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Microsoft official Response on HD-DVD's demise

BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Games and Technology
Gamerscore wrote:
As a result of recent decisions made by Toshiba, Hollywood studios, and retailers, Microsoft plans to withdraw from HD DVD. Xbox will no longer manufacture new HD DVD players for the Xbox 360, but we will continue to provide standard product and warranty support for all Xbox 360 HD DVD Players in the market. As we stated earlier, we do not believe this decision will have any material impact on the Xbox 360 platform or our position in the marketplace. HD DVD is one of the several ways we offer a high definition experience to consumers and we will continue to give consumers the choice to enjoy digital distribution of high definition movies and TV shows directly to their living room, along with playback of the DVD movies they already own.

Just an FYI as obviously this isn't surprising.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Call me when they jump onboard with Blu-ray.

    Because if they put on a Blu-ray add-on, they will guarantee that I never buy a PS3. As of right now, it's looking pretty tempting.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I think Best Buy is selling them for $49 too.

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  • h8b1llg8tsh8b1llg8ts Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    I think Best Buy is selling them for $49 too.

    Selling what for $49? The HD DVD player??

    For $50 I might pick that up because I'm sure the HD DVD's are going to the $0.99 cent Store very soon too.

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  • LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8132095&st=HD+DVD&type=product&id=1158321865239

    Yeah. $49.

    I'm tempted to just buy a new one instead of sending my old one back to them to hopefully fix. Which I doubt they'll do.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    Legacy wrote: »
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8132095&st=HD+DVD&type=product&id=1158321865239

    Yeah. $49.

    I'm tempted to just buy a new one instead of sending my old one back to them to hopefully fix. Which I doubt they'll do.
    Gamerscore wrote:
    As a result of recent decisions made by Toshiba, Hollywood studios, and retailers, Microsoft plans to withdraw from HD DVD. Xbox will no longer manufacture new HD DVD players for the Xbox 360, but we will continue to provide standard product and warranty support for all Xbox 360 HD DVD Players in the market. As we stated earlier, we do not believe this decision will have any material impact on the Xbox 360 platform or our position in the marketplace. HD DVD is one of the several ways we offer a high definition experience to consumers and we will continue to give consumers the choice to enjoy digital distribution of high definition movies and TV shows directly to their living room, along with playback of the DVD movies they already own.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, I guess this means cheap HD-DVDs.
    Also means no new releases really.
    Kinda pissed I paid full price for the thing, I hardy use it.

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  • NikolisNikolis Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Hell yeah. I'm going to go pick this up at Circuit City right now. (My best buy doesn't have them in stock) For $50 you get the player, a copy of King Kong and the universal remote. Not a bad deal at all.

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  • LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Legacy wrote: »
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8132095&st=HD+DVD&type=product&id=1158321865239

    Yeah. $49.

    I'm tempted to just buy a new one instead of sending my old one back to them to hopefully fix. Which I doubt they'll do.
    Gamerscore wrote:
    As a result of recent decisions made by Toshiba, Hollywood studios, and retailers, Microsoft plans to withdraw from HD DVD. Xbox will no longer manufacture new HD DVD players for the Xbox 360, but we will continue to provide standard product and warranty support for all Xbox 360 HD DVD Players in the market. As we stated earlier, we do not believe this decision will have any material impact on the Xbox 360 platform or our position in the marketplace. HD DVD is one of the several ways we offer a high definition experience to consumers and we will continue to give consumers the choice to enjoy digital distribution of high definition movies and TV shows directly to their living room, along with playback of the DVD movies they already own.

    My warranty just expired. Though I submitted the request before it expired. Guess I should try.
    Nikolis wrote: »
    Hell yeah. I'm going to go pick this up at Circuit City right now. (My best buy doesn't have them in stock) For $50 you get the player, a copy of King Kong and the universal remote. Not a bad deal at all.

    The remote is awesome to have. Though, watch out if you have a laptop nearby that has an IR port. It controls my roommate's and if I hit the power button, will send it into standby.

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  • astroboyastroboy Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    How is it as an upscaling DVD player? (What does it upscale to?)

    I might pick one up if it's good enough.

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  • chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It's not great. Not bad, but not great. I mainly use mine to watch Serenity and Transformers in high def.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    chasm, what about Hot Fuzz? C'mon... Hot Fuzz!

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    edited February 2008
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  • emericanaemericana Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Holy shit.

    I was about to buy an upscaling DVD player...and now this is 50 bucks?

    Guys, PLEASE tell me it upscales standard DVDs. Does it even play standard DVDs? How's the image quality? If it's good, I'm making a beeline to my Best Buy.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Doesn't the 360 on it's own upscale DVDs?

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Wtf, why is the Add-on still 130$ in Canada? That's almost three times the american price.

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  • NikolisNikolis Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Just got mine. At Circuit City they hadn't knocked the price down so they checked online. Even after that they were still skeptical that it had been knocked down $130. After checking 2-3 computers and the website multiple times they submitted and handed it over saying "And here is your new play-thing!"

