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Charlton Heston dead at age 84

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Mechis wrote: »
    Heston was awesome.

    I like to think he represented a bizarre sort of Hollywood karma, heading the NRA to balance out all the lefties in the movie industry. That way they break even.

    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    Man, who pissed in your cheerios? The guy made movies and supported educated, lawful gun ownership. You act like he was out raping babies while dressed as Hitler.

    Supporting individual gun rights legislation (which is now likely to be SCOTUS precedent) is actually worse than shooting someone in the face. Didnt' you get the memo?

    moniker on
  • Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Mechis wrote: »
    Heston was awesome.

    I like to think he represented a bizarre sort of Hollywood karma, heading the NRA to balance out all the lefties in the movie industry. That way they break even.

    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too. Denny Crane.

    Satan. on
  • MechisMechis Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    All I mean is that there are liberals in hollywood, and then there is Charleton Heston and Tom Selleck, evening out the PH levels, so that we can hear both extremes of the matter and nothing in between.

    No point in arguing about gun crime though, you have your coughwrongcough opinion, and I have my good opinion, nothing will change that.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Mechis wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    All I mean is that there are liberals in hollywood, and then there is Charleton Heston and Tom Selleck, evening out the PH levels, so that we can hear both extremes of the matter and nothing in between.

    No point in arguing about gun crime though, you have your coughwrongcough opinion, and I have my good opinion, nothing will change that.

    Hey.

    Don't forget Kurt Russell.

    Duki on
  • MechisMechis Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Really? Sweet.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Is Kirk Cameron supposed to counter the godless heathen secularists, or the Scientologists?

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Fuck Charlton Heston. I'm not saying he deserved to die, or that I'm glad he's dead, but I am saying that it's my opinion that he didn't do much to make the world a better place while he was here.

    The dude picketed his own movie because the theater it was showing in was segregated.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Fuck Charlton Heston. I'm not saying he deserved to die, or that I'm glad he's dead, but I am saying that it's my opinion that he didn't do much to make the world a better place while he was here.

    The dude picketed his own movie because the theater it was showing in was segregated.

    But he liked guns so you know, obviously he was pure evil.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    On that subject, now that his hands are cold and dead, can we take 'em?

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Scalfin wrote: »
    On that subject, now that his hands are cold and dead, can we take 'em?

    I hate to tell you this, but everyone else has already made this joke.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    Scalfin wrote: »
    On that subject, now that his hands are cold and dead, can we take 'em?

    I hate to tell you this, but everyone else has already made this joke.

    You can take my humour from my cold, dead jokes!

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Didn't Heston give a lot of money and support to the Civil Rights movement?

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    People not PURE ASS nor PURE AWESOME, news at 11.

    Also, regardless of what kind of person he was, he deserves the jokes for saying that line without a hint of self-irony.

    Glal on
  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Cervetus wrote: »
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

    Yeah, because the Second Amendment clearly states that all individuals have the unrestricted personal right to firearms. Oh, wait...

    There may be a difference between the NRA's stance and Heston's personal one, but if he was willing to subordinate whatever he believed to the lobbying agenda, he can't have been all that dedicated.

    I didn't hear about the picketing thing, though. That's cool.

    Alecthar on
  • TalonrazorTalonrazor Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Man, Heston was so awesome. Dude was straight up awesome from young to old. A real hero of mine and I'm really sad to see him go.

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

    I didn't hear about the picketing thing, though. That's cool.
    Its okay, we don't blame you for being an ignorant pickleface who thinks people should die without justifiable reasoning...

    Wulf on
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  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Wulf wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

    I didn't hear about the picketing thing, though. That's cool.
    Its okay, we don't blame you for being an ignorant pickleface who thinks people should die without justifiable reasoning...

    I didn't say that he should die, just that I don't think what he chose to do with much of his life (NRA) was of any help to his country, or indeed, his species.

    ...Pickleface?

