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What's going on with my mouth?!- Gum boil zit thing

No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To FearBut Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
edited March 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hello. First things first, I don't have health insurance.

This is kind of an odd question because there's a few weird particulars about it. A few months ago I got a horrendous toothache. I traced in back to some form of "bump" on my inner cheek with a red spot in the middle. I thought it was some kind of canker sore and upon going to the doctor he told me it was an infected salivary gland. I believe this to be true because when I probe it with my tongue I can feel the secretions. I have been taking penicilin for it. The first time this happened I took the entire prescription. The bump didn't go away. A few weeks later I was struck with another toothache, I went back to the doctor and he proscribed a bigger amount of penicilin which I took for the 2 weeks he said. I didn't get it the 3 times a day every day like I was supposed, but I was generally very dilligent about it.

That was last week and I stopped taking the penicillin regularly. A few days ago my gum felt sore again. I noticed there was a bump on my gum this time, right above where the salivary gland is. This one looked and felt different, like a blister and was very tender. It doesn't hurt so much as is tender and annoying. I looked at it tonight and noticed it had actually come to a prominent swollen head. I rubbed some Listerine on it and it popped. There was some blood and pus. Then I rinsed thoroughly with Listerine and salt as well. The bump is still there but the head is gone. What the fuck is happening here? I will likely go to an oral surgeon (which will cost a fucking ton) but I'm curious if anyone here might be able to put my fears at rest first.

Thanks in advance.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    ... penicilin which I took for the 2 weeks he said. I didn't get it the 3 times a day every day like I was supposed, but I was generally very dilligent about it.

    That was last week and I stopped taking the penicillin regularly. A few days ago my gum felt sore again.
    Close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades. If you are given a prescription of antibiotics, you cannot self-diagnose what you think is a full recovery, and take yourself off the meds: you finish the full prescription. Even if you start to feel better, there are still nasty little bacteria lurking around at the infection site, and as soon as you stop taking your antibiotics, those bacteria rejoice at their survival and celebrate by multiplying like fucking rabbits. Only this time, their foul offspring, conceived in a time of shortage and hardship, are born with partial immunity to the blight that nearly struck down their parents. It's an evolutionary mechanism, and quite a clever one for the bacteria, but what it means for humans is that every time you don't stick through the full course of meds, the problem just gets that much worse.

    Also, if an infection doesn't seem to be going away by the time you're almost through a prescription, don't wait a week or two, call the doctor *right then*. "Hey, doc, I've been taking the penicillin regularly, but the infection is still there - should I get an extension on this prescription, or is it time to switch to another antibiotic?"

    As far as your current situation goes, the odds of this being a different problem are slim to none: it's just that same lurking infection again, penicillin-resistant and meaner than ever. My advice would be to go back to your doctor, explain that the penicillin just isn't working well enough, and ask for something with a bit more kick. Make sure you finish the complete prescription, and get the doc to take a look at your mouth when the prescription has about run its course. For now, just try to keep it as clean as possible, although the human mouth is a festering cesspit anyway, so there's not much you can do in that regard that you haven't done already.

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    If you are given a prescription of antibiotics, you cannot self-diagnose what you think is a full recovery, and take yourself off the meds: you finish the full prescription. Even if you start to feel better, there are still nasty little bacteria lurking around at the infection site, and as soon as you stop taking your antibiotics, those bacteria rejoice at their survival and celebrate by multiplying like fucking rabbits.

    Seriously. You are given prescription directions for a reason. One pill twice a day means ONE PILL TWICE A DAY. Doctors and Pharmacists know what they're talking about.

    As far as what is going on in your mouth, I would assume the Doctor was correct in the first place, but the treatment was ineffective due to your negligence. There are so many things that a "little red spot" in your mouth could be.

    Please go to the doctor again and follow the medication directions they give you. Brushing and rinsing is probably about as much as you are going to be able to do to help yourself without going back to the doctor.

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Thanks for the advice, after some google-foo it is most certainly a tooth abcess. The thing is this tooth had a root canal. It was crowned and all. The thing on my cheek has been there for a LONG time now, at least since the summer. Could that have extended to my tooth, or could my tooth have been the problem all along?

