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Yeah, I have been re-reading Watchmen and it is much more apparent this time around that Adrian really is trying to make the world better by what he is doing and genuinely wants everyone to reach their full potential. Adrian is the only regular human being who has reached his full potential in every way. Doc Manhattan makes this pretty apparent when it is going over his backstory. When he is really starting to lose touch with his humanity he says that only Adrian interests him anymore.
I know, that's what I'm saying - they at least got that right.
I'm pretty sure he was just getting into a better position to help rebuild after the fact. You see he's rebuilding NY at the end. He doesn't strike me as someone who would profit from tragedy without using the money towards something good, and he's obviously pretty distressed at what he'd done when he was talking with Manhattan.
Why's everyone complaining about the costumes, anyway? Probably the most minor part of Watchmen was what the costumes looked like, the more important stuff was the substance. Really, a lot of the overt critique of other superhero comics was done in Hollis Mason's book anyway, which definitely won't be in the film - the stuff about capes being a stupid idea and how to improvise armour.
Other than that, as long as they keep the characters right and the plot the same, there shouldn't be so much of a problem.
I've heard, by the way (can't remember where from, might've been Wikipedia):
-It deals with Blake's death
-It follows the basic plot
-It starts with some explanation of what the alternate history involves (like a timeline of '45-'85)
-It's set in an alternate '85
-They're going to be aging/de-aging the characters to show various points in their careers
-Apparently they're taking out the electric cars or something, didn't understand why.
That all sounds pretty okay. They're not exactly giving Rorschach a love interest, are they?
edit: actually, the one important thing about the *look* of the film would kind of have to be the direction. Watchmen looked good because of the complexity and intelligent look of the panels. Incidental characters in the background, places around the news stand, it even pretty much reveals Rorschach's identity in the second issue, all of that was excellent, and they need to keep that in. Zack Snyder did something similar with 300, so there's hope
Budget constraints, I wager.
This is pretty minor. So minor, in fact, that it makes absolutely no sense. Unless the highers-ups have some connection to Texaco or whatever, I can't imagine why they'd bother changing this.
Oh, people complaining about Veidt being superhuman: there are slight implications here and there that actually, some people are a bit superhuman. Veidt catching bullets, apparently there's a real psychic (his head gets stolen and used in Veidt's plot), even Rorschach was going around for days without sleep eating raw eggs and sugar.
It's like what they do in the Planetary Comic. They have a "Fantastic Four" that hordes all the technology instead of sharing it to the betterment of humanity. Just like the regular Fantastic Four, actually.
Dr. Manhattan shares his technology and abilities for the betterment of humanity.
Hence, the cars.
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Is that a pro or con?
I don't know who you're addressing here - I understood the idea behind them, I was just confused why they wouldn't be in the film
Over-reliance on CGI always hurts films, especially with the low-quality stuff you see too often. The exceptions are usually when the CGI is a central part of the film (like Gollum or Doctor Manhattan, hopefully) or it's used very rarely subtley
Also, the Jurassic Park CGI still looks awesome to this day.
...because then he would look like a naked man covered in powdered blue stuff?
At what point is that not appropriate?
You hear about this Hollywood?
I hear they has magic.
It might be more expensive but it's a lot easier on the actor and makeup people.
Like God, I hope.
This here. A guy they dipped in a bathtub of blue grease paint wouldn't look weird enough.
I hope he glows in the dark or something.
Man, I think one of the most notable things about the watchmen was how easily I thought up a voice for each of the characters, without even thinking about it.
I'm pretty eager to see what they will all sound like.
On the black screen
He already changes his color on a dime and hangs around in three places at once - the guy practically is CGI in real life.
Morgan Freeman.(that'd be SO AMAZING)
The real question is what will Rorschach sound like. Apparently he has a monotone voice, I always imagined him having a 40's detective voice.
Not Morgan Freeman. Michael Clark Duncan or James Earl Jones.
And yeah, Rorschach has a monotone, gruff voice. It should sound appropriately muffled by the mask. I just want to hear a voice that cracks a lot, and one the conveys the loose grasp on reality he had.
On the black screen
GOT IT.
Tom.
Waits.
Everyone has them in the comic because Dr. Manhattan can create crap loads of material for batteries. It's not about the technology (which we have) but the cost of fuel.
That's a good point, but I think the implication was that it had knock-on effects, advancing technology in other areas. Rorschach specifically says that his mask was created from a dress that was a by-product of some Manhattan-related technological advancement, and I always thought some of the other stuff was implied to exist for the same reason - Nite Owl's ship, for example
Perfect. Now let's just hope the guy that's playing him channels his voice.
When I read Watchmen, there are definitely some voice influences happening. I always imagined Doc Manhattan sounding like Clancy Brown a la Lex Luthor. Nite Owl for some reason sounds like Jeff Goldblum, and Ozymandias has Tom Cruise's arrogant talking-down-to-everyone thing going on (when that early rumor of Cruise wanting the role came out, I was actually pretty excited). Not sure I had any other iconic voices in mind; I need to read the book again and pay attention to how everyone sounds.
Honestly, I think what we've seen so far is the best we can possibly expect from adapting the book to live action (aside form, maybe, some of the actors being a bit too young, though they're doing a lot of aging effects in this anyway). I'm seriously looking forward to this one.