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I seem to remember the earlier battles (before I had an army at all and was fighting a bunch of river pirates) a lot like a wolf stalking a group of gazelle, except the gazelle were slow as fuck and were trying to eviscerate you. I'd run circles around them, occasionally making passes through the group cutting people down, waiting to find that one of them had been separated from the group. Then, I'd quickly move in and take them out and wait for another poor pirate to wander off on his own.
yeah, that's one of my favorite things ever
even better in the late game of the really old version when it's just you against like a dozen or so Dark Riders, and you're sprinting up and down the battlefield with a shitload of them trailing you, only to turn at the last second to get a single shot off, aimed squarely at the throat of the straggler at the end that didn't get out of the way in time.
i've almost always played archer in this game. Mother FUCK can you mess up doods with archery. Too bad you can only carry so many arrows into combat. It makes huge fights really difficult, unless you stick near your inventory, which i guess is realistic.
I also hated how if you killed an army of mounted men, you didn't get their horses after the fight. They just fucking disappeared or some shit
ALSO
Playing this game in first person view rather than third is so much harder and SO MUCH more rewarding.
When you raise your shield, you cannot see what's in front of you. Should you drop it now? what if that burly fucker is winding up for another swing? What about arrows? So awesome.
Being in the middle of a huge melee with first person view on is kinda terrifying
I started a new game as an archer. I'd forgotten how much archery dominates, especially if you're the only guy on horseback vs. a bunch of other guys on foot.
I recruited a few nord volunteers in a nearby town, and went off to take down some river pirates. Our first battle was 11 vs. 6, so fairly slanted in their favor. They kill two of my five men pretty quickly and incapacitate the other two, but I manage to take the rest down pretty easily.
So I decide to make camp so everyone could heal for the next battle. Only, some more river pirates happen to walk nearby and decide that I'm easy pickin's. Only one of my nord volunteers is able to fight, but I don't exactly want him to, so I just tell him to hold his position at the start.
I rush up to the river pirates, and run out of arrows halfway through, so I book it back to the start area and pick up some more, and plinking off the remaining pirates one by one.
I let the poor guy get the last kill. He was all "YEAH! WOOOOOO!" about it.
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited March 2008
I've never really played as an archer, but need to, especially now that I'm planning on doing more sieges. I've put points into my archery skill, and have a bow, but only have power draw 1 so far, so I need to work on that some more. I need me a fucking castle, goddamn it.
i always arched on foot. I keep a horse nearby if i run out of arrow, or i need to get back to my inventory, but i'm so much more accurate on foot that it makes up for it
the only hard part is going up against mounted opponents with unmounted archers, but cunning use of geography can negate their advantage.
"Our horses shall crush you beneath their hooves on the plains"
"Then we shall fight in the streams lolololol"
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
Bows used to be awesome up to a certain level.
Then, you couldn't get any arrows to do more than 1 damage, and that was against the infantry.
Now though, they're awesome all the way.
Also, nothing's more funny than riding fast as hell on a horse and nail a guy with a spiked mace right in the face.
Or killing people while you have a huge lance through your neck.
I think I'm just complete shit with ranged weapons in general because I don't know why everyone is saying archers kick lots of ass. it seems to be more effective to just ride by on a horse with a huge fuckin' axe
though throwing axes at an infantry man's face is pretty sweet
i got pretty high up in levels last time I played it but I think I just ran out of things to do. This was like two or three years ago though so there's probably a ton more shit to do now.
my favorite thing to do was lead my men into battle by running straight through the enemy line with my lance equipped, i would drop them like i was a god damned freight train, and then throwing axes into the backs of their heads while i get ready to do it again
then of course i would enslave the survivors and make a quick buck off of ruining their lives forever
i got pretty high up in levels last time I played it but I think I just ran out of things to do. This was like two or three years ago though so there's probably a ton more shit to do now.
my favorite thing to do was lead my men into battle by running straight through the enemy line with my lance equipped, i would drop them like i was a god damned freight train, and then throwing axes into the backs of their heads while i get ready to do it again
then of course i would enslave the survivors and make a quick buck off of ruining their lives forever
Enslaving people really is the best way to make money in the lower levels.
