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CA to Home-Schoolers: You're too Weird, Even for Us
The Green Eyed Monster
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There was already a brief thread about this (with a much less amusing title) -- do as you please.
Apparently some California courts decided to stop letting all the weirdos slip through the cracks, and have ruled that there is no "constitutional right" to homeschool children. Apparently a case was brought forth where a child was claiming s/he was being abused in home school, which shed some light onto the fact that, well, there really isn't much regulation on homeschooling, is there?
So you'd never guess it, but apparently the homeschooling wackos are mad about this. There's a quote in the article from one of them about how they will have to use Alcatraz to hold them all if this is upheld, and I'd say do it, but there's no reason to cut off the tourist money they get from the place. Better to just lock them all up in a cattle yard in Vacaville and be done with it.
But seriously -- this poses the very real possibility of bringing regulation to homeschooling, which, based on what I hear most homeschoolers are learning (e.g. stupid Christian stuff), I have no problem with. We are a community, we are not a group of individuals who can just do whatever the fuck we please. We owe a debt to each other as well as ourselves, and part of that debt is the state insuring a baseline of education is instilled in every citizen. Largely unregulated homeschooling is a bad thing, and growing numbers of children going to homeschools is a bad thing, because it's separatist. I have no problem with the state intervening and demanding that a baseline of expectations is met.
I respect the rights of citizens to find whatever schooling they please for their children, but that schooling also needs to adhere to some kind of guidelines and regulation that insure it is safe for the children and instilling the necessary knowledge an educated, productive member of adult society should have.
So anyway this opens up some intriguing possibilities depending on where this case goes. I felt like I had more to say about it, but I guess not. Mainly, I want kids to adhere to standards, and what the courts have found here is that there is insufficient regulation on homeschooling, and that it needs to change. Plus maybe if they go to some school dances away from parent supervision, they'll hold hands with a girl, which would be totally sweet.
Disclaimer: please just don't respond hysterically to how often I call homeschool kids weirdos, it's jokes mainly. Sort of. If you're honestly offended, I apologize, but I mean creationists are weirdos and many of them go to homeschool and so really, actually, nope -- not sorry.
Apparently some California courts decided to stop letting all the weirdos slip through the cracks, and have ruled that there is no "constitutional right" to homeschool children. Apparently a case was brought forth where a child was claiming s/he was being abused in home school, which shed some light onto the fact that, well, there really isn't much regulation on homeschooling, is there?
Oakland, Calif. - A court ruling that California parents "do not have a constitutional right" to home-school their children has touched off anger and bewilderment throughout America's home-schooling community and prompted a denunciation from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
For a movement that has gained greater accommodation in recent years, a state appellate court decision last month is a setback that, if not overturned on appeal, could force some 166,000 home-schooled students in California to enroll in conventional schools. It may also prod California and other states with vague or nonexistent laws on home schooling to be more specific about what is allowed and what is required of home-schoolers.
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The number of students nationwide who are home-schooled is not known because 10 states are so hands-off they require no reporting at all, nor do parents always comply with reporting requirements. Estimates range from 1.1 million to 2.5 million home-schooled students, and the numbers are rising.
About half the states require more than simple notification from parents or guardians, such as testing, curriculum approval, or home visits. But such rules are dwindling – either explicitly or by lax enforcement, say experts. Home-school advocates worry the California case could bring more regulation or enforcement, or both.
"The overwhelming trend [among states] has been, home schooling works, OK, we'll release the reins a little bit," says Darren Jones, an attorney with the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA). "California is a bellwether. Other states might look at this [case] and say this is something we might want to consider."
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"If this goes to the [state] supreme court and it upholds it, this opens up this big Pandora's box. The state is going to have to define family rights, and to define to what extent [lawmakers] have to regulate," says Luis Huerta, a professor at the National Center for the Study of Privatization in Education at Columbia University in New York.
The prospect of Sacramento sorting out family rights won't warm many homeschoolers' hearts.
"Many of those people believe – usually based on a philosophical worldview, and often Christian – that the state has no authority over their children's education and upbringing," says Brian Ray, president of the National Home Education Research Institute, a nonprofit group in Oregon.
So you'd never guess it, but apparently the homeschooling wackos are mad about this. There's a quote in the article from one of them about how they will have to use Alcatraz to hold them all if this is upheld, and I'd say do it, but there's no reason to cut off the tourist money they get from the place. Better to just lock them all up in a cattle yard in Vacaville and be done with it.
But seriously -- this poses the very real possibility of bringing regulation to homeschooling, which, based on what I hear most homeschoolers are learning (e.g. stupid Christian stuff), I have no problem with. We are a community, we are not a group of individuals who can just do whatever the fuck we please. We owe a debt to each other as well as ourselves, and part of that debt is the state insuring a baseline of education is instilled in every citizen. Largely unregulated homeschooling is a bad thing, and growing numbers of children going to homeschools is a bad thing, because it's separatist. I have no problem with the state intervening and demanding that a baseline of expectations is met.
I respect the rights of citizens to find whatever schooling they please for their children, but that schooling also needs to adhere to some kind of guidelines and regulation that insure it is safe for the children and instilling the necessary knowledge an educated, productive member of adult society should have.
So anyway this opens up some intriguing possibilities depending on where this case goes. I felt like I had more to say about it, but I guess not. Mainly, I want kids to adhere to standards, and what the courts have found here is that there is insufficient regulation on homeschooling, and that it needs to change. Plus maybe if they go to some school dances away from parent supervision, they'll hold hands with a girl, which would be totally sweet.
Disclaimer: please just don't respond hysterically to how often I call homeschool kids weirdos, it's jokes mainly. Sort of. If you're honestly offended, I apologize, but I mean creationists are weirdos and many of them go to homeschool and so really, actually, nope -- not sorry.
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Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
Anyway I'll link that in the OP and mods can do as they please.