    Already checked amazon and HD-DVDs are already knocked down 50%. Heroes Season 1 is already down to 70 bucks but I'll wait and see if it goes any lower. No more new releases but an okay back catalog.

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  • BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    In all honesty I would just wait for the A2's to drop in price. My personal experience, I found the HD DVD Add on to be a pretty poor upscaler and a very poor HD DVD player, in comparison to the PS3 as a Blu-ray player.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
  • emericanaemericana Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    Doesn't the 360 on it's own upscale DVDs?

    It may with VGA or HDMI, but not on component.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    emericana wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Doesn't the 360 on it's own upscale DVDs?

    It may with VGA or HDMI, but not on component.

    But with the HD-DVD add on it will over component?

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  • emericanaemericana Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    emericana wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Doesn't the 360 on it's own upscale DVDs?

    It may with VGA or HDMI, but not on component.

    But with the HD-DVD add on it will over component?

    That's what I've heard, I was trying to confirm it before I go out and buy it. It looks like it does from what I've read looking around.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    That's cool of them, instead of just backing off it and not even offering support. Kudos.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Call me when they jump onboard with Blu-ray.

    Because if they put on a Blu-ray add-on, they will guarantee that I never buy a PS3. As of right now, it's looking pretty tempting.

    AFAIK an announcement about it being made is coming in the next couple of months.

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  • jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Must suck for the studios that have to remaster their films now. I wonder if there are any movies that will never see a blu ray release.

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    So it looks like Sony won. Hmm, I think celebrations are in order! Wheee!

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  • chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    You're like a one-note joke that never pays off.

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  • NikolisNikolis Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Just a quick question about 360 add-on player, to anyone who has it: When I put in King Kong, it still shows the black bars on the tops and bottom. I have a widescreen television, and when I watch a movie on an HD channel or a show in HD it fill up my whole screen. Does this vary from tv to tv, movie to movie, or does it have something to do with the 360 HD-DVD player?

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  • Atlus ParkerAtlus Parker Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Nikolis wrote: »
    Just a quick question about 360 add-on player, to anyone who has it: When I put in King Kong, it still shows the black bars on the tops and bottom. I have a widescreen television, and when I watch a movie on an HD channel or a show in HD it fill up my whole screen. Does this vary from tv to tv, movie to movie, or does it have something to do with the 360 HD-DVD player?

    Varies from movie to movie. King Kong is present in "super wide" which is 2.4:1. A widexcreen TV is around 1.8:1...I forget the exact ratio but it equates to 16:9. Look at the back of the case to see what format the movie is in.

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  • bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Nikolis wrote: »
    Just a quick question about 360 add-on player, to anyone who has it: When I put in King Kong, it still shows the black bars on the tops and bottom. I have a widescreen television, and when I watch a movie on an HD channel or a show in HD it fill up my whole screen. Does this vary from tv to tv, movie to movie, or does it have something to do with the 360 HD-DVD player?

    Its because the movies are keeping their theatrical aspect ratio.

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  • SuprMelOSuprMelO Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Nikolis wrote: »
    Just a quick question about 360 add-on player, to anyone who has it: When I put in King Kong, it still shows the black bars on the tops and bottom. I have a widescreen television, and when I watch a movie on an HD channel or a show in HD it fill up my whole screen. Does this vary from tv to tv, movie to movie, or does it have something to do with the 360 HD-DVD player?

    If I'm not mistaken, the movie is filmed at a 2.35:1 ratio, while your tv is probably a 1.77:1 (16:9) screen. So the movie is actually narrower than your tv, hence the bars. Some movies are shown at a 1.85:1 ratio, fills up a 16:9 tv. The movies on the HD channels are probably stretched to fit a 16:9 tv.

    I just picked up the hd-dvd add on a few minutes ago, so I'll be trying it out shortly.

    edit: beat'd twice

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  • Mace1370Mace1370 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Nikolis wrote: »
    Just a quick question about 360 add-on player, to anyone who has it: When I put in King Kong, it still shows the black bars on the tops and bottom. I have a widescreen television, and when I watch a movie on an HD channel or a show in HD it fill up my whole screen. Does this vary from tv to tv, movie to movie, or does it have something to do with the 360 HD-DVD player?

    Widescreen TVs have a 16:9 display ratio (ie: for every 16 inches wide it is 9 inches tall). Many movies, including King Kong, have 2.35:1 ratios. It is just how they are shot when the movie is being filmed. Some movies are cropped to be 16:9. Additionally, new HD TV shows are all shot in 16:9. It has nothing to do with your HD DVD player.

    edit: beat thrice

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    chasm wrote: »
    You're like a one-note joke that never pays off.

    I disagree, he is brilliantly funny most of the time. Sure, its for all the wrong reasons.

    Baseline 360 is probably the worst console ever for DVD playback. It looks terrible.

    This drive on the other hand? Really pretty good at HD-DVD playback.

    If you see it cheap, buy it. Might be a collector's item someday.

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  • LotharsLothars Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Wtf, why is the Add-on still 130$ in Canada? That's almost three times the american price.