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

    Yeah, because the Second Amendment clearly states that all individuals have the unrestricted personal right to firearms. Oh, wait...

    There may be a difference between the NRA's stance and Heston's personal one, but if he was willing to subordinate whatever he believed to the lobbying agenda, he can't have been all that dedicated.

    I didn't hear about the picketing thing, though. That's cool.
    Actually the Second Amendment doesn't clearly state anything, which is why there's so much debate over what it states, and so much interpretation in the law. Your interpretation doesn't make you right.

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  • Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

    Yeah, because the Second Amendment clearly states that all individuals have the unrestricted personal right to firearms. Oh, wait...

    There may be a difference between the NRA's stance and Heston's personal one, but if he was willing to subordinate whatever he believed to the lobbying agenda, he can't have been all that dedicated.

    I didn't hear about the picketing thing, though. That's cool.
    Actually the Second Amendment doesn't clearly state anything, which is why there's so much debate over what it states, and so much interpretation in the law. Your interpretation doesn't make you right.
    The Second Amendment is always in limbo. It's constantly argued over. Hell, people can't agree if a fucking comma is actually in there or not as it appears with and without it depending on what document of the time you're reading.

    Satan. on
  • MechisMechis Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Satan. wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    You know those evil right-wing nutjobs and their civil rights.

    Yeah, because the Second Amendment clearly states that all individuals have the unrestricted personal right to firearms. Oh, wait...

    There may be a difference between the NRA's stance and Heston's personal one, but if he was willing to subordinate whatever he believed to the lobbying agenda, he can't have been all that dedicated.

    I didn't hear about the picketing thing, though. That's cool.
    Actually the Second Amendment doesn't clearly state anything, which is why there's so much debate over what it states, and so much interpretation in the law. Your interpretation doesn't make you right.
    The Second Amendment is always in limbo. It's constantly argued over. Hell, people can't agree if a fucking comma is actually in there or not as it appears with and without it depending on what document of the time you're reading.

    I think the glory of the United States is that there are people on either side, adamant about their opinion, so that whatever happens, it takes years for either side to win. When things happen to quickly people get angry and start killing and warring on each other.

    When we've got Heston and the Bushes on one side, and the Clintons and the Screen Actors Guild on the other side, guns cannot be outlawed, but autos and silencers are too hard to acquire.

    The thing that bothers me is the fluctuations. During a Clinton reign I can not go out and buy anything higher then a ten round magazine, and alecthar gets some chuckles with his buddies. During the Bush reign, I get to buy whatever I want, and my friends get the lulz.

    Mechis on
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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Mechis wrote: »
    Heston was awesome.

    I like to think he represented a bizarre sort of Hollywood karma, heading the NRA to balance out all the lefties in the movie industry. That way they break even.

    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    Man, who pissed in your cheerios? The guy made movies and supported educated, lawful gun ownership. You act like he was out raping babies while dressed as Hitler.

    Supporting individual gun rights legislation (which is now likely to be SCOTUS precedent) is actually worse than shooting someone in the face. Didnt' you get the memo?

    Especially since the NRA has a school curriculum about gun safety, of which the points it constantly drives home are:

    1) If you find a gun, don't touch it.
    2) Tell the nearest adult.
    3) Don't touch the fucking gun JUST LEAVE IT THERE

    FyreWulff on
  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Mechis wrote: »
    Heston was awesome.

    I like to think he represented a bizarre sort of Hollywood karma, heading the NRA to balance out all the lefties in the movie industry. That way they break even.

    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    Man, who pissed in your cheerios? The guy made movies and supported educated, lawful gun ownership. You act like he was out raping babies while dressed as Hitler.

    Supporting individual gun rights legislation (which is now likely to be SCOTUS precedent) is actually worse than shooting someone in the face. Didnt' you get the memo?

