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Fox News' at it again; Blames 5 month old's death on games

Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually...{They/Them}Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Games and Technology
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331732,00.html
During the eight days the baby was strapped in the seat, both Hermann and Sargent were home, "playing video games, watching TV, feeding and caring for themselves,"

*Sigh* Once again, absolutely no evidence stating otherwise. It's just Fox twisting the truth to gain more hits as usual.

Also, the main page used to have this on it:

foxnewsgamersdie.jpg (Courtesy of Kotaku)

I wonder if I get a one way ticket to the middle of an ocean. I'm pretty sure this kind of crap doesn't go on in the marinelife community. (There's also no "reality" shows there to my knowledge)


Edit: In contrast, let's look at other news station's headlines for the story (courtesy of Kotaku):
Parents of 5-month-old face first-degree murder charges - Illinois Daily Herald
Parents Charged with Murder - Central Illinois Proud
Parents face first-degree murder in death of baby bound last week - WTHI News

No sign of video games there.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Won't somebody think of the children?

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    i dont think this is anywhere near as inflammatory as you seem to think it is. nowhere in the article you linked is there any video game bashing of any kind. might as well say " Fox News' at it again; Blames 5 month old's death on watching TV!" or " Fox News' at it again; Blames 5 month old's death on feeding and caring for yourself!"

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The story's not "VIDJA GAMES KILL BABIES". It just mentions, once, that they were playing videogames among other activities instead of picking up their baby. It's a statement of fact. Don't get your panties up in a bunch yet. :P

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I hate Fox News, yet I love House. Quite a dilemma.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    But they do specifically put the "story"'s title as "Parents Played as Baby Died" on their front page. No other reason why; they're just lazy parents who played games and watched TVs.

    I can hear those ambulance chasers now.

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  • RenegenRenegen Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Poor baby, apparently the parents ignored the kid for 8 days. I mean come on, 5 month old child, just left there? O_o
    1st degree murder charge.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    the facts of the story happen to tangentially involve video games, and the news story mentions this. the title of the story doesnt explicitly even mention video games. they are not implying a connection between video games and neglecting children. this is a total nonissue, find something that means anything to get enraged about next time.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    But they do specifically put the "story"'s title as "Parents Played as Baby Died" on their front page. No other reason why; they're just lazy parents who played games and watched TVs.

    I can hear those ambulance chasers now.

    Uh, I dunno about you, but that headline reads
    "Parents of Baby Left Alone in Car Seat for 8 Days Face Murder Charges"

    to me.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It's on the main page in bold letters.

    It got bumped down. Kotaku has a picture of it.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Um... I can't see that anywhere.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Even so, 'Parents Played' doesn't necessarily implicate that video games are at fault...or even that it was video games they were playing. Just that they were playing around, not caring for their child.

    There are dumb video game news stories, but this isn't really one.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    That's Kotaku's picture. Seems pretty definitive to me. They must've changed it later to the Played one.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    Seems pretty definitive to me. They must've changed it later to the Played one.

    Well now there's no mention of videogames anywhere on their main page. I guess somebody must've thrown a fit at them.

    Some of the other headlines are pretty hilarious/depressing, though.

    "Prep' or Porn? California mom horrified to read 'coming-of-age' novel presented in 12-year-old daughters's school reading program"

    "School Bans 'Assassin' Game in Wake of Shootings"

    "Monopoly Game Fuels Israeli-Palestinian Dispute"


    "Blast in the Heavens: Satellite Shootdown a Bull's-Eye
    -
    VIDEO: MASSIVE DEATH STAR-LIKE BLAST"

    "Study Concludes Some Women Do Not Have G-Spot"

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  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Take the bad with the good. Games can cause problems in the wrong hands of anyone, just like anything else on earth. Drumming up more traffic for something you think is over the top anyway is simply feeding fuel into the fire.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Certainly that headline is retarded, but the main article headline doesn't mention it and the arcticle itself doens't really have an anti-gaming agenda. Basically, this thread is doing what Fox News tends to do. Tempest, teakettle, etc.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, but it's pretty pathetic that Fox is trying to get hits by pulling this kind of crap. Perhaps I did overreact a bit, but we've had our pastime attacked so often for no reason at all.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    this thread is a a lot more understandable, now that i see the original story title.

