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Anyone still remember Granida 2?

AsukaKishimotoAsukaKishimoto Registered User regular
edited March 2008 in Games and Technology
I was thinking,thanks to a topic on the forum,about breaking out my sega stuff. I found a copy of my Ps2 version of Grandia 2. Plugging that game in, I forgot how much fun I had in that game. I brought it over to
my buddys house,and I told him I found a copy of Grandia 2. He had no clue what I was reffering to.
Does anyone play Grandia 2 anymore?

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hell yes I do. I dust it off every now and again just to give Melfis the swift kick to the ass he deserves.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I remember that it came out for the Dreamcast at around the same time as Skies of Arcadia, and I only had enough money for one of them, so I bought Skies.

    Was Grandia 2 any good?

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It was pretty good until around halfway through when they neutered the main character and turned him from a sarcastic badass to a lovestruck twit.

    Gameplay was good the whole way through, though.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I played through the PC version once. (I'd play through again, but I detest unskippable cutscenes...)

    The combat engine in the game is more or less perfect, not to mention the upgrade system.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It was pretty good until around halfway through when they neutered the main character and turned him from a sarcastic badass to a lovestruck twit.

    Gameplay was good the whole way through, though.

    I'd argue that the whole thing went to crap around the 33%-50% point. Once you start getting all the AoE spells, they're all so cheap that every single battle except the bosses is "two characters cast AoE, other two mop up the remaining enemy," and with the HP/MP regen points all over the place, there's absolutely no reason not to.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I would like to add that the game has one of my favorite lines from anything, ever.
    Ryuudo, to the "CLEANSE THE EVIL WITH FIRE" priestess: Well, well. Look what the slavish devotion to sanctimonious bloodshed dragged in. So, what brings you here...or did I answer myself?

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  • ZombieAsumaZombieAsuma Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I was a pretty big fan of this game. I just liked the fact that....
    the sexy demon girl got to be a teacher in the epilogue. Everybody wins!

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It was pretty good until around halfway through when they neutered the main character and turned him from a sarcastic badass to a lovestruck twit.

    Gameplay was good the whole way through, though.

    I'd argue that the whole thing went to crap around the 33%-50% point. Once you start getting all the AoE spells, they're all so cheap that every single battle except the bosses is "two characters cast AoE, other two mop up the remaining enemy," and with the HP/MP regen points all over the place, there's absolutely no reason not to.

    Sure you could do that. But when you tried to play the game with poison/gravity spells and knowing when to block, battlefield controlling became more entertaining than going demoman on everyone.

    It was a little cheap, tough, to know what attacks were the enemies going to use against you. Still it doesn't diminish the fact that the battle system was damn entertaining. Me and my little brother played replayed it a lot. He finished the game with all the skill books and mana eggs in like 30 hours.

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  • AsukaKishimotoAsukaKishimoto Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well,for me,it almost tops Final Fantasy 13 and or 10.l Its a matter of taste however,due to the way character devopment is dealt with.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yeah...one of my favorite RPGs of all time really(could be nostalgia talking but whatever).

    Still like the original more though, but it was a favorite.

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  • ZombieAsumaZombieAsuma Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well,for me,it almost tops Final Fantasy 13 and or 10.l Its a matter of taste however,due to the way character devopment is dealt with.

    So one of those lucky folks that has already played 13 huh? Heh sorry for being an ass.

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  • Seta 3000Seta 3000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Grandia 2 is terrible from the very beginning, what is wrong with you fucks

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    ...Man...someone's angry.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The gameplay is amazing, even if you can abuse the AoE spells after a while. The bosses are still fun as shit, anyway.

    The story and characters at about halfway turn into total shit. It's like someone takes the generic jrpg angst and pretension nob and turns it up to 11. No cliche' goes unused.

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  • KimFidlerKimFidler Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It's sitting in my backlog, brand new in package. For Dreamcast and PS2.

    I really need to stop buying games for the sake of buying games.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2008
    august wrote: »
    The gameplay is amazing, even if you can abuse the AoE spells after a while. The bosses are still fun as shit, anyway.

    The story and characters at about halfway turn into total shit. It's like someone takes the generic jrpg angst and pretension nob and turns it up to 11. No cliche' goes unused.

    To be fair, at least part of the ending is different.
    Just that he ends up with the demonic chick instead of the goody goody white mage.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Grandia 2 is terrible from the very beginning, what is wrong with you fucks

    Grandia 2 Extreme or whatever was. Grandia 2, the Dreamcast original, was brilliant. Best RPG combat system I know of.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Aroduc wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The gameplay is amazing, even if you can abuse the AoE spells after a while. The bosses are still fun as shit, anyway.

    The story and characters at about halfway turn into total shit. It's like someone takes the generic jrpg angst and pretension nob and turns it up to 11. No cliche' goes unused.

    To be fair, at least part of the ending is different.
    Just that he ends up with the demonic chick instead of the goody goody white mage.

    That's funny...I always thought he got both...or maybe I just unlocked the pimp ending.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I think that's Skies of Arcadia. Which is awesome.

    I don't remember him getting any anything at the end of Grandia 2, but I may have blocked it out from the pain.

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  • JoJoHoraHoraJoJoHoraHora ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I never got around to playing the second one, but I loved the first Grandia.

    I remember being really impressed by the voice acting. Was it one of the first jrpgs to have it?

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Love the game...
    Epic Fail on the thread's name, though.

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  • ShujaaShujaa Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I played it for the PC, it really is an underrated game. I never took to FFX and later, but Grandia 2 brings back the same fun feelings as the older Final Fantasies did.

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  • DaveTheWaveDaveTheWave Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The thing I will never forget about Grandia 2 is that FFX lifted its plot almost word for word and no one seemed to notice.

