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Brother has mental issue?

crisis54crisis54 Registered User regular
edited March 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
He's 18 years old. Ok, we both have separate rooms and have locks on our doors. Anyways, my mom comes and knocks on his door asking him for a stapler. He is not responding. We knock and knock, telling him that we're gonna come in. So we are able to open the locks from outside his room through this little hole, and when we enter, we don't see anybody. Then we see him come out from UNDER the mattress.
For beds we have this bed stand, which is four legs and this kinda hard mattress. Hard to describe. But it's meant to put another mattress ontop. He was sleeping between the hard mattress and the actual mattress. We have a lot of pillows and blankets, and the mattress is very comfortable. There is no physical reason from him not to sleep on it.

When we asked what he was doing, he said he didn't know. He said he knew that he was going underneath the mattress, but he didn't know why. He knew he was under there for about 10 minutes.

This is really scary for us. I mean, imagine somebody you know for 18 years, doing something as strange as this. We have absolutely no idea what to think.

Thanks guys.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It's a little unusual, but I think jumping to "He has mental issues" is maybe a bit much. Maybe he was just lying about what he was really doing?

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  • SmasherSmasher Starting to get dizzy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I have to agree with Murphy. There's lots of explanations I would choose before mental issues. Of course it's possible, but you'd need a lot more evidence of it before I would think it likely.

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  • Bob The MonkeyBob The Monkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Was this in the middle of the day or at night? Because tiredness can do fucked up things to a person. I'd occasionally wake up in the middle of the night, construct a tent in the middle of my room and sleep in that. Led to some awfully confused wakings up on my part.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yeah, I wouldn't raise too much of an alarm. Case in point, 2 weeks ago, I was asleep next to my girlfriend (who had been up for another hour or so playing DS, bless her heart!) when I jumped on her. Think pounced, like a cat. I didn't actually do anything. Just pounced. She, obviously freaked, asked what I was doing. My response?

    "You were looking at me."

    Riiiiiight. I'm sane. I went back to bed.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Occams Razor:
    1. Some people don't like sleeping on beds.
    2. He was jacking off.

    Choose one.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    crisis54 wrote: »
    This is really scary for us. I mean, imagine somebody you know for 18 years, doing something as strange as this.
    Most of my friends do things way stranger than this while wide awake. It's definitely not something to worry about.

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  • crisis54crisis54 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    This was around 8pm. He said he was feeling sleepy. And he wouldn't lie to us. If he needed "private time", then we all understand and that would be the end of that. We would come back later. He could also have EASILY stayed under the covers. We have big thick blankets. But we knocked on the door for a good minute with no response. So we were obviously worried.

    Maybe mental issues is a bit harsh, but honestly, seeing that shocked the hell out of us. I mean, someone perfectly normal, then you walk in and they are doing something completely weird. Like, I've never heard of it before. Maybe if he was sleeping on the floor, then maybe I could understand. But he got up, walked to his bed, lifted the entire mattress up, got underneath, and put it back down on him. And this isn't some sissy mattress. This is a big, spring bastard.

    I guess lack of sleep could be an issue. Sometimes I hear him at 12 am still typing his homework on the computer and getting up at 6am. And this person is NOT a morning person. Hmm, ok, thanks guys.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    crisis54 wrote: »
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    Maybe mental issues is a bit harsh, but honestly, seeing that shocked the hell out of us. I mean, someone perfectly normal, then you walk in and they are doing something completely weird. Like, I've never heard of it before. Maybe if he was sleeping on the floor, then maybe I could understand. But he got up, walked to his bed, lifted the entire mattress up, got underneath, and put it back down on him. And this isn't some sissy mattress. This is a big, spring bastard.

    Maybe he has bondage fantasies? He's 18 years old. It could be perfectly normal sexual experimentation.

    I don't think you have anything to worry about unless he exhibits odd behaviour in other areas of his life.

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  • Hotlead JunkieHotlead Junkie Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Maybe he was a little high? Does he smoke pot? It's possible he just had his first experience and got a little paranoid and 'crazy'. The first (and only) time I was introduced to it was about the same age and I acted extremley weirdley on my first high. For example, I was hanging outside a takeway pointing and laughing crazily at a dustbin for a while. I thought it was fucking hysterical for some reason, I didn't know why then and I don't know why now.

    It's a possibility. Pot does make you act crazy for very illogical reasons.

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  • FishMistFishMist Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Does your brother read any Bret Easton Ellis? I seem to remember a character in one of his books slept under a futon matress at one point...

