one as in the case at hand. In my groups, it's a one-apiece need roll for each Armament/Tome if you still need rep, or just greed roll if you're already Exalted.
Amusingly, neither Violet Eye Pokers nor Rational Gaze are on the Wowjustu list for Sargeras on either US or EU.
Who?
And you're on Sarg?
Those were the guilds of the people in JAEF's amusing chatlog, but I'm an idiot and thought he was on Sarg instead of Spinebreaker. I'm actually on Shadowsong.
The guilds in JAEF's conversation apparently are just barely getting into T5 content, one of them having skipped Mag entirely.
2 megs full of terrible cropping and drama. For a TLDR:
Heroic SL cleared to murmur, I'm booted from my own group after rolling need along with some aldor fag on some fel armaments because I can trade them straight up for arcane tomes. I spend 2 hours wiping them/watching them wipe while I sit in the locked instance, then 2 more hours hanging around until they all log and they finally give up, I bring in 4 people and finish it and get phatty loot.
Yes, I'm a huge dick. This is on Spinebreaker if you want to look these guys up.
2 megs full of terrible cropping and drama. For a TLDR:
Heroic SL cleared to murmur, I'm booted from my own group after rolling need along with some aldor fag on some fel armaments because I can trade them straight up for arcane tomes. I spend 2 hours wiping them/watching them wipe while I sit in the locked instance, then 2 more hours hanging around until they all log and they finally give up, I bring in 4 people and finish it and get phatty loot.
Yes, I'm a huge dick. This is on Spinebreaker if you want to look these guys up.
2 megs full of terrible cropping and drama. For a TLDR:
Heroic SL cleared to murmur, I'm booted from my own group after rolling need along with some aldor fag on some fel armaments because I can trade them straight up for arcane tomes. I spend 2 hours wiping them/watching them wipe while I sit in the locked instance, then 2 more hours hanging around until they all log and they finally give up, I bring in 4 people and finish it and get phatty loot.
Yes, I'm a huge dick. This is on Spinebreaker if you want to look these guys up.
ur bad
Good riddance.
ur bad also
Oh Saban.
Hambo, are there still 30+ non-wipe deaths during your Karas, yes/no?
To be fair, from everything I've known Aldors roll need on the Aldor item, Scryers roll need on the Scryers item, and you either pass or greed (if there happens to be none of the opposing side) on the item that's not on your faction. This is how it's worked with PuGs without even having to set it up before hand, though maybe it's a Ravenholdt thing.
Oh boy, I guess I have troubles to look forward to once I hit 70, because greeding all scryer/aldor rep items is the only sensible thing to do, and I intend to do so myself.
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
edited March 2008
So, patch tomorrow?
I say it's still too early and give it another week at the absolute earliest, two tops.
Still, others seem more optimistic. And if that's the case, wow. Seven more months (at least, going on the November speculation for the xpac) without a new content patch? Methinks not.
would it really hurt blizzard to say "not next week" every week
I mean it wouldn't take that long right
I just expect that it's not going live unless;
A) The PTRs are down.
We get a post in the WoW General forums stating that there will be "Extended Maintenance" for all realms tomorrow.
C) They actually say the damned patch is out.
Now, we got the pre-patch download a week or two ago, and they seem to be pretty happy with the raid content testing, which was a big thing. I wouldn't be surprised to see it tomorrow, but I wouldn't be shocked if they held off another week or two either.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
In anything but a group with friends I'd say everyone greeds. Everyone greeds all the other greens so tomes/armaments should be the same. It's not my fault you haven't worked your way to exalted yet.
I'd like it to drop this week or next, because one of our main tanks is going away for TWO WEEKS next month and last night I realized this and was suddenly terrified of doing progression raids without him. At least we have a DPS warrior with good tanking gear and skills who can fill in, but meh.
would it really hurt blizzard to say "not next week" every week
I mean it wouldn't take that long right
le sigh
I lurk in that thread....and those boys ain't the sharpest tools in the shed if you get my meaning. And I'm guessing that sounds pretty Texan for a transplanted Yankee.
it's just this endless debate that isn't a debate, but REP RAGE
And it really sucks with the way they're distributed through instances. Shadow Lab is nothing but aldor items, and then there's three Tempest Keep instances which drop a mix of both. One of the two reps is going to make out better but beyond that, a person could get screwed because they really need either Lower City or Sha'tar rep, so they need to run one of the two and end up getting stiffed on the Aldor/Scryer items because their group doesn't allow universal greeding.