    Especially since the NRA has a school curriculum about gun safety, of which the points it constantly drives home are:

    1) If you find a gun, don't touch it.
    2) Tell the nearest adult.
    3) Don't touch the fucking gun JUST LEAVE IT THERE

    Those callus bastards! Telling our children not to touch guns! What monsters! :lol:

    Wulf on
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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Wulf wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Mechis wrote: »
    Heston was awesome.

    I like to think he represented a bizarre sort of Hollywood karma, heading the NRA to balance out all the lefties in the movie industry. That way they break even.

    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    Man, who pissed in your cheerios? The guy made movies and supported educated, lawful gun ownership. You act like he was out raping babies while dressed as Hitler.

    Supporting individual gun rights legislation (which is now likely to be SCOTUS precedent) is actually worse than shooting someone in the face. Didnt' you get the memo?

    Especially since the NRA has a school curriculum about gun safety, of which the points it constantly drives home are:

    1) If you find a gun, don't touch it.
    2) Tell the nearest adult.
    3) Don't touch the fucking gun JUST LEAVE IT THERE

    Those callus bastards! Telling our children not to touch guns! What monsters! :lol:

    You forgot the part where they teach the children how to shoot, probably shortly before or after sending support to Jack Thompson for getting rid of video games he says teach kids to shoot.

    And how is "cold, dead hands" responsible ownership?

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Scalfin wrote: »
    Wulf wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Mechis wrote: »
    Heston was awesome.

    I like to think he represented a bizarre sort of Hollywood karma, heading the NRA to balance out all the lefties in the movie industry. That way they break even.

    Only if you consider aiding and abetting gun crime in the US some kind of karmic retribution for irritating self-righteousness. Though he had that too, in spades.
    Man, who pissed in your cheerios? The guy made movies and supported educated, lawful gun ownership. You act like he was out raping babies while dressed as Hitler.

    Supporting individual gun rights legislation (which is now likely to be SCOTUS precedent) is actually worse than shooting someone in the face. Didnt' you get the memo?

    Especially since the NRA has a school curriculum about gun safety, of which the points it constantly drives home are:

    1) If you find a gun, don't touch it.
    2) Tell the nearest adult.
    3) Don't touch the fucking gun JUST LEAVE IT THERE

    Those callus bastards! Telling our children not to touch guns! What monsters! :lol:

    You forgot the part where they teach the children how to shoot, probably shortly before or after sending support to Jack Thompson for getting rid of video games he says teach kids to shoot.

    And how is "cold, dead hands" responsible ownership?

    Yes because teaching people how to use a weapon that is going to be in a house is SUCH a bad thing. Horrible, worse than rape. Instead we should just never let them touch it and just hope they don't get curious enough to one day try to use it on their own and blow their heads off.

    Also, the cold, dead hands comment was pretty responsible, in the same why someone might say 'you're going to have to take my right to vote from my cold, dead hands'.

    Defending personal beliefs, I never knew that would be irresponsible.

    Kagera on
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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Scalfin wrote: »
    You forgot the part where they teach the children how to shoot, probably shortly before or after sending support to Jack Thompson for getting rid of video games he says teach kids to shoot.

    Got like a source or something?

    Cervetus on
  • RchanenRchanen Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You know what really pisses me off?

    Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's.

    My fucking favorite author.

    God Damnit.

    Rchanen on
  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Alecthar wrote: »
    I didn't say that he should die, just that I don't think what he chose to do with much of his life (NRA) was of any help to his country, or indeed, his species.
    He was born in 1923. He lobbied for the 1968 gun control act. He wasn't involved with the NRA until the late 80s and wasn't president of the NRA until 1998 and retired from, well, everything, in 2003. Define "much." 20 years out of 85?

    It took me all of 2 minutes to find that on Wikipedia.

    GungHo on
  • PeekingDuckPeekingDuck __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    He was also a civil rights advocate. Generally for all personal liberties, both not hating the black folk and for responsible gun ownership. Imagine, people being trusted to do the right thing.

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