MotW 3/5/2008 - NEW FRONTIER special

jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid?NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
edited March 2008 in Graphic Violence
Cooke brings it again. The Batman versus Superman story would have been enough, but the Robin / Kid Flash team up, the Black Canary / Wonder Woman team-up, and the extras put it over the top.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    what

    the



    fuck




    one thing to keep in mind is that there's
    Warlock and The Magus

    but there is also

    Warlock and The Magus.

    Which I was wondering if they were going to address ever since The Phalanx started fighting the original Warlock.

    EDIT: Now that I've sat down and read it, it's not nearly as WTF as I thought. This was the first issue I picked up and when I was leafing through it I thought golden robot guy (Bastion, right?) was calling HIMSELF The Magus, while looking like the original cosmic The Magus. Still, same conclusion I guess - big evil technorganic evil.

    Also Penance would have been sweet if he
    actually threw the damn suit away. Sigh.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    dammit

    august on
    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Eh, we should use your thread instead, I've had too many of them.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    My MotW is the NEW FRONTIER SPECIAL. Cooke brings it again. The Batman versus Superman story would have been enough, but the Robin / Kid Flash team up, the Black Canary / Wonder Woman team-up, and the extras put it over the top.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, you beat me I'll just see if I can delete mine.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    NEW FRONTIER IMAGES (Spoiled for size more than actual spoilery stuff):
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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    is your WTF for X-Force a good wtf or a bad wtf

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    NEW FRONTIER IMAGES (Spoiled for size more than actual spoilery stuff):
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  • edited March 2008
    Penance doing it American History X style.

    Might wanna add NSF56 XD.
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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Do they explain how this fits in continuity? Or do they just ignore little things like the fact that Nitro's dead already?

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  • edited March 2008
    He never died right? Just tortured?

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Isn't Paul Jenkins writing the PENANCE miniseries? I'm guessing he's just ignoring any other established continuity, because that's just what he does.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor used Nitro to blow up Atlantis in the NAMOR miniseries, presumably killing him. Maybe it didn't though.

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  • edited March 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor killed him. Although I guess he may not really be dead, and Namor took him to Doctor Doom when they all went.

    Or it's one of those things, that when Nitro blows up he still survives despite it being impossible. It's his "power" after all.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Shamuuu wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor killed him. Although I guess he may not really be dead, and Namor took him to Doctor Doom when they all went.

    Or it's one of those things, that when Nitro blows up he still survives despite it being impossible. It's his "power" after all.
    Yes, but he was at the bottom of the ocean. The pressure would've crushed him.

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  • edited March 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Shamuuu wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor killed him. Although I guess he may not really be dead, and Namor took him to Doctor Doom when they all went.

    Or it's one of those things, that when Nitro blows up he still survives despite it being impossible. It's his "power" after all.
    Yes, but he was at the bottom of the ocean. The pressure would've crushed him.

    It's magic!

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    is your WTF for X-Force a good wtf or a bad wtf

    Now that I actually read it it's not nearly as wtf.

    Still, unexpected plot element.

    At least I think so - I didn't read 1.

    august on
    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    concerning green lantern.

    that Atrocitus dude
    is just a regular red lanter right, he's not the "guardian" per se of the red lanterns?

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor used Nitro to blow up Atlantis in the NAMOR miniseries, presumably killing him. Maybe it didn't though.
    Well the thing to remember is that at the end of the Namor mini-series, Namor hooked up with Doom.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    concerning green lantern.

    that Atrocitus dude
    is just a regular red lanter right, he's not the "guardian" per se of the red lanterns?

    That's how I read it, yeah.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor used Nitro to blow up Atlantis in the NAMOR miniseries, presumably killing him. Maybe it didn't though.
    Well the thing to remember is that at the end of the Namor mini-series, Namor hooked up with Doom.
    As if DOOM would lower himself to work with a mort like Nitro.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I gotta ask.

    Has there always been this past friendship between Hal and Sinestro, or is that something John's is coming up with?

    Because I feel like it's being shoehorned into their past but I don't know.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm not sure if we really need to be spoiling this stuff, but the mighty DOOM
    had Nitro in chains in a cell. As a bargaining chip or somesuch I guess

    august on
    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • DMACDMAC Moderator mod
    edited March 2008
    Man, I want an alternate New Frontier Cooke-iverse where he's cloned and puts out 4-5 regular series a month with the characters. Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and a rotating Showcase book.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    DMAC wrote: »
    Man, I want an alternate New Frontier Cooke-iverse where he's cloned and puts out 4-5 regular series a month with the characters. Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and a rotating Showcase book.