Well, just logged into the PTR, and as of right now, it's still up. I haven't really paid attention in previous patches to how many hours before maintenance they take it down, though.
it's just this endless debate that isn't a debate, but REP RAGE
Yeah. The hide of the beast had the added skinning skill being necessary on top of that though. These items just randomly drop and no one has to do anything special.
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I say it's still too early and give it another week at the absolute earliest, two tops.
Still, others seem more optimistic. And if that's the case, wow. Seven more months (at least, going on the November speculation for the xpac) without a new content patch? Methinks not.
C'mon new talents...
This is my realism rather than my pessimism talking, but, knowing Blizzard's track record, is there any way that WOTLK is NOT delayed until January ?
And I wouldn't sweat the Aldor/Scryer drop stuff. If you do all of the Netherstorm quest lines plus farm a bit in Shadowmoon Valley, you reach Exalted with either faction almost by accident.
I have done every quest, farmed Legion hold briefly(And traded the marks/armaments) and run Tempest Keep quite a few times and I'm only halfway through revered with Scryers.
I am Revered with Aldor, I haven't done the quests, I have a bunch of Fel Armaments and Mark of Sargeras' in my bank. My guild leader keeps sending them to me since she is scryer. But I plan on holding onto them until after I do the quests.
edit: Most of repping up for me was solo grinding as a protection warrior.
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It was gaaaay.
"But I can trade it for an Arcane tome!"
Fine.
I'm rolling need on everything. We'll see how many instances I get into after claiming "But I can totally use the enchanting mats/gold!"
yeah this
are all you other people insane or
Its so easy to turn Arcane Tomes into Fel Armaments that its no big deal over who gets it.
Who?
And you're on Sarg?
Those were the guilds of the people in JAEF's amusing chatlog, but I'm an idiot and thought he was on Sarg instead of Spinebreaker. I'm actually on Shadowsong.
The guilds in JAEF's conversation apparently are just barely getting into T5 content, one of them having skipped Mag entirely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgg9fQwY-0Q&eurl=http://www.wowinsider.com/
Good riddance.
ur bad also
Hambo, are there still 30+ non-wipe deaths during your Karas, yes/no?
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Oh boy, I guess I have troubles to look forward to once I hit 70, because greeding all scryer/aldor rep items is the only sensible thing to do, and I intend to do so myself.
I say it's still too early and give it another week at the absolute earliest, two tops.
Still, others seem more optimistic. And if that's the case, wow. Seven more months (at least, going on the November speculation for the xpac) without a new content patch? Methinks not.
C'mon new talents...
I can't find confirmation of this right now.
would it really hurt blizzard to say "not next week" every week
I mean it wouldn't take that long right
le sigh
so if you bought your way to exalted, your reward is to let other people have all the tomes/armaments for free rep / to make money off of?
or maybe 3-4 smaller, less expensive hides that drop every now and again
and it's not skinning but a green drop
wait
I just expect that it's not going live unless;
A) The PTRs are down.
C) They actually say the damned patch is out.
Now, we got the pre-patch download a week or two ago, and they seem to be pretty happy with the raid content testing, which was a big thing. I wouldn't be surprised to see it tomorrow, but I wouldn't be shocked if they held off another week or two either.
In anything but a group with friends I'd say everyone greeds. Everyone greeds all the other greens so tomes/armaments should be the same. It's not my fault you haven't worked your way to exalted yet.
it's just this endless debate that isn't a debate, but REP RAGE
I lurk in that thread....and those boys ain't the sharpest tools in the shed if you get my meaning. And I'm guessing that sounds pretty Texan for a transplanted Yankee.
And it really sucks with the way they're distributed through instances. Shadow Lab is nothing but aldor items, and then there's three Tempest Keep instances which drop a mix of both. One of the two reps is going to make out better but beyond that, a person could get screwed because they really need either Lower City or Sha'tar rep, so they need to run one of the two and end up getting stiffed on the Aldor/Scryer items because their group doesn't allow universal greeding.
because the community as a whole sucks giant donkey dicks
Yeah. The hide of the beast had the added skinning skill being necessary on top of that though. These items just randomly drop and no one has to do anything special.
And I wouldn't sweat the Aldor/Scryer drop stuff. If you do all of the Netherstorm quest lines plus farm a bit in Shadowmoon Valley, you reach Exalted with either faction almost by accident.
It takes fucking forever.
rep grinds are stupid and I hate them
edit: Most of repping up for me was solo grinding as a protection warrior.