Also, I'm not sure If that last version I played was this one or the one before, but it seemed really fucking empty compared to previous versions, like half as many parties wandering around the map. Am I just crazy or what?
I think I'm just complete shit with ranged weapons in general because I don't know why everyone is saying archers kick lots of ass. it seems to be more effective to just ride by on a horse with a huge fuckin' axe
though throwing axes at an infantry man's face is pretty sweet
1 aim for the head
2. keep shooting
3. if they have shields and are mounted, shoot the horse
4. if they have shields and aren't mounted, let them get close enough to drop the shield, and put one in their eye
5. always have a sword equipped for if they sneak up on you
6. stick to trees, hills or streams to keep from getting steam rolled by mounted calvary
7. keep your armor light so that you can run fast. You need to be able to outrun everyone inorder to stay alive
8. bring lots of arrows
I seem to remember the earlier battles (before I had an army at all and was fighting a bunch of river pirates) a lot like a wolf stalking a group of gazelle, except the gazelle were slow as fuck and were trying to eviscerate you. I'd run circles around them, occasionally making passes through the group cutting people down, waiting to find that one of them had been separated from the group. Then, I'd quickly move in and take them out and wait for another poor pirate to wander off on his own.
yeah, that's one of my favorite things ever
even better in the late game of the really old version when it's just you against like a dozen or so Dark Riders, and you're sprinting up and down the battlefield with a shitload of them trailing you, only to turn at the last second to get a single shot off, aimed squarely at the throat of the straggler at the end that didn't get out of the way in time.
Hahaha yes. I think one of the greatest feelings in the world is when you're powerful enough to take down a Dark Rider with one hit (if you get them right in the face). That makes everything so much more enjoyable.
This game has delivered some of the most intense fights I've ever had in a game. Battles where my entire army has been wiped out by the Dark Riders that ambushed us, leaving only me left with my horse. Then, of course, at some point someone gets a lucky shot in and my horse goes down and I have to go GTA on someone's ass and steal their steed and use it against everyone else.
When I played the LotR mod I was primarily an archer and got really, really good at it. I remember I had the shot difficulty always pop up when I hit someone and the part shot difficulty was like 4-5 or so. Then I got a 15 once when I nailed a guy in the head from across the map while he was on his horse sprinting perpendicularly to me. It was amazing.
Seems the villagers in Bullin have been stiffing their noble Lord Reamald of his rightful taxes. I'm going to have to collect the 3000 they owe - the hard way if necessary.
I'm thinking yeah, I get to go slice up a defenseless village... but no, even better. I sit in the village collecting time for one day, when I'm informed of a revolt that I must put down. The battle? Myself and 4 of my men, armed only with bo-staffs, attacking 12 villagers with knives/sickles/rocks.
I think cracking those skulls with wooden sticks was more fun than riding in and cutting anyone down.
RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited March 2008
holy shit, this game is so good
so on my lunchbreak, I decide to siege a nearby castle. Grab a crossbow and a buttload of bolts, pull my men to behind a hill so they don't get hit, then position myself behind some rocks and plink at the guards in a war of attrition. Raised my crossbow skill from 50 to 130 in a couple of battles and brought the guards' numbers down from 97 to 60. When I get home, more of the same until it is only like 20 or so guards, then grab my trusty bastard sword and axe and storm the walls.
Fuck yes, son.
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
do your soldiers have names or are they just randomly spawned npcs?
i like when they are named because then 20 hours in you're like, OH NO FRANK DIED HE'S BEEN LOYAL SINCE THE BEGINNING!
That reminds me of X-com. Naming my characters after my friends and hoping they didn't get shot.
There are a couple of hero characters that don't die and have names, but they're mostly faceless grunts.
Faceless grunts my ass, I've got two heroes in my party that are stone-cold badasses. I was fighting a lord's host last night and withered it down to six remaining soldiers, then pulled everyone back and let my cavalry take up the job. Fucking heroes took down all six of them on the first shot each. Just all chaaaaaaaarge chop dead chop dead chop dead chop dead oh hells yes.
Seems the villagers in Bullin have been stiffing their noble Lord Reamald of his rightful taxes. I'm going to have to collect the 3000 they owe - the hard way if necessary.