    I'm going to the doctor tomorrow. The thing is I don't have insurance. how can I work through this should more then drugs be needed? My lymph node and part of my throat were swollen and I don't need my fucking neck cut open and drained. I don't have the cash for that.

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  • BetelguesePDXBetelguesePDX Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice, after some google-foo it is most certainly a tooth abcess. The thing is this tooth had a root canal. It was crowned and all. The thing on my cheek has been there for a LONG time now, at least since the summer. Could that have extended to my tooth, or could my tooth have been the problem all along?

    I'm going to the doctor tomorrow. The thing is I don't have insurance. how can I work through this should more then drugs be needed? My lymph node and part of my throat were swollen and I don't need my fucking neck cut open and drained. I don't have the cash for that.

    If indeed it is a tooth abscess, antibiotics will only mask the symptoms while you are on them and for a little time afterwards. The definitive solution lies with the dentist. My heart goes out to you, not having insurance this will cost a pretty penny :(

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Do you qualify for medicare? See what you can do to find that out... or in the worst case scenario, you'll need to pay for it a little bit at a time over time. Please, please make sure to take the whole dose of antibiotics in the future, as others have said. You may feel better in a few days, but that doesn't mean the infection is gone.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I just recently had an abcessed tooth taken care of. I don't have insurance either and I used "i don't have the money" as an excuse to avoid putting any effort into getting it taken care of. I didn't have the money, in fact, but I could have worked harder to get it. In any case, I only went back to get it checked out six or seven months after the initial diagnosis (around the time that i first got that gum boil you got) and i came very close to losing two or three teeth, it took them two root canals and a 500mg antibiotic every six hours for a week to take care of and i may need a section of my jawbone removed in the future. Get it taken care of ASAP.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    What the others have said. Also, my dad had a salivary gland infection, and it was pretty nasty. They thought they had gotten rid of it, but then it came back, and they were concerned it might take surgery to ultimately get rid of it. Fortunately, it didn't, but it take a while.

    Did you also have hard candy around? My father's doctor told him that he had to keep the salivary gland active while it was healing, he had to go get a bunch of sugar-free candies (like sugar-free Lifesavers) to keep the saliva flowing. Yours may be a different type of infection, but it might be something to bring up to the doctor if it isn't an abscess.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Anytime you have a recurring infection, it's time to see a doctor.

    Go see a doctor. Apply for Medicaid (Medicare is for old people, Medicaid is for poor people). Go to a clinic, if you have to.

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  • Adhoc2008Adhoc2008 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Doctors know nothing about teeth. Most likely cause of toothache is, guess what, your teeth. Medication cant reach inside a tooth to the source of infection, at best it can only stave off the problem.

    Dentist time, my friend. Extraction or root canal required, if it's at the stage where you are getting an abcess.

    It could be periodontal (gum) disease as well you know (or a load of other things), but again, a dentist can figure that out by looking at you and your x-rays. Root canalled teeth can also get reinfected, it's rare, but it happens. See the same dentist who gave you the root canal if possible, he's obligated to help if it's his work, at least in the UK.


    PS: Swollen lymph nodes = serious infection, whether gum, tooth or gland initiated. It doesnt nessacarily = 'neck cut open', they would only do that if you had an extra-oral abscess, whichis unlikely, considering it's already draining into your mouth. But it does need seeing to :)

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Dentists are doctors. That is sort of implied.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Also, when you make the appointment, inform them that you're in pain, and that it looks serious. Don't take an appointment in two months when your mouth will have fallen off.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Kevin goddamnit take your fucking medication next time. Jesus christ, I hope your mouth is okay. Get it fixed ASAP.

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  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I've had more abscessed teeth than I care to remember, and I have a recurring bump just like yours towards the back of my jaw. The tooth it's attached to has been treated twice for an abscess, everything short of pulling it on account of the dentist I used to frequent refusing to remove the tooth unless I get my wisdom teeth removed as well (since every abscessed tooth I've had is one that was previously filled by her and only her, I'm not exactly faithful in her methods anymore). Once I regain insurance this summer, I'm going to a different dentist and getting this troublesome cocksucker pulled.

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