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Of speeding tickets...

DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
I recieved a speeding ticket tonight, but it was the oddest occourance with an officer I have ever had...

I was in north carolina (I live in virginia, and was heading back home) He pulls me over, and asks very very strange questions, seemed kinda rookieish, which may explain the rest of this. At the end of the stop, he tells me after handing me my copy of the ticket, that I have to appear in court on such and such a date, he will not bother showing up, and tells me to leave. I ask him if theres a way to prepay since im out of state, and he states no, becuase I was going over 70 I have to appear. He states that itill just be cheaper to show up anyways. He then tells me to leave, again. I look at the ticket later, the entire back is not filled out (this includes my options to respond, court only or mail in, the actual amount I have to pay, and my signature).

Anyone have any experience with tickets like this? In virginia, if you refuse to sign the ticket, your taken into custody immediately. I was never told I needed to sign and was ignorant of what was on the back of the ticket when he handed to me (it was folded up in thirds). I know I wont be in trouble for that, but thats a little bit more paranoia then I care to deal with.

Ive read up that essentially since its 15 over, my ability to drive in north carolina will be suspended, and VA DMV might be notified. With all the fuck ups with my ticket, Im now worried that something could happen in my state to affect my liscence.

What are the chances this will be thrown out without even having to appear? I plan on calling the court monday morning. 2 Hours drive each way makes for 4 hours lost work, I guarantee whatever amount they would discount for appearing wouldnt match that pay(along with looking bad to the office).

Im trying to figure out if I should convince them to let me send in the cash for it(in order to avoid having to appear), or looking into having the ticket droped ahead of time (although, since the tickets made on cops reciept, I would think this isnt possible), but risk being told I have to show up to have the ticket removed from my record.

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  • King ErikKing Erik Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm not all to great on politicing, and I've drunk my fair share for the night, but I do believe you should show up for court, show the judge your ticket, tell the judge all that was said between you and the officer. I would not be surprised if the judge dismisses the case or lowers the fine because of the officer's lousy attention to the ticket he was writing and the things he said.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    H/A has a huge number of ticket threads, go read them and you'll find out more than you wanted to know. If you want more specific advice you should get this moved over there where it should have been in the first place.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Im sure if I wanted to argue I could get the entire thing droped, especially if the officer does not show up. (in VA, if you question the item, and the person who wrote it can not defend it, then its dropped. Its the major argument against traffic cameras at the moment, since, you cant question them)

    Im really pulling for the not having to show up at all though, paying at this point would be worth it to make it go away.

    Relooking at the ticket, it dosent say what ordinance I broke, it just says that I did 73 in a 55, with no check box marked for what area and statute I broke.... Also he marked a red box, which means there was an additional violation, but the additional violation was not marked (I had expired plates, I am taking care of them this morning, I knew they were expired becuase I had just gotten a ticket a week before for it and that was the first I knew about it, and today is the soonest it can be taken care of).

    edit: I thought about H/A, but since I know mainly what is going to happen/what I need to do, I thought it would be better here. If I need something moved, should I just report the original post myself?

    double edit: Can another state write me a ticket for expired plates, considering that its essentially a tax in the first place to have up to date plates, and not a safety concern?

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  • fallaxdracofallaxdraco Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It seems to me that he specifically told you he wouldn't show up so that he could do his job (ticket you as is apparently mandated since you were going so fast) without having to screw you over too badly, since you can just get it thrown out.

    That is, he helped you get it thrown out because he didn't want to be a bastard. I could be misunderstanding this, but it seems that since you were above 70 you are required by law to appear, but you can get it thrown out after you appear.

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  • King ErikKing Erik Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    That's a possiblity, but this is not a court, a small baby debate threat and the officer is not here to defend himself.So anything is possible.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It seems to me that he specifically told you he wouldn't show up so that he could do his job (ticket you as is apparently mandated since you were going so fast) without having to screw you over too badly, since you can just get it thrown out.

    That is, he helped you get it thrown out because he didn't want to be a bastard. I could be misunderstanding this, but it seems that since you were above 70 you are required by law to appear, but you can get it thrown out after you appear.

    Seems to me this is a case of he wrote me the ticket for over 70 in order to screw me over to make me drive 4 hours to show up to get it thrown out, instead of writing it for a lesser charge or not writing one at all.

    I dont think a ticket can be "mandated"(or avoided from being set until its written). Of course im out of state so I dont know their specfic procedure. I know in VA if the officer dosent do paperwork like this properly on a stop, its a major fuck up on his part, as this is the ho hum section of his duty(I wont pretend to be an expert, I was a police explorer(its like rotc for cops, or boy scounts for cops) when I was younger, and have done some of the paperwork that they have to fill out, it sucks and they get in trouble for not filling things out correctly.)

    I realize now that I told him the wrong age (Im over 21 I stoped keeping track, I dont celebrate my birthday, and I suck at math), and my left sleeve smells like beer becuase someone at the concert spilled it on the sleeve. So I dont know if that was noticed, and thats why I got strange behavior (I dont really drink, I had a beer like 6 hours before, so I wasnt drunk at the time and I dont drive drunk).

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  • Phooka1976Phooka1976 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    This is how tickets work in USA...

    Well first off how do you know this information Phooka? Are you some kind of expert?

    I am glad you asked... Yes. I have taken a lot of driving courses and all the instructors that know the current laws and regulations all say the same thing.

    Any ticket you get or any points you get do not count if they are not in your current state. If money is not a issue and you don't mind forking over a couple of hundred bucks then see if you can send it in. Otherwise go to court nothing will happen. You can't get your license taken away or any points because of the ticket because you live in a different state. Sending in the ticket though will mean you will have to plead guilty and get royally fucked on the charge. It would be cheaper to go in but if its to much of a hassle just see if you can send it in. Your license will be fine trust me.

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  • Mom2KatMom2Kat Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    In BC I had a traffic ticket for an unsafe lane change. The cop said it would be a good idea to dispute it. Here that means you go to court instead of paying. Usually they make an announcment before starting that they are busy so if you want to pay a reduced fine and take half the points then to speak up. I was going to do it but my mother said not to. Just as they are getting to the first one I am called out by one of my local cops (my french teachers husband) The cop who gave me the ticket did not appear so it was being dropped. That could be what the cop was saying. If you decide to dispute then he probably won't show up and it will be dropped for you. The one who gave me my ticket was very sure to make sure that I contested this one. It was kinda a bunk ticket and he planned to not show up so I would not have to pay it.

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