I'm thinking yeah, I get to go slice up a defenseless village... but no, even better. I sit in the village collecting time for one day, when I'm informed of a revolt that I must put down. The battle? Myself and 4 of my men, armed only with bo-staffs, attacking 12 villagers with knives/sickles/rocks.
I think cracking those skulls with wooden sticks was more fun than riding in and cutting anyone down.
I hate to say it, but that seems remarkably unthreatening. The only time I did a tax collection quest, it was me and my 4 Hirelings against 40 something peasents. So much blood. Got the damn taxes though.
RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited March 2008
yeah fuck the rhodoks
so I finished my siege of the castle, and was granted it as part of my ever-growing estate, along with a nearby village which generates a considerable amount of income. Next up, top of my garrison with 100 archers and footmen, then begin raiding the next castle nearby.
god damn I love this game.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
edited March 2008
Dammit Rank how are you seiging castles
I'm on like day 200 and castle sieges end up with my 60-ish men dying and that's about it
RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited March 2008
wars of attrition, man
find a good spot, get out your crossbow, pull your guys back so they ain't getting slaughtered and fuckin plunk plunk plunk until they go from having a guard of 90 men to having like 30
then storm the gates
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited March 2008
seriously, its ridiculous, I've raised my crossbow skill just from this one siege from like 50 points to over 200. 6.4 difficulty headshots rank your skill up like mad.
god dammit, M&B's not starting and it's giving me some shit about it won't render because the device has an incomplete reference and to install the directx sdk
i installed new drivers and everything and i still get it, what the fuck
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yeah, that's one of my favorite things ever
even better in the late game of the really old version when it's just you against like a dozen or so Dark Riders, and you're sprinting up and down the battlefield with a shitload of them trailing you, only to turn at the last second to get a single shot off, aimed squarely at the throat of the straggler at the end that didn't get out of the way in time.
I also hated how if you killed an army of mounted men, you didn't get their horses after the fight. They just fucking disappeared or some shit
ALSO
Playing this game in first person view rather than third is so much harder and SO MUCH more rewarding.
When you raise your shield, you cannot see what's in front of you. Should you drop it now? what if that burly fucker is winding up for another swing? What about arrows? So awesome.
Being in the middle of a huge melee with first person view on is kinda terrifying
I recruited a few nord volunteers in a nearby town, and went off to take down some river pirates. Our first battle was 11 vs. 6, so fairly slanted in their favor. They kill two of my five men pretty quickly and incapacitate the other two, but I manage to take the rest down pretty easily.
So I decide to make camp so everyone could heal for the next battle. Only, some more river pirates happen to walk nearby and decide that I'm easy pickin's. Only one of my nord volunteers is able to fight, but I don't exactly want him to, so I just tell him to hold his position at the start.
I rush up to the river pirates, and run out of arrows halfway through, so I book it back to the start area and pick up some more, and plinking off the remaining pirates one by one.
I let the poor guy get the last kill. He was all "YEAH! WOOOOOO!" about it.
the only hard part is going up against mounted opponents with unmounted archers, but cunning use of geography can negate their advantage.
"Our horses shall crush you beneath their hooves on the plains"
"Then we shall fight in the streams lolololol"
Enjoyable, but it needs to get better before I hit level 6 for me to buy it.
the game really gets awesome the higher you go. 6 isn't high enough, you need to be rolling with your dozens of troops. THEN it gets awesome.
If you use level 6 as an indicator, you may not buy it.
but you SHOULD buy it.
You see my issue, don't you?
hey why don't you pop into, say, the south park thread and tell us more about how you're doing in mass effect, we're all dying to know.
Then, you couldn't get any arrows to do more than 1 damage, and that was against the infantry.
Now though, they're awesome all the way.
Also, nothing's more funny than riding fast as hell on a horse and nail a guy with a spiked mace right in the face.
Or killing people while you have a huge lance through your neck.
I sense a purchase in the near future.
I just had a lot of fun. I may just purchase this when I get paid. Its pretty sweet. All hacking the sea pirates to pieces/
though throwing axes at an infantry man's face is pretty sweet
my favorite thing to do was lead my men into battle by running straight through the enemy line with my lance equipped, i would drop them like i was a god damned freight train, and then throwing axes into the backs of their heads while i get ready to do it again
then of course i would enslave the survivors and make a quick buck off of ruining their lives forever
Fallout... never change.
