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but this belongs in the technology subforum
Then I was like "hey lets try some games"
and my hopes were crushed
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=34604
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
But other than that one problem I have with it, Ubuntu is damn fine.
I really want to use Ubuntu, but there are too many programs I rely on Windows for. When I did run it I was very pleased with it's capability and ease of use. If I could purchase more programs for it and find alternatives for others I do have I would probably switch. The fact that these distro's can find programs and where to pull them from to run files with unknown extensions, or drivers for products, all automatically, while Windows (at least XP) still can't figure out what's going on, boggles my mind.
To be fair, XP came out like a million years ago. Ubuntu 7.10's six months old or some shit.
Anyhoo, I'm also a fan of Ubuntu. I normally dual-boot, but my windows is so infested with viruses I can't even play games on it anymore. I'm just waiting for the next Ubuntu (hardy), and then I'm going to just re-install windows and ubuntu from scratch.
Yes, this was why I quit Ubuntu as well.
As a technical achievement and stand-alone OS, Ubuntu is wonderful. As a viable alternative to Windows, hell no, despite what they say on the Ubuntu forums. But hey, it's free and Vista costs money.
Is there still issues with WINE?
There has always been and there will probably always be issues with running games in wine. Some run great and others, not at all.
Tofu wrote: Here be Littleboots, destroyer of threads and master of drunkposting.
It has to modify the MBR of the drive that your PC boots by default, to install the boot loader. It doesn't matter which drive you have Ubuntu installed on. As part of the install process it sets up GRUB, which will then give you a menu when your PC boots, letting you choose Ubuntu or Windows.
I want to keep my Windows drive isolated and my Linux drive isolated. Neither messing with the other.
It's just this feeling I have that some wild-card is going to mess something up in the file system.
There has to be a way to disable MBR rewrites.
It's not. The boot strap has its own little home. Linux isn't touching any of your windows data.
Tofu wrote: Here be Littleboots, destroyer of threads and master of drunkposting.
Why? It's not really any more difficult than running windows. Installing Ubuntu is massively easier than installing XP.
The only significant problem I ran into was when I first installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my desktop, I have a 3Com USB wifi dongle that took a bit of fiddling to get working. When I bought my laptop I was a little more careful of hardware (looked around, drew up a shortlist, then crossed off any that had problems in the Ubuntu hardware wiki), ended up with a Thinkpad T41, which has worked completely flawlessly with Ubuntu.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
No, he's right. Ubuntu is indeed really easy to get running (really really easy -- it found all the special drivers for my laptop all on its own), but once you've done that you need the programs, and most of those are still built for the expert Linux user familiar with command-line arcana. When I found that setting up my mp3 player was going to be harder than installing mods for Morrowind I decided that obviously Ubuntu is for people not like me. :P
Your experiences do not match my own. The only thing I can think of recently that I've needed the command-line for was to find out the MAC address of my wifi card. My mp3 player just works when it's plugged in.
A handful run, most don't.
I couldn't be bothered with Linux or Mac OS as my default desktop OS till there's some huge massive super large reason to make me bother dual booting.
I love the U.
Man, that's like saying "I tried to run some Windows programs on my Mac, and they wouldn't run. What the shit. Clearly Mac OSX is garbage."
the difference being that if you ever said that about OS X, everyone would look at you like you were retarded, but if you blurt that out in a Linux thread, it's treated like some kind of serious criticism.
He didn't anywhere say that ubuntu was garbage. Only that he can't play games on it, and was disappointed that he couldn't.
However if you want to be a programmer or really learn computers I think running Linux is a fantastic idea. I've always been a computer guy, but it wasn't until I really started using as Linux my primary operating system 10 years ago did I really start to really understand some of the low level stuff.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
I don't think that the differences in UI between Ubuntu-Gnome and Windows are really that significant.
Not the fault of Ubuntu, it just couldn't do one of the major things I use my computer for.
Now, get my games working on Ubuntu, then I could see dual booting.
BUT
I need to have all my Adobe systems running in it. Not knock offs, or almost likes. I need all of the CS3 programs to work.
Might as well throw in Autodesks 3DSMax too, but I'll take Blender if I have too.
Yeah this is why DirectX was one of Microsoft's smartest moves. Programmers had been using C, 3rd party libraries and OpenGL prior to DirectX. Non of this stuff was really under Microsoft's control. In comes the proprietary video game libraries and viola, customer lock in.
Being forced to use windows is the only reason I don't buy more PC games.
I'm just glad that many indie developers are using cross platform libraries nowadays like SDL.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
No one said Ubuntu was garbage, though. Perhaps the fault lies with the Linux hardcore who like to describe Ubuntu as a viable alternative to Windows, which it isn't yet. Like I said earlier, it's a great technical achievment (especially from a security viewpoint) and if it could play games, it probably would be huge.
This is the man you must kill:
Tofu wrote: Here be Littleboots, destroyer of threads and master of drunkposting.
But it is a viable alternative to windows, for some people. My neighbour could certainly use it since all she does is surf the web and check email. (infact she would probably be better off due to its relative immunity from viruses and stuff) I could also see it being used in many business environments too.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....