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Devry Takes 360s From Starving Children's Mouths
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Or, you know, something slightly milder. I made mention of this in the D&D chat thread when asked about my new sig, and was told by someone to bring it over here. So I'm going to tell you the same story I told them, with minor alterations for clarity...
Okay, for the past month I've been in this contest Devry's been hosting, a contest that no longer deserves to be named, and Morgan Webb's been advertising. A game concept-off, if you will. Come up with an idea for a video game, and then defend it from all the other entrants. For the whole month, I and literally EVERYONE ELSE in this contest was under the impression that Morgan would pick one of the ideas, and that person would win an Xbox 360. (Though there were some people who thought it would be based on votes, and there I came in third.) As such, fights occasionally broke out because of accusations of vote tampering (read: turning off the cookies and voting over and over).
So eventually, Morgan picks my idea as her favorite, and I get all excited because I thought I'd won the 360.
Key word 'thought'. Immediately upon my beginning celebration, the admin pops up- the first time he has in the entire contest- and posts:
That's right, I and everyone else went through a month of heated debate over our respective ideas, and then it turns out they buried something in the fine print to where the winner gets chosen out of a damned hat, making this entire thing utterly fucking pointless. I could have posted 'DUR HUR I WAT TOO SHOOT ME SOME ALIENS' and had exactly as good a chance of winning. My idea that I've fleshed out in my head for years has the same chance of winning as the person who used his entry to hit on Morgan, or the person who suggested "take turns designing cookies".
Now, I'm not mad at Morgan here. From what I now know, she's merely an observer to the proceedings and had, ultimately, no control beyond mentioning the contest on WebbAlert and picking out a couple games she liked. I blame Devry here, for running a contest so misleading that not a single entrant was able to correctly discern the method of selecting the winner, and making no effort to correct anyone until after the event everyone had thought was going to select the winner had already come to pass.
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mtvcdm, what is up with your sig? How did Devry U fuck you over?
Okay, for the past month I've been in this contest Devry's been hosting, a contest that no longer deserves to be named, and Morgan Webb's been advertising. A game concept-off, if you will. Come up with an idea for a video game, and then defend it from all the other entrants. For the whole month, I and literally EVERYONE ELSE in this contest was under the impression that Morgan would pick one of the ideas, and that person would win an Xbox 360. (Though there were some people who thought it would be based on votes, and there I came in third.) As such, fights occasionally broke out because of accusations of vote tampering (read: turning off the cookies and voting over and over).
So eventually, Morgan picks my idea as her favorite, and I get all excited because I thought I'd won the 360.
Key word 'thought'. Immediately upon my beginning celebration, the admin pops up- the first time he has in the entire contest- and posts:
Hey All, the XBox winning entry will be randomly chosen on or around 3/11. Best of luck!
That's right, I and everyone else went through a month of heated debate over our respective ideas, and then it turns out they buried something in the fine print to where the winner gets chosen out of a damned hat, making this entire thing utterly fucking pointless. I could have posted 'DUR HUR I WAT TOO SHOOT ME SOME ALIENS' and had exactly as good a chance of winning. My idea that I've fleshed out in my head for years has the same chance of winning as the person who used his entry to hit on Morgan, or the person who suggested "take turns designing cookies".
Now, I'm not mad at Morgan here. From what I now know, she's merely an observer to the proceedings and had, ultimately, no control beyond mentioning the contest on WebbAlert and picking out a couple games she liked. I blame Devry here, for running a contest so misleading that not a single entrant was able to correctly discern the method of selecting the winner, and making no effort to correct anyone until after the event everyone had thought was going to select the winner had already come to pass.
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Do you think if you attended Devry University they might teach you how they outsmarted you?
How does the fact that Devry University played you like a fiddle make you feel?
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Seckz plz?!
That said, I doubt there's anything much you can do about it.
No 200+ people failed to read the rules, what part(s) in the rules where confusing?
Who's fault is it if users themselves make up their own contest-rules?
Umm, sorry you were mislead, but it appears to all be there in black and white.
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Obviously you didn't do that. Therefor this is your fault (and the fault of 200 other people who didn't read the rules).
Devry is giving away 360s at random. You may or may not get one. Deal with it.
Or you can ABLOOBLOO to Morgan and her ridiculous man face.
Basically you're pissed at yourself and thanks to cognitive dissonance you can't be the one who made the mistake... it must be someone else!