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  • TaGuelleTaGuelle Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Smokin pot? come on dude, I don't care how much pot you smoke, it's not gonna be the basis why you sleep inbetween mattresses. I actually enjoy sleeping in very confined spaced, its comforting. I cant explain why nor do I really feel compelled to. What he has done really does not sound at all bad or mental for me. Maybe on the weird side, but there is weird and then there is crazy, no? Did he have the head of an animal with him? I think not or else you would have said so. Just let it go and accept that perhaps your brother is a bit odd.

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  • Hotlead JunkieHotlead Junkie Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    TaGuelle wrote: »
    Smokin pot? come on dude, I don't care how much pot you smoke, it's not gonna be the basis why you sleep inbetween mattresses. I actually enjoy sleeping in very confined spaced, its comforting. I cant explain why nor do I really feel compelled to. What he has done really does not sound at all bad or mental for me. Maybe on the weird side, but there is weird and then there is crazy, no? Did he have the head of an animal with him? I think not or else you would have said so. Just let it go and accept that perhaps your brother is a bit odd.

    I'm just curious to know if you have smoked pot yourself as a basis for that argument. I'v only had one experience and I did some screwy things. I'm not trying to argue, I'm not an expert on the stuff myself, just curious about all this.

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  • SmasherSmasher Starting to get dizzy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Something you have to keep in mind is that everyone does weird shit from time to time. If you judged people based on the weirdest shit they do rather than how they normally act, you'd think everyone was batshit insane.

    I think the whacking it explanation is fairly likely. Even if you and your parents would be ok with him saying he needs some private time, he may not realize that or simply be too embarrased to talk about it anyway. And if he wasn't whacking it there are plenty of other strange-but-not-crazy explanations for it.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Heck dude, maybe he just had a brain fart.

    People do strange things all the time without knowing why they do it, they just get the impulse to. It's just something your mind convinces you to do and you think it's a good idea at the time only later on you can't figure out just what you were thinking.

    You don't need to be drunk or high to do something like that. I'm sure everyone of us here as at one point or another just done something and then later thought "why did I just do that?"

    Seriously, one occassion like this is hardly an indicator of a mental illness.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Also; it does sound interesting to actually be under the mattress. Now I have the compulsion to try it too.

    I know I'm not the only one reading this thread who thinks that.

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  • SpecularitySpecularity Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    No, Lewisham, you're not. And like TaGuelle said, I also like to sleep in confined spaces. I'll pack pillows on top of/around my legs, and forts are my favorite thing. If I had a boxspring I'd try it out and tell you how it went, but, alas, my mattress is flat on a slab of wood. Anyone care to try?

    No matter what he was doing under there, it's gonna take something a lot stranger to concern me, and I think, OP, you should just sorta tag it under "weird" and not worry about it.

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  • Ant000Ant000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I've piled a bunch of stuff on top of myself while lounging around in bed before, like cushions/pillows/comforter/blanket -- all that stuff. Not recently, but yeah. I guess I found the pressure to be comfortable... maybe it was that taken to extremes?

    And a box spring is nice and firm, some people dig that... sort of like sleeping on the floor. So combine the two and there's a potential explanation :).

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  • Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I dunno, sometimes I like to get into a dark, tiny space and just hang out myself. I've laid under a mattress before and it just felt really comfortable for some reason. As long as you can stretch out, it's just a nice feeling.

    I doubt it's mental issues.

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  • AthlantarAthlantar Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Not sure how much consolation this is, but I've layed underneath the couch cushion before while watching TV. I have no clue why I did it, and when my brother walked in asking "What the fuck are you doing?" I literally had no response.

    People do crazy shit. If he's consistently doing crazy shit and hurting himself or others, then you should be worried.

    IMO.

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  • y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    you're assuming mental illness, mental illness which has failed to manifest itself for 18 years, until he, while tired, slept under a mattress. are you serious?


    its a 30% chance its drug related, 30% sleep related, 30% masturbation related, and 9.9999% he just felt like it. rule those out, then go treat him for mental illness.

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  • TaGuelleTaGuelle Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    HotleadJunkie - sorry dude I didn't mean for it to come out as an attack, I was going more for an ironic joke, but I did it late at night so whatever subtlty I have, must have disapated. yeah I'm talking from a lot of experience and while I've done some retarded things while high, I've never really done some paticurally odd things, there is always a reason founded in good standing logic, ie, if I were to sleep under the bed, itd be because monsters were atacking, not persay because I was high. I would just think of monsters because I was high. Hope I don't sound retarded or weird less they come. ;p

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    When you're alone you give in to impulses that you wouldn't around other people. Like when I'm in the bathroom shaving I talk to myself in character of some kind. If someone walked in on me doing that, I couldn't explain it to them. I can't fucking explain it now, shit.

