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DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey. I'm really not sure what I can say that will properly introduce this, so I'm just going to dive into the thick of it.

For the longest time I haven't quite felt right. Like something was very wrong with me or perhaps some detail of my life was askew. I remember that when I was younger, I would secretly play with dolls whenever I could and at night when no one was around I would fantasize for hours about what it would be like to be a little girl. I've read a lot of things about this, about sexuality and gender identity, and honestly my mind is just about wrecked.

I look at men and I'm attracted to them as a woman (possibly as a man). I look at women and I'm attracted to them as a man. (or possibly a woman) And to be perfectly honest, I just have no idea what I should be doing. My family is extremely conservative, and I'm pretty afraid to talk to them about it. My grandma's from Arkansas and she's religious. Ann Coulter is my stepmom's hero, Sean Hannity my dad's. They watch fox news.

The short end of it is that I might be gay or bisexual or something entirely different and I'm not sure what I want, who I could talk to, why this is happening, how I could be happy, or you know, to hell with it, I'm just not sure about anything right now.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    The last thing you want to do is talk to your family about it, at least until you've got it figured out. If they're as conservative as you've described, then odds are they won't understand it at all.

    Do you have any friends that would be a little more open-minded about your situation that you could talk to? You're 21, so you ought to have some outside friends from work or school that might be able to help you out.

    If it turns out that you are gay or bisexual or just have some gender issues, just roll with it. As much as Religious/Conservative America would like you to believe that if you aren't a herterosexual you've got the Devil in you, the bottom line is there is nothing to be ashamed of. I've known a few people who have been in the same spot, and have been more than a little confused, but they've felt like something was "wrong" with them, when in reality something wasn't wrong it was just different. Make sure that you understand that first and formost.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'd see if you can't find some gay/bi support groups in your area to find someone to talk to. No-one is going to try and convert you or anything, but they might understand the feelings that you have and allow you to help properly elucidate your thoughts.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Just going to chime in that despite what some people think, there's nothing "wrong" with you. And most people don't know what they want out of life so don't feel alone there either.

    I know most colleges have GLBT resources, if you're in school. And i've seen this website mentioned before - http://www.pflag.org/.


    Good luck dude.

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  • X3x3nonX3x3non Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    May I ask how old you are right now? If you are still in high school, just wait to leave home when you go to college. This will be a time when you are away from home and can start with a blank slate to experiment and discover your feelings. There is nothing wrong with you and there are certainly other people out there that feel the same way you do.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm 21. I'll be 22 in April. Is it possible to "just have gender issues"?

    One of my biggest fantasies is that sometime in my life medical technology will allow me to live as the woman I've always wanted to be. Edit: And I'm not talking about having a surgery and taking hormones. It's too late for that. I'd be the ugliest woman that ever lived. I'm talking about something akin to full body prosthesis. Or you know, a neural-impacting simulation program. (ala the matrix)

    *Sigh* That looks so fucked up now that I'm reading it.

    Is that what you'd call "Gender issues?"

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  • UncleChetUncleChet N00b Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Finding somoene to talk to will be a big help. If you're attending college, then look into one of the GLBT support groups there. If you're in high school, try to manage as best you can untill you graduate. It's tough growing up "different". If you just need to chat pop on to here, the folks here can help and at the very least, listen to what you have to say. Speaking as a somewhat adjusted gay man, there's nothing "Wrong" with you, you may just be wired a little differently.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm 21. I'll be 22 in April. Is it possible to "just have gender issues"?

    One of my biggest fantasies is that sometime in my life medical technology will allow me to live as the woman I've always wanted to be.

    Is that what you'd call "Gender issues?"

    1) probably. But i'm a str8 dude. I have no clue.

    2) BEHOLD! THE FUTURE IS NOW! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery

    3) no clue. I will bet $ that there are GLBT-friendly councilors you can talk with in your area.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Whatever you do, don't let your parents (misguided) beliefs convince you that you're somehow wrong or sick. You're neither.

    It's perfectly okay to have gender issues... and though it's hard, and I imagine it will be very hard for you given the family situation... it's the act of trying to resist those issues that usually cause people the most grief.

    Definitely try to find a support group in your area, and gain confidence through them before confronting the folks.

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  • NateVaderNateVader Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    One of my biggest fantasies is that sometime in my life medical technology will allow me to live as the woman I've always wanted to be. Edit: And I'm not talking about having a surgery and taking hormones. It's too late for that. I'd be the ugliest woman that ever lived. I'm talking about something akin to full body prosthesis. Or you know, a neural-impacting simulation program. (ala the matrix)

    Sexual fantasy or regular fantasy? Does being a woman turn you on or is that just something you'd like to be as a whole?

    The being a woman thing and the being attracted to both men and women are two separate "issues." Maybe you're bi, maybe you're straight-curious, maybe you're gay. Who knows, that's easy to figure out over time.

    The fantasizing about being a woman is another totally separate issue. Gay men don't fantasize about being women (usually). It could be a variety of issues.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    PirateJon wrote: »
    I'm 21. I'll be 22 in April. Is it possible to "just have gender issues"?

    One of my biggest fantasies is that sometime in my life medical technology will allow me to live as the woman I've always wanted to be.

    Is that what you'd call "Gender issues?"

    1) probably. But i'm a str8 dude. I have no clue.

    2) BEHOLD! THE FUTURE IS NOW! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery

    3) no clue. I will bet $ that there are GLBT-friendly councilors you can talk with in your area.