Thanks for the heads up about the contest... looks like I still have time to submit my idea for a game about ambiguous statements and assumptions.
But not enough of an effort was made to let it be known that the method of selection was a random drawing. That's what I'm mad about. Morgan never mentioned it, the admin didn't mention it until Morgan had already picked her favorite, no mention was made on any page where contestants were congregating. Had they been running this properly, there would have been mention of being "entered into a drawing" on the main page, or an admin would have stepped in at any point in the last month to correct someone who was under the impression that it was merit-based.
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maybe that is why they are going to devry....
Because I don't see how
Is at all ambiguous.
^ What he said. At the top it says 'Win an XBox 360! - All game ideas will be entered for a chance to win! See complete rules.', which is pretty unambiguous to me.
Who would have corrected the various people debating game ideas btw? Did anyone ask the person directly or is just an assumption that adminstrators/mods on forums actually read and think over everything posted instead of just looking for violations of posting policy.
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They do this in commercials all the time. They strongly imply one thing, but at no point actually legally commit to that thing. Once, Ford promoted their LTD with the phrase "700 percent quieter". You could read a lot of things into that- 700% quieter than the previous Ford model, than a Chevy, etc. That's the clear implication.
What did they actually mean?
If that's the case wanna help me on my crusade against the the Mega Millions Lottery? They didn't draw my numbers and I feel cheated out of my $270,000,000!
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You know... sometimes it's best to just say "I was wrong" and be done with it. Your sig, this post, the need to convince others about someone else's wrong-doing in the face of your own mistake... all things crazy people do.
Here, I'll make a new line to make it even clearer:
*I am at fault for not reading the rules.
*Devry is at fault for implying the contest was merit-based and not making enough effort to inform mistaken contestants that it was not.
Also, I wonder how many of you guys posting 'look, here's where it says' would have noticed these passages, or read anything into them, had I not told you at the outset?
Everyone who entered the contest assumed that it was based on merit. But Devry didn't do anything legally, or morally wrong here. It's not their fault you didn't click on the link labeled "Read more about the sweepstakes here."
Go down to where it says "Prize Drawing:" in nice big bold letters.
Seriously, when you buy a car do you not read the fine print? When you get a warranty do you not read the fine print? When you get a job do you not read the fine print? The fine print is there for a reason, to make sure people don't assume things and end up being wrong about it. Sometimes fine print is misleading, but here it's nice, big, and bold. This is your bad, not theirs.
Sorry dude but "entered to win" means a raffle. It's pretty clearcut. It doesn't even mention there that an idea will be chosen as the best.
except they aren't. they made the rules plenty clear and i bet in the OP it says make sure you read the rules. it's then not their job to make sure every post reflected the actual rules, they probably didn't even look at the thread until that 1 moderator made his post.
It sucks, but at least you can say that you got picked as the best idea.
You probably feel a little bit foolish that you didn't make sure to understand the rules of the contest before participating. We all make stupid mistakes. Just sluff it off and take solace in the fact that you had the best idea (as picked by a manfaced jaw headed Morgan Webb).
Except you didn't.
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ok maybe I was rubbing salt in the wounds there.
Pro-tip:
Instead of being bitter. Go invest that energy in XNA or somthing and make your game a reality. Or continue to whine on message boards. It's up to you.
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I don't know what to say. You (and 200+ other people) didn't read the rules. You DID NOT have the 360 for 5 seconds. It never mentions anywhere that the 360 winner was from Morgan's pick or votes. It clearly states it's a contest.
To be a cliche, welcome to the real world. People aren't going to hold your hand and check up on everything you do to see if you're doing it right. Which you weren't.
This. Especially since it's a cool as hell idea, and you know some asshole will certainly be willing to rip it off.
So I put it out there, and now some guy probably WILL rip it off before I even find a programmer. Digipen's not exactly in my backyard, people.
You're preaching to the choir on that point, man. However, you could probably find some way to get it made--hell, a bunch of dudes from this very forum are well on their way to making a total conversion multiplayer mod for HL2 where a bunch of cowboys fight zombies, complete with what appears to be a drivable truck.
Again, my advise to you in three easy steps:
Get off your ass.
Stop bitching.
Go do something.
If you want to see your game become a reality look for some free mod tools or a simple game making utility. If you just want a 360 get a job or save your xmas money.
I'm not trying to be an asshole. I'm just trying to motivate you and help you realize that your current course of action is no action, and that you are spinning your wheels right now.
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