    I'd classify your brother's behavior as "experimenting with oddness".

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hoz wrote: »
    When you're alone you give in to impulses that you wouldn't around other people. Like when I'm in the bathroom shaving I talk to myself in character of some kind. If someone walked in on me doing that, I couldn't explain it to them. I can't fucking explain it now, shit.

    I'd classify your brother's behavior as "experimenting with oddness".

    This.

    So yeah, I just assume that we all do some really odd/strange things when no one else is around. I talk to myself, sometimes in different voices. I'm sure I sound batshit insane when I do this, but is doesn't mean I am.

    We all do strange stuff. Part of life and all that.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The "hard mattress thing that goes under the mattress and holds up the actual mattress that is kind of hard to describe" is also known as a box spring.

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i've gone between my mattress and my box spring before.

    i was much younger, but i was curious.

    does that make you feel better?

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    If your brother sleepwalks, he may have just gotten out of bed, then crawled under the mattress while being asleep all the time. When I was 15, I once crawled into a closet in my sleep and continued to sleep there. Freaked the hell out of me when my mom woke me up.

    In any case, I'd write this off as funny/wacky rather than shocking/alarming. If you want to approach him about it, the best you can do is gently tease him in a "man what the fuck were you doing under the mattress" way and see what happens. For the love of God, don't start walking on eggshells around him and treating him like a mental case.

    edit: In fact, if your parents keep being alarmed about this, maybe you should suggest to him that maybe he sleepwalked. That'll help him avoid further awkwardness and embarrasment, and give your parents some peace of mind as well.

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  • bagelpiratebagelpirate Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    He coulda been down there rollin a doobie.

    Or 'batin.

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  • KatholicKatholic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    crisis54 wrote: »
    He's 18 years old. Ok, we both have separate rooms and have locks on our doors. Anyways, my mom comes and knocks on his door asking him for a stapler. He is not responding. We knock and knock, telling him that we're gonna come in. So we are able to open the locks from outside his room through this little hole, and when we enter, we don't see anybody. Then we see him come out from UNDER the mattress.
    For beds we have this bed stand, which is four legs and this kinda hard mattress. Hard to describe. But it's meant to put another mattress ontop. He was sleeping between the hard mattress and the actual mattress. We have a lot of pillows and blankets, and the mattress is very comfortable. There is no physical reason from him not to sleep on it.

    When we asked what he was doing, he said he didn't know. He said he knew that he was going underneath the mattress, but he didn't know why. He knew he was under there for about 10 minutes.

    This is really scary for us. I mean, imagine somebody you know for 18 years, doing something as strange as this. We have absolutely no idea what to think.

    Thanks guys.

    Sounds like shrooms to me.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yeah, making a huge issue out of this makes absolutely no sense. If this is the most abnormal thing he does, then I really wouldn't be worried. If he can interact socially, function normally, and not be batshit insane, then don't worry about quirks and eccentricities. I for one, read upside down while hanging off my bed. Some people would find this odd.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i've gone between my mattress and my box spring before.

    i was much younger, but i was curious.

    does that make you feel better?

    How do we know you don't have mental issues? ;)

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I, also, have slept between a mattress and a box spring

    I do not have mental problems

    chances are he just wanted to try it for the sake of trying it

    if he does it AGAIN, then maybe there's something going on because it's not the most comfortable place ever

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hoz wrote: »
    When you're alone you give in to impulses that you wouldn't around other people. Like when I'm in the bathroom shaving I talk to myself in character of some kind.

    Witch.
















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    OP, is your family super religious? I feel really confused reading your post because I think a.) your brother must have shown signs of mental illness throughout his lifetime for you to reach this conclusion or b.) you must have a really exaggerated view of how actions correspond to mentalities. I just found your posts on the matter really odd.

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  • CylaranaCylarana Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    This is an odd thing but do not freak out. Now, if you'd come in and found him covered with blood, knife in hand...or shaking and staring at nothing...then you could be worried.
    People do things sometimes. End of story. If this is a one off, do not worry about it. Hell, even if he likes being under the mattress, not a big deal. It isn't normal, but one abnormal behavior does not equate to a mental illness. Seriously, just chill out. Is he exhibiting other abnormal behaviors? Is he harming himself or others? Is he withdrawing from family or friends (more than most 18 year olds)? Does he sometimes seem to see/hear/feel things no one else does? Does he exhibit unusually high stress behaviors and actions during normal day to day life?

    I am not a trained professional, but I have experince with mental illness...and this isn't a mental illness unless there' s a whole lot you're not saying.

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