    I'm 6'4. I'm a hairy scottsman. I've already gone through puberty as a male. I'm larger in build than most men. Sex reassignment is out of the question.

    Edit:
    Sexual fantasy or regular fantasy? Does being a woman turn you on or is that just something you'd like to be as a whole?

    Regular fantasy. Well, kind of both in a way. But the fantasy itself is not sexual at all. It's just something I want to be.

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  • chuck steakchuck steak Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aren't there places you can go where men dress up as women and whatnot? Or would that really not satisfy these desires?

    Whatever you do though, don't let anybody tell you something is wrong with you. It's quite the opposite actually, people who think that have something wrong with them.

    Do you know anybody who is gay/bi? Find groups or bars where you can just be yourself and have social interaction without worrying about fitting in or what people think of you.

    I wish you the best of luck though. It can't be easy dealing with this (especially with a family that will never understand).

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  • NateVaderNateVader Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Gay bars are meat markets, so don't count on making steadfast friendships there. I'd see about some sort of group dealing with gender confusion or something similar. Do some googling. A GLBT center probably hosts groups and has people you could talk to if you live near some sort of city.

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  • UncleChetUncleChet N00b Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It definately sounds like you have gender identity issues. Playing with dolls and doing "dress up" are things that we associate with being female, and feminine, so it would make sense if these things were appealing to you. If you try, you should be able to find support for gender curious people some where on the web. I can assure you that you're not the only one, and if you look for it, help is there. I'd do some searching for you but I'm at work and that would be frowned upon. G'Luck though.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I guess I have a bit of searching and thinking to do. I'll find a group. Talk to friends. Something.

    I really didn't expect the kind of response I got. Private messages, nothing but words of encouragement. Thank you all so much.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Update:

    So I figured out what I need to figure out. Somehow, though, it made its way down the grape vine. My parents found out from some unknown source. And while not overtly hostile, they have become very coldly distant.

    At the same time, as if by some cruel joke, my aunt (whom I was living with) told me to get the hell out of her house for some reason, leaving me entirely homeless. I live in a rural area, about 15-20 miles away from a city of 100,000 or so, but I dont really have any transport.

    For the last few weeks I've been trying to get a job in this city, but for one reason or another it just hasn't been happening. My dad was helping me out by taking me into town for interviews, career fairs, and to apply, but it's not going to happen anymore.

    My question is: Homeless shelter or no? And if not, then what? If I'm going to go to a shelter, It'll allow me to be a lot more dilligent in my job search, because I'll be right in there. At least that's my estimation. I'm told that I have no idea what I'm in for, but I can't see how I have any other choice.

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    My question is: Homeless shelter or no? And if not, then what? If I'm going to go to a shelter, It'll allow me to be a lot more dilligent in my job search, because I'll be right in there. At least that's my estimation. I'm told that I have no idea what I'm in for, but I can't see how I have any other choice.
    If you don't have a friend whose couch you can crash on, then a shelter might be your only option in the short term. Beyond the short term, it's definitely likely that you'll want to get out of the shelters, they're apparently very not fun places. The Survival Guide to Homelessness has some really good tips.

    Edit: Also, dude... that really sucks, I hope it works out somehow.

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    If you have even a little cash, try to get into a hostel at least. Homeless shelters are to be your very last-ditch option, and even then... sleep with one eye open.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Depending on what part of the country you’re in, I have a lot of gay/trans activist friends who might be able to get you help. PM me your email address and what part of the country you live in and I’ll ask around.

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Would couch surfing work? I don't know much about it, I just read an article about it recently. Here's the main couch surfing website:

    http://www.couchsurfing.com/

    It's not meant to be long term, but if there were enough people and you could just stay a night or two per house . . . Just a random idea. I hope everything works out for you.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    LadyM wrote: »
    Would couch surfing work? I don't know much about it, I just read an article about it recently. Here's the main couch surfing website:

    http://www.couchsurfing.com/

    It's not meant to be long term, but if there were enough people and you could just stay a night or two per house . . . Just a random idea. I hope everything works out for you.

    I'm not sure that's really feasible. It's a nice thought, but I dont think it's something I could or should use. It seems to be some kind of...happiness/community activism? Something along those lines? Plus I dont wanna piss off someone in some town where I don't know anyone. I'd be really fucked, then.

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  • NakedZerglingNakedZergling A more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Sounds like gender identity issues. I have many gay friends, bi friends, and know a few transgendered people. You say you need to figure stuff out but to be honest it sounds like you already have and thats good. If this is serious it takes guts to admit it in some type of public forum even if we can hide behind screens.
    I know people are saying don't tell your parents, but i dunno if i agree with that. It's a decision you have to make. My friend is gay and didn't tell his father for a long time for fear of physical abuse. But he finally did, and though his dad isn't jumping for joy about it, he still loves his son. I have a co worker whose parents are ULTRA religious and he just finally came out to them, and things were akward..they still think it's a phase he'll go through, but they know.
    There are endless resources on-line and phone numbers you can call. People who have very specific experience with this who can guide you better than us here, but it's good that you have a place even if it's these message boards where people won't judge you and you can feel ok about who you are.

    Its gotta be rough for you and that sucks but i think you'll figure stuff out and be ok. Lets us know and i'm sure everyone here will be more than happy to listen if you have to talk.

    Good luck!

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