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Buying stock?

kathoskathos Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So I wanted to buy some stock, I have around $100 to play with. But I know nothing about buying stock.

Is there a guide somewhere I could look through (or someone I could talk to in Toronto, and tips would help greatly.

For the record, I have RRSPs, mutual funds etc, so this $100 is completely disposal income. And I live in Ontario, Canada (Toronto).

Thanks!

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  • HiroconHirocon Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    That's not a lot of money to invest in stocks. Fees will eat that right up. Say you invest through ShareBuilder, which charges $4.00 per scheduled trade. Then even if you buy just one stock (giving you poor diversification), you still take a 4% loss immediately.

    If you can save up $2500 and invest in stocks through Zecco then you can get ten free trades per month.

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  • lordswinglordswing Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    There's always penny stocks, but yeah, you might as well just put that into a savings account for now until you have a few grand to "play" with in stocks.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aye, and if you can, take my advice that I learned the hard way: Penny Stocks, in general, are no good.

    I learned about 1500 bucks worth of that lesson a few months ago (ironically, a month or so after Thanatos and I had a bit of a mini-debate on whether it was better to put money in the stock market or in an IRA... a debate that, in retrospect, I realize he was entirely correct on). Since that body blow to the wallet, I've had a solid change of heart in my opinion on the intelligence of purchasing penny stocks, as well as my own intelligence up to this point in my life.

    But I digress... don't learn it the same way I did. Try to keep out of the penny stocks.

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  • lordswinglordswing Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm guessing it's better to put money into an IRA? The Roth IRA I have now, i've lost ~$450 of the initial $4k. I'm hoping that's going up sometime.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aye, it's really bound to go back up. I mean, unless something truly disastrous happens like the collapse of a monetary-based economy. But if that happens, the money would've been rendered useless anyways.

    As the economy grows (and inevitably, over a long period of time, it does), so will the value of (stable) stocks/mutual bonds/etc... and therefore, so will your IRA.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    No online brokerage firm, online or not, will allow you to open up an account of $100 as far as I know. Most that I've seen have a minimum account of $1000.

    Now, don't take that as a deterrent. You may want to just put it in a savings account, add a little, and then eventually once you've gotten around ~$2000 then you can fiddle around. But take it seriously, stay constantly informed, never, ever, ever invest in penny stocks, diversify your assets across different companies and industries in general, and have a little bit of patience.

    As it is right now, February~April is looking like a bear market, so you could find some bargains.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    lordswing wrote: »
    I'm guessing it's better to put money into an IRA? The Roth IRA I have now, i've lost ~$450 of the initial $4k. I'm hoping that's going up sometime.
    Welcome to the past year. :P

    If it makes you feel any better, I just got the annual report on my domestic high-yield contrarian fund, and the growth on that was 1.3%. My savings account did substantially better. :P However, the three-year APR on that fund is 9.5%, the five-year APR is 13.5%, and the ten-year APR is around 11%. Since it's a Roth IRA, you're in it for the long-term; worrying about having a bad year (and the past year has been exceptionally bad) is just gonna give you ulcers. If you think the fund is a genuine loser, you might want to pull out, but most of these high-yield funds (which is where you should be) are gonna have years like that.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aren't there really good online savings accounts that you can open up with interest rates way higher than normal banks?

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  • Limp mooseLimp moose Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    You could buy into a mutual fund. I put 300$ into mine every month (ontop of maxing out IRAs) and the USAA fund im in (overseas growth fund) made about 25% this year.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Aren't there really good online savings accounts that you can open up with interest rates way higher than normal banks?
    "Way higher" is a relative term, but yes. WaMu's online savings account gives rates slightly better than ING Direct's Orange savings account. There are others, too, but none of them stack up to a good mutual fund or index fund over the long term.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aye, and if you can, take my advice that I learned the hard way: Penny Stocks, in general, are no good.

    I learned about 1500 bucks worth of that lesson a few months ago (ironically, a month or so after Thanatos and I had a bit of a mini-debate on whether it was better to put money in the stock market or in an IRA... a debate that, in retrospect, I realize he was entirely correct on). Since that body blow to the wallet, I've had a solid change of heart in my opinion on the intelligence of purchasing penny stocks, as well as my own intelligence up to this point in my life.

    But I digress... don't learn it the same way I did. Try to keep out of the penny stocks.

    I think the best description of penny stocks that I've head is that they're for people who want to gamble but can't get to Atlantic City.

    If the OP is serious about getting into the market, he should look into mutual funds. American Funds are pretty good, and their A-class fees are only .54%, so he'll get most of his money invested.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aye, and if you can, take my advice that I learned the hard way: Penny Stocks, in general, are no good.

    I learned about 1500 bucks worth of that lesson a few months ago (ironically, a month or so after Thanatos and I had a bit of a mini-debate on whether it was better to put money in the stock market or in an IRA... a debate that, in retrospect, I realize he was entirely correct on). Since that body blow to the wallet, I've had a solid change of heart in my opinion on the intelligence of purchasing penny stocks, as well as my own intelligence up to this point in my life.

    But I digress... don't learn it the same way I did. Try to keep out of the penny stocks.

    I think the best description of penny stocks that I've head is that they're for people who want to gamble but can't get to Atlantic City.

    If the OP is serious about getting into the market, he should look into mutual funds. American Funds are pretty good, and their A-class fees are only .54%, so he'll get most of his money invested.

    Aye, in retrospect I think that's EXACTLY what was wrong with me. My whole family is really into gambling and I never liked the concept of it... but I eagerly jumped into the shark's pool of penny stocks with the same glee that my older brother would jump into a blackjack game.

    When it's penny stocks, it's as much gambling as if there were cards or dice involved. Possibly even worse, because there's some really crafty assholes out there who have ways of manipulating the price of those small-value stocks by spreading rumors and such. Basically making the whole well poisoned to begin with.

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