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  • polaris314polaris314 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    Some of the other headlines are pretty hilarious/depressing, though.

    "Prep' or Porn? California mom horrified to read 'coming-of-age' novel presented in 12-year-old daughters's school reading program"

    Man, what? Do they still let students read "Raisin in the Sun" or similar books any more? There's some pretty heavy material in there, too, but I remember reading it in 7th or 8th grade (12-13 years old in the US). Out teachers/parents back then thought we were all able to handle it. At this rate, our kids will be reading Dr. Seuss until they're 18. Sorry for going off-topic.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, I should've posted that as well from the get-go. Still, I did blow it a bit out of proportion.

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  • ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    This happened in Peoria, Illinois, the town where I live. My wife couldn't read the news article it was so disturbing to her.

    And for the record, it wasn't written up by Fox News - it's an AP article and it's circulating in print and online media everywhere. Fox news reprinted it just like many other places did.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Fox news reprinted it just like many other places did.

    And are as such responsible for it.

    Edit: That is, it appearing on their website.

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  • ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    But it's not a fucking Fox thing, and that's the point. The AP story barely mentions games. Fox is really stupid about this stuff sometimes (ala Mass Effect) but this is not Fox being sensationalist.

    If you're going to call them out for it, you might as well say they're attacking food, since the article also quotes Kevin Lyons as saying they were feeding and caring for themselves those 8 days instead of their baby.

    "Parents of Baby Left Alone in Car Seat for 8 Days Face Murder Charges" - where the hell does Fox's headline say anything about video games?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    If I ever go on a murderous rampage I'm going to leave a note blaming Fox News.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    But it's not a fucking Fox thing, and that's the point. The AP story barely mentions games. Fox is really stupid about this stuff sometimes (ala Mass Effect) but this is not Fox being sensationalist.

    If you're going to call them out for it, you might as well say they're attacking food, since the article also quotes Kevin Lyons as saying they were feeding and caring for themselves those 8 days instead of their baby.

    "Parents of Baby Left Alone in Car Seat for 8 Days Face Murder Charges" - where the hell does Fox's headline say anything about video games?

    It was the headline on the front page for a few hours before it was changed.

    Which I don't see as a big deal, newsites often put a prelim headline up when they get news then change it later.

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Heh. It's Fox.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    But it's not a fucking Fox thing, and that's the point. The AP story barely mentions games. Fox is really stupid about this stuff sometimes (ala Mass Effect) but this is not Fox being sensationalist.

    If you're going to call them out for it, you might as well say they're attacking food, since the article also quotes Kevin Lyons as saying they were feeding and caring for themselves those 8 days instead of their baby.

    "Parents of Baby Left Alone in Car Seat for 8 Days Face Murder Charges" - where the hell does Fox's headline say anything about video games?

    Read the fucking thread. They changed the headline after people complained.

    Originally, it was "Video Gamers leave Baby to Die". If you can't see that one as completely fucking inappropriate and sensationalist, you have problems.

    foxnewsgamersdie.jpg


    As Kotaku said, they were watching TV too. Why not "TV Watchers Leave Baby To Die?" as a headline?

    I bet they ate food too, once or twice in that 8 days. Why not "Food Eaters Leave Baby to Die"?

    It's simply an utterly ridiculous, misleading, sensationalist, and outright malicious headline.

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  • ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yah, if they used that headline then that was a moronic decision. Apologies.

    In my defense, the OP was never updated so I just immediately replied to him and then replied to replies to me. It happens all the time.