    In theory, this is what we had when DC was regularly publishing BATMAN ADVENTURES and SUPERMAN ADVENTURES. The JLU book is terrific as well, but I think DC is cancelling it (because they aren't so bright when it comes to certain things).

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    edited March 2008
    fuck it I'm putting them both together

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor used Nitro to blow up Atlantis in the NAMOR miniseries, presumably killing him. Maybe it didn't though.
    Well the thing to remember is that at the end of the Namor mini-series, Namor hooked up with Doom.
    As if DOOM would lower himself to work with a mort like Nitro.
    That's probably why he had Nitro locked up in a top-security prison.

    I like Penance, and I'm guessing that, in the end
    He'll just wind up going back to the Thunderbolts and Osborn will smooth everything over. After all, Penance came back, gave them Nitro, and still wants to do good. Osborn still wants a powerhouse. This will probably fit back into main continuity without much trouble.

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  • edited March 2008
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    When did Nitro die before? Wolverine cut off his arm and then gave him to Namor.
    Namor used Nitro to blow up Atlantis in the NAMOR miniseries, presumably killing him. Maybe it didn't though.
    Well the thing to remember is that at the end of the Namor mini-series, Namor hooked up with Doom.
    As if DOOM would lower himself to work with a mort like Nitro.
    That's probably why he had Nitro locked up in a top-security prison.

    I like Penance, and I'm guessing that, in the end
    He'll just wind up going back to the Thunderbolts and Osborn will smooth everything over. After all, Penance came back, gave them Nitro, and still wants to do good. Osborn still wants a powerhouse. This will probably fit back into main continuity without much trouble.

    Correct.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    And everything in 616 remains as fucked up as ever.

    Whee!


    (Note that I approve of this status quo.)

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  • smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    So my MotW

    Buffy
    Is a Lesbian...really, come on Joss I expected better from you.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I guess this kinda takes place in the future, but what with Secret Invasion coming, and Dr. Doom doing other stuff (along with Mighty Avengers), I just don't see how it would fit.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I don't see why it wouldn't.

    EDIT: It just takes place before the current Secret Invasion DOOM time travel shenanigans.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • mugginnsmugginns Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    First motw for me:

    All New Atom
    The whole part where he is describing the cancer, and then the narrative as he's getting into the blood cell were really awesome.

    I really dug the new art.. didn't like the letters as much. I dunno if that has changed or not.

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  • übergeekübergeek Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    smokmnky wrote: »
    So my MotW

    Buffy
    Is a Lesbian...really, come on Joss I expected better from you.

    You're kidding.....right? That's ridiculous, after you know....Angel, Finn, Spike, that demon guy Spike and Angel tried to "save" her from......

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  • smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    smokmnky wrote: »
    So my MotW

    Buffy
    Is a Lesbian...really, come on Joss I expected better from you.

    You're kidding.....right? That's ridiculous, after you know....Angel, Finn, Spike, that demon guy Spike and Angel tried to "save" her from......

    She didn't actually date "that demon guy" (The Immortal) one of her impostors did. That being said yes that is the reason, Joss created a definite pattern with her never once was there a hint that she would go that way and then suddenly after like 2 issues she's with this other slayer? I just didn't work for me.

    The revel scene was pretty funny though.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User
    edited March 2008
    The New Frontier Special was such a refreshingly great read. Definately long overdue.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    you have no idea how badly I want Cooke to follow through on his NF sequel idea

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  • KVWKVW Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    smokmnky wrote: »
    smokmnky wrote: »
    So my MotW

    Buffy
    Is a Lesbian...really, come on Joss I expected better from you.

    You're kidding.....right? That's ridiculous, after you know....Angel, Finn, Spike, that demon guy Spike and Angel tried to "save" her from......

    She didn't actually date "that demon guy" (The Immortal) one of her impostors did. That being said yes that is the reason, Joss created a definite pattern with her never once was there a hint that she would go that way and then suddenly after like 2 issues she's with this other slayer? I just didn't work for me.

    The revel scene was pretty funny though.

    Whedon said it was just a young girl experimenting and she's not a lesbian. There was something in the NYpost or something like that.

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    fuck it I'm putting them both together


    Next time delete them both and start again?

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