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Redoing the bathroom.

PussumPussum Registered User regular
edited April 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So I am thinking about redoing my bathroom in the near future. When we purchased the house about two years ago I wondered why the lady we were buying the house from was being so accommodating and pretty much bending over backwards to get us into the house. Well it all became apparent about six months ago when I was getting out of the shower and almost put my foot through the floor because it had become soft and water damaged. We called out an inspector and wouldn't you know it, the pipe work from the tub that runs under the floor was so corroded that it was literally gushing with water all into the sub flooring of the bathroom and just under the tile on the floor. It wasn't leaking into the basement because all the water was being absorbed into the floor. We caught it, but the damage has been done. The floor is soft enough and brittle enough to fall through if enough weight were to be put in that one corner by the shower.

It wasn't caught by the house inspector that came in to inspect before we bought the house so there was no way in hell I was going to find it. We also use that bathroom maybe once a month since the master bathroom is much more spacious and accommodating. Any way we have decided we are going to strip the room to the studs and joists and just rebuild. She has style and I, well . . . I wanted to do the bathroom in a Mario Bro's theme so that should tell you where my style level is right now. Anyway, I need some help. She wants some input from me (she being my future-wife). I know I really like those bowl shaped sinks that sit on top of a pedestal or cabinet. I really like those sinks and I like walk in showers. So I am asking for a little help/advice on everything basically. I am hoping the style guru's of PA can assist me in choosing some really good hardware for the bathroom. The color scheme is up in the air at the moment so the sky is the limit right now on what we can do.

Tl:dR - BATHROOM ROYALLY FUCKED. NEED INPUT ON REPLACEMT STUFF!

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  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    How big is the bathroom? Do you have any pictures? I just helped my parents redo their bathroom with nice new tile and a sweet walk in shower complete with seat.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Yeah, a picture of the bathroom would definitely help, so we could see what kind of space there is to work with.

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  • PussumPussum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Thats cool. I will snap a few when I get home. It isn't a large bathroom by any means, but putting in a walk in shower and just knocking out the joke of a closet we have in there will free up quite a bit more room to work with. Off hand it is about around 10 feet long and maybe six feet wide (at the most).

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    Thats a quick mock up of what it looks like. I will get into more detail when I take some pictures, but thats the frame of what it looks like. We started to paint it and what not, but found the drywall was not bathroom drywall, which is water proofed, so we had to stop that as well.

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  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Looks like yuo could move the sink over by the door, thus giving you more room for a bigger shower or just more room in general.

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  • PussumPussum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Looks like yuo could move the sink over by the door, thus giving you more room for a bigger shower or just more room in general.

    The room is a lot more thin than that picture lets on. The placement of the sink, toilet, and shower are fine with us. It is just so bland and broken down right now it is depressing. By putting in a walk in shower we can add about another foot of room since there will be no bulky tub and just standing room for a shower. If we were to knock out the closet by the door that would add another foot of depth by the toilet and alleviate me having to smash my hand against the handle of the closet door as I walk into the bathroom everytime because it won't be RIGHT THERE as I open the door.

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  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Pussum wrote: »
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Looks like yuo could move the sink over by the door, thus giving you more room for a bigger shower or just more room in general.

    The room is a lot more thin than that picture lets on. The placement of the sink, toilet, and shower are fine with us. It is just so bland and broken down right now it is depressing. By putting in a walk in shower we can add about another foot of room since there will be no bulky tub and just standing room for a shower. If we were to knock out the closet by the door that would add another foot of depth by the toilet and alleviate me having to smash my hand against the handle of the closet door as I walk into the bathroom everytime because it won't be RIGHT THERE as I open the door.

    I see. You should totally get one of those rain showerheads, those kick ass. Also make sure the shower is big enough to fool around in!

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  • DesertBoxDesertBox Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You say think that the seller knew the bathroom was a timebomb? If you could prove she knew it and since she obviously didn't disclose it at the time of sale, you'd have a great case to sue. At least where I live, that would be the case.

    As for remodeling advice, we have formica countertops and we really like them. Tile is nice and attractive, but grout is a bitch to clean. We also have an opaque shower door, as opposed to a clear one, because clear doors will show every little bit of soap scum after every shower, even if you cleaned them daily.

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  • DesertBoxDesertBox Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Pussum wrote: »
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Looks like yuo could move the sink over by the door, thus giving you more room for a bigger shower or just more room in general.

    The room is a lot more thin than that picture lets on. The placement of the sink, toilet, and shower are fine with us. It is just so bland and broken down right now it is depressing. By putting in a walk in shower we can add about another foot of room since there will be no bulky tub and just standing room for a shower. If we were to knock out the closet by the door that would add another foot of depth by the toilet and alleviate me having to smash my hand against the handle of the closet door as I walk into the bathroom everytime because it won't be RIGHT THERE as I open the door.