    Yeah I was wondering that to because I would like to get it but I refuse to pay 130 bucks for it

    I really hope they drop it to 50 or so soon, because I want to get it for around 50 bucks.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    They need to make a blu ray add on, or a blu ray 360 to compete with the ps3.

    What I hate about the PS3 is that ok, beyond all the 599 olol shit, I've thought of getting one hypothetically ONLY as a fucking accessory if I bought a good HDTV. Because hey, if I'm gonna be getting a DVD player for a new tv, why not get the one that has MGS4? Exactly the stupid bullshit that moved PS2's with copies of Tekken fucking Tag.

    Microsoft better close that advantage pretty quickly. Like before I ever get myself a DLP.

    Which won't be for a while cause I'm a broke college student.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    Bamelin wrote: »
    In all honesty I would just wait for the A2's to drop in price. My personal experience, I found the HD DVD Add on to be a pretty poor upscaler and a very poor HD DVD player, in comparison to the PS3 as a Blu-ray player.

    Unless you're outputting VGA or HDMI, it's not upscaling. And as an HD-DVD player, the video quality is on par with standalones, which means it compares favorably with all Blu-ray players. There was never really discernible difference between HD-DVD and Blu-ray as far as picture quality went after the initial round of BD movies. (The first batch sucked because they were using MPEG-2.)

    Anyone claiming a noticeable difference in video quality between HD-DVD and Blu-ray is fooling himself.

    I'm bummed that HD-DVD died, inasmuch as I now need to pick up a PS3, but on the other hand, now I have an excuse to get a PS3, so I guess it evens out. And hopefully now that BD is the winner, the BD consortium will settle on a single goddamned feature set and start making players other than the PS3 that don't suck in one way or another.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    chasm wrote: »
    You're like a one-note joke that never pays off.

    I disagree, he is brilliantly funny most of the time. Sure, its for all the wrong reasons.

    Baseline 360 is probably the worst console ever for DVD playback. It looks terrible.

    This drive on the other hand? Really pretty good at HD-DVD playback.

    If you see it cheap, buy it. Might be a collector's item someday.

    How much do betamax decks go for?

    Sam on
  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Bamelin wrote: »
    In all honesty I would just wait for the A2's to drop in price. My personal experience, I found the HD DVD Add on to be a pretty poor upscaler and a very poor HD DVD player, in comparison to the PS3 as a Blu-ray player.

    Unless you're outputting VGA or HDMI, it's not upscaling. And as an HD-DVD player, the video quality is on par with standalones, which means it compares favorably with all Blu-ray players. There was never really discernible difference between HD-DVD and Blu-ray as far as picture quality went after the initial round of BD movies. (The first batch sucked because they were using MPEG-2.)

    Anyone claiming a noticeable difference in video quality between HD-DVD and Blu-ray is fooling himself.

    I'm bummed that HD-DVD died, inasmuch as I now need to pick up a PS3, but on the other hand, now I have an excuse to get a PS3, so I guess it evens out. And hopefully now that BD is the winner, the BD consortium will settle on a single goddamned feature set and start making players other than the PS3 that don't suck in one way or another.

    See that's the thing, I don't want to get duped into getting a PS3 (One exclusive game is not worth paying for it- no game is) but at the same time part of me thinks that it's a lot more elegant to get a whole new toy (and MGS4) than a USB accessory that isn't exactly mackin' styles.

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  • Nimble CatNimble Cat Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Lothars wrote: »
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Wtf, why is the Add-on still 130$ in Canada? That's almost three times the american price.

    Yeah I was wondering that to because I would like to get it but I refuse to pay 130 bucks for it

    I really hope they drop it to 50 or so soon, because I want to get it for around 50 bucks.

    It's 50 right now. Best Buy has it in stock on their website. Also, that 5 free movie deal might still be going on.

    I may pick one of these up as well.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    Nikolis wrote: »
    Just got mine. At Circuit City they hadn't knocked the price down so they checked online. Even after that they were still skeptical that it had been knocked down $130. After checking 2-3 computers and the website multiple times they submitted and handed it over saying "And here is your new play-thing!"

    Already checked amazon and HD-DVDs are already knocked down 50%. Heroes Season 1 is already down to 70 bucks but I'll wait and see if it goes any lower. No more new releases but an okay back catalog.

    Yeah, I picked up a drive on ebay late last week. $100 got me the drive, Heroes Season 1, Transformers and King Kong. And DeepDiscountDVD.com has tons on sale for $12.20.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    I sold my 360 HD-DVD player for $129 or something along those lines a few months ago, which was awesome because I had bought it on sale for $129 a few months previous.

    I'm really glad a I did, because the market value for the drive is going to freefall.I'm sad I'll miss out on all of the cheap HD-DVDs, but in all honesty I couldn't be happier that Blu-Ray "won". Now we only have one format to worry about, it's a superior format, and the people who currently own HD-DVD players will have an incredible amount of HD-DVDs selling for sub-DVD price in the next few months, so in a weird way everyone wins.

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