Also, I'm not sure If that last version I played was this one or the one before, but it seemed really fucking empty compared to previous versions, like half as many parties wandering around the map. Am I just crazy or what?
800 person parties casually walking by as you wander around, level 10 at best.
1 aim for the head
2. keep shooting
3. if they have shields and are mounted, shoot the horse
4. if they have shields and aren't mounted, let them get close enough to drop the shield, and put one in their eye
5. always have a sword equipped for if they sneak up on you
6. stick to trees, hills or streams to keep from getting steam rolled by mounted calvary
7. keep your armor light so that you can run fast. You need to be able to outrun everyone inorder to stay alive
8. bring lots of arrows
Hahaha yes. I think one of the greatest feelings in the world is when you're powerful enough to take down a Dark Rider with one hit (if you get them right in the face). That makes everything so much more enjoyable.
This game has delivered some of the most intense fights I've ever had in a game. Battles where my entire army has been wiped out by the Dark Riders that ambushed us, leaving only me left with my horse. Then, of course, at some point someone gets a lucky shot in and my horse goes down and I have to go GTA on someone's ass and steal their steed and use it against everyone else.
When I played the LotR mod I was primarily an archer and got really, really good at it. I remember I had the shot difficulty always pop up when I hit someone and the part shot difficulty was like 4-5 or so. Then I got a 15 once when I nailed a guy in the head from across the map while he was on his horse sprinting perpendicularly to me. It was amazing.
turning on shot difficulty is SO AWESOME
Seems the villagers in Bullin have been stiffing their noble Lord Reamald of his rightful taxes. I'm going to have to collect the 3000 they owe - the hard way if necessary.
I'm thinking yeah, I get to go slice up a defenseless village... but no, even better. I sit in the village collecting time for one day, when I'm informed of a revolt that I must put down. The battle? Myself and 4 of my men, armed only with bo-staffs, attacking 12 villagers with knives/sickles/rocks.
I think cracking those skulls with wooden sticks was more fun than riding in and cutting anyone down.
i like when they are named because then 20 hours in you're like, OH NO FRANK DIED HE'S BEEN LOYAL SINCE THE BEGINNING!
That reminds me of X-com. Naming my characters after my friends and hoping they didn't get shot.
There are a couple of hero characters that don't die and have names, but they're mostly faceless grunts.
so on my lunchbreak, I decide to siege a nearby castle. Grab a crossbow and a buttload of bolts, pull my men to behind a hill so they don't get hit, then position myself behind some rocks and plink at the guards in a war of attrition. Raised my crossbow skill from 50 to 130 in a couple of battles and brought the guards' numbers down from 97 to 60. When I get home, more of the same until it is only like 20 or so guards, then grab my trusty bastard sword and axe and storm the walls.
Fuck yes, son.
Faceless grunts my ass, I've got two heroes in my party that are stone-cold badasses. I was fighting a lord's host last night and withered it down to six remaining soldiers, then pulled everyone back and let my cavalry take up the job. Fucking heroes took down all six of them on the first shot each. Just all chaaaaaaaarge chop dead chop dead chop dead chop dead oh hells yes.
I hate to say it, but that seems remarkably unthreatening. The only time I did a tax collection quest, it was me and my 4 Hirelings against 40 something peasents. So much blood. Got the damn taxes though.
I am thinking about siding with the Khergits because I hate fighting their annoying horse archers. Might as well have them on my side.
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Also because I like to kill Rhodoks
Man fuck Rhodoks
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I agree about the Nords being awesome, but why the Rhodok hate?
so I finished my siege of the castle, and was granted it as part of my ever-growing estate, along with a nearby village which generates a considerable amount of income. Next up, top of my garrison with 100 archers and footmen, then begin raiding the next castle nearby.
god damn I love this game.
I'm on like day 200 and castle sieges end up with my 60-ish men dying and that's about it
find a good spot, get out your crossbow, pull your guys back so they ain't getting slaughtered and fuckin plunk plunk plunk until they go from having a guard of 90 men to having like 30
then storm the gates
Though sometimes I will switch out my bow and arrows for a throwing weapon and a shield
Especially when I'm fighting a bunch of crossbowmen
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i installed new drivers and everything and i still get it, what the fuck