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  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I picked up both Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia for Dreamcast back in the day.

    Never got around to beating either, but I got way further in Grandia II, even when I pulled them back out and played them again a few years ago I must have only put an hour into SoA while my Grandia II save got maybe 5-6 hours of actual progress.

    SoA's random battles and characters were just way too boring and generic for me, even for how much I was into console RPGs back then.

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  • AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The thing I will never forget about Grandia 2 is that FFX lifted its plot almost word for word and no one seemed to notice.

    So... it's about a jock who's transported to a strange new land that's being terrorized by a gigantic whale... thing?

    Huh.

    I got Grandia 2 for cheap just a few weeks ago. I’ll probably give it a shot in the next couple of weeks, since I hear the combat is awesome.

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  • ShujaaShujaa Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The combat is indeed awesome, I remember being really impressed by the battle mechanics.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Grandia 3's combat is even better, although the story is worse.

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  • CrunchyKellsCrunchyKells Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Love the game...
    Epic Fail on the thread's name, though.

    I thought he was talking about the war......you know.......Grenada??
    I'm sorry

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The thing I will never forget about Grandia 2 is that FFX lifted its plot almost word for word and no one seemed to notice.
    Except for the part where they're 100% different, you're absolutely right.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hi5 PC players! It's probably the last jRPG I've actually played though, but it was pretty fun. Although there was an annoying crash bug at the end for me, so I had to play through the end fight about 5 times before I just moved to a different computer to see the ending. And yeah, I thought he got both in the end as well.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Having come off a PC RPG kick, when I played through the game on the DC I associated dagger users with rogues and kept wondering why Roan sucked so much at stabbing things. Wasn't until much later that I realized he was supposed to be a mage.

    But lots of fun, though it did sometimes get annoying not knowing in advance which of the girls you would be using for a dungeon/boss.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The pc version was rather welcome. First decent JRPG the system got since FFVIII and Breath of Fire 4.

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  • ShujaaShujaa Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I remember it had some shocking video stuttering though, but it was quite easy to dig out the .avis and cut off the stuttering parts. Kind of silly that they let that through.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Grandia II is the last good Grandia game.

    It's also the last Grandia game that came out before Super Smash Bros. Melee.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    I prefer the faster combat and cheesier plot of Grandia II to Grandia.

    Grandia II's plot is like a perfect hot out of the oven slice of plain pizza. It just works.

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  • JeffyJeffy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Wait. Grandia 2's plot cheesier than 1? "ZOMG I WANT TO GO ON TEH ADVENTUUUUR".

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I had grandia 2 and skies of arcadia for my beloved Dreamcast. I enjoyed them both, but I don't remember if I beat either of them. I remember getting fed up in Arcadia for the sheer amount of random battles, and the long load times associated with them, and I remember the most fun being ship battles, of which there weren't NEARLY enough of.

    I re-bought Grandia for the PS2 some time after, I still have it, but haven't touched it in ages.

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The Grandia series is one of my favorite RPG series. I saw Grandia "Extreeem!" or whatever it was called in a game shop not too long but was too broke to get it. It's basically Grandia 2 with different characters, right?

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  • AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    From what I know, Grandia Extreme is a dungeon crawler that basically uses and updated version of Grandia 2's battle system. The story is practically non existant, so if you don't like dungeon crawlers you probably wouldn't like it.

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  • AsukaKishimotoAsukaKishimoto Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    AJR wrote: »
    The thing I will never forget about Grandia 2 is that FFX lifted its plot almost word for word and no one seemed to notice.

    So... it's about a jock who's transported to a strange new land that's being terrorized by a gigantic whale... thing?

    Huh.

    I got Grandia 2 for cheap just a few weeks ago. I’ll probably give it a shot in the next couple of weeks, since I hear the combat is awesome.

    Actually,its about a jock transported to a stange land thats being attacked by a whale thing while hes trying to hook up with a virgin priestess and carrying a weapon that doesnt look like it can cut.Oh,and he has a low blood sugar,so he fades near the end.Fun game though.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Heh, I was just playing this again and didn't notice this thread until now. I got it originally for the Dreamcast but I wasn't that big a fan of it after I finished it. It was too short and really easy, if you want it to be difficult you actually have to force yourself to play it differently almost. Or at least not collect every item and fight every enemy. I'd have to say the plot isn't really anything spectacular, but the characters are all fairly well-developed, at least the PCs. The main villain, probably not so much. Plus there is a lot of vagueness and nonsensicality about the way things worked. Although right now I've been playing without sound but I think that everything important gets text anyway. Ryudo is definitely my favorite character of any of the Grandia games though, he's such a magnificent bastard most of the way through. Good ending too, now that I'm thinking about it.

    Grandia's battle system has always been great, but I'd have to say Grandia 3's is better. Or possibly it's just the game integrating the battle system better with what enemies actually throw at you, considering you have to make use of cancels a lot more in order to survive. The characters aren't nearly as interesting though, but the plot's actually really similar, not specifically but in a more general sense, sort of the same thing with the first one. The first one probably had the best actual plot, though I haven't played that one in a long time. I just skipped Extreme because that looked really stupid.

    Another problem with it is that it is really linear, there's only ever one sidequest you can do and it's just one small dungeon with like one new enemy. It also follows a distinct pattern of town>dungeon>other dungeon with boss>town throughout most of the game.

    Also, Skies of Arcadia has been mentioned. I bought that too when it came out and didn't really like it that much, mainly because of the too frequent random battles which all took way too long, and then the immensely grueling ship battles. I never did finish that version. But I did pick up the Gamecube version and beat that one much later. As far as I can tell, they fixed up the random battle issues and made the special moves skippable, although they didn't do much for the ship battles. But I'd recommend it for anyone who passed on it or didn't like the Dreamcast version.

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