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  • unknownsome1unknownsome1 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Regardless of what the headline originally said, Fox News did not actually blame video games for the death of that child. The original article title "Video Gamers Leave Baby to Die" doesn't necessarily blame video games for the crime. The parents were video gamers and they left their baby to die.

    Anyway, I hope those two parents rot in hell for what they did. If they didn't want to take care of their child, then they could have just given the baby up for adoption.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Recoil42 wrote: »
    But it's not a fucking Fox thing, and that's the point. The AP story barely mentions games. Fox is really stupid about this stuff sometimes (ala Mass Effect) but this is not Fox being sensationalist.

    If you're going to call them out for it, you might as well say they're attacking food, since the article also quotes Kevin Lyons as saying they were feeding and caring for themselves those 8 days instead of their baby.

    "Parents of Baby Left Alone in Car Seat for 8 Days Face Murder Charges" - where the hell does Fox's headline say anything about video games?

    Read the fucking thread. They changed the headline after people complained.

    Was there a press release I haven't read confirming this or something?

    The much more mundane explanation was that the headline was typed up quickly to be added to the site then later on they changed it as they actually read the thing in full.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Regardless of what the headline originally said, Fox News did not actually blame video games for the death of that child. The original article title "Video Gamers Leave Baby to Die" doesn't necessarily blame video games for the crime. The parents were video gamers and they left their baby to die.

    Anyway, I hope those two parents rot in hell for what they did. If they didn't want to take care of their child, then they could have just given the baby up for adoption.
    Yeah they just happened to be gamers that let their child die of neglect, you're right. But tell me would it have also not been a big deal or offensive, if it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die"? I mean those could have been true as well right?

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Regardless of what the headline originally said, Fox News did not actually blame video games for the death of that child. The original article title "Video Gamers Leave Baby to Die" doesn't necessarily blame video games for the crime. The parents were video gamers and they left their baby to die.

    Anyway, I hope those two parents rot in hell for what they did. If they didn't want to take care of their child, then they could have just given the baby up for adoption.
    Yeah they just happened to be gamers that let their child die of neglect, you're right. But tell me would it have also not been a big deal or offensive, if it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die"? I mean those could have been true as well right?

    They might have used "Gay couple" because that's a big distinction since there aren't very many same sex relationships with children.

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  • Black IceBlack Ice Charlotte, NCRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
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  • unknownsome1unknownsome1 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah they just happened to be gamers that let their child die of neglect, you're right. But tell me would it have also not been a big deal or offensive, if it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die"? I mean those could have been true as well right?

    If it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die" that would have been unnecessary and dumb. Perhaps the original title "Video Gamers Leave Baby to Die" wasn't necessary but it's not a big deal. It got changed since editors probably realized the headline could've been done better.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah they just happened to be gamers that let their child die of neglect, you're right. But tell me would it have also not been a big deal or offensive, if it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die"? I mean those could have been true as well right?

    If it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die" that would have been unnecessary and dumb. Perhaps the original title "Video Gamers Leave Baby to Die" wasn't necessary but it's not a big deal. It got changed since editors probably realized the headline could've been done better.
    It implies that video gaming has a causal relationship to shitty parenting. It's dumb for the same reasons those other headlines would have been dumb.

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  • SueveSueve Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Black Ice wrote: »
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    Thats terrible.

    and awesome.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    FreddyD wrote: »
    Yeah they just happened to be gamers that let their child die of neglect, you're right. But tell me would it have also not been a big deal or offensive, if it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die"? I mean those could have been true as well right?

    If it said "Blacks Leave Baby to Die" or "Gays Leave Baby to Die" that would have been unnecessary and dumb. Perhaps the original title "Video Gamers Leave Baby to Die" wasn't necessary but it's not a big deal. It got changed since editors probably realized the headline could've been done better.
    It implies that video gaming has a causal relationship to shitty parenting. It's dumb for the same reasons those other headlines would have been dumb.
    Thank you.

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