    I see. You should totally get one of those rain showerheads, those kick ass. Also make sure the shower is big enough to fool around in!

    I find that those shower heads don't give enough water pressure for my liking. However, lots of people love them.

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  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    DesertBox wrote: »
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Pussum wrote: »
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Looks like yuo could move the sink over by the door, thus giving you more room for a bigger shower or just more room in general.

    The room is a lot more thin than that picture lets on. The placement of the sink, toilet, and shower are fine with us. It is just so bland and broken down right now it is depressing. By putting in a walk in shower we can add about another foot of room since there will be no bulky tub and just standing room for a shower. If we were to knock out the closet by the door that would add another foot of depth by the toilet and alleviate me having to smash my hand against the handle of the closet door as I walk into the bathroom everytime because it won't be RIGHT THERE as I open the door.

    I see. You should totally get one of those rain showerheads, those kick ass. Also make sure the shower is big enough to fool around in!

    I find that those shower heads don't give enough water pressure for my liking. However, lots of people love them.

    I like the amount of pressure out of mine, but mostly its just a really relaxing comforting feeling having warm rain basically come down on you. And I am all about relaxing in the shower.

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  • embrikembrik Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Kohler makes a lot of the fixtures you're interested in, and they are excellent, quality-wise. However, they're often more expensive. Just warning you. :)

    Also, their site has a bunch of good resources for planning, etc. (including the "Virtual Bathroom Planner"!)

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  • PussumPussum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    I see. You should totally get one of those rain showerheads, those kick ass. Also make sure the shower is big enough to fool around in!

    Haha, don't you worry about that. We gotta have room to break that shit in right when it is finished for sure.

    DesertBox wrote: »
    You say think that the seller knew the bathroom was a timebomb? If you could prove she knew it and since she obviously didn't disclose it at the time of sale, you'd have a great case to sue. At least where I live, that would be the case.

    As for remodeling advice, we have formica countertops and we really like them. Tile is nice and attractive, but grout is a bitch to clean. We also have an opaque shower door, as opposed to a clear one, because clear doors will show every little bit of soap scum after every shower, even if you cleaned them daily.

    I'm a clean freak so that isn't an issue with me. I work my eight hours and then go home and work another 3 cleaning everyday. It relaxes me.

    I'm pretty sure the seller knew what was going on, but I believe we fell into the statute of limitations on this since we didn't really realize it until after two years. Its a bitch, but whatever. We are dealing with it the best we can. We have also started to notice leaks under the kitchen sink and a leak in the pipes down in the basement. They don't constantly leak but if the pipes aren't utilized on a constant basis they will start to build up with pressure and leak.

    It's a bitch, and at times it makes me reconsider having bought the house, but what can you do. She jumped ship just in time for things to blow up in our face and really, if the government authorized housing contractor couldn't find it she could just as easily make the argument that she didn't know what was going on.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    do you guys have a second bathroom/bathtub? Walk-in showers are fine and dandy, but having no tub will reduce the value of your house tbh.

    For style stuff, why not just peruse the net for some bathroom styles you like. Find a style or two you both like, see how you can replicate something similar for cheap. Or start watching home renovation shows :D I really like that kind of show, personally. Holmes on homes in hilarious and he does some really pretty work (dunno if he puts up lots of pictures though)

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The most important element for style is consistency. You can have shiny brass, polished pewter, chrome, whatever -- just make sure that your shit matches. So if you have a chrome faucet, get a chrome towel loop & bar, chrome shower stuff, and so on. You can usually buy full sets, so you even get matching styles (squares, curves, etc.)

    You pick this stuff up by simply going to the stores and looking at all the different bits they sell. Spend a chunk of time at Lowes or similar and just look at tile, sinks, faucets, and so on. Don't fixate on one thing -- look for what you fnd appealing, and then see if you can find something with those similar qualities in another element.

    Bathrooms are usually pretty cheap unless you go all out, and the fact that you're not getting a tub makes installation easier, too. Pedestal sinks are popular lately; just make sure you get something that either has a wide rim so you can rest things on it (like contact cases) or have a table nearby for the purpose.

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  • PussumPussum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    What we plan on doing is finding a good "center piece" and working around it. So say we get a bowl sink we are going to go with that design, shape, and theme for the whole bathroom. Everything we do is going to compliment our "center piece". We plan on incorporating the subtle style more than anything else. Things that won't detract from the attention getting piece in the room. For me it will be a toss up between really really nice and stylish tile or a kick ass bowl sink as the center piece we will work from.

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  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    downsides of bowls sitting on a countertop, least in UK is 1. they are so last week, and 2. smaller than a normal sink. what about a wetroom since you're having to strip it right down? you could tank the room first=instant wetroom opportunity!

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  • PussumPussum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The sinks are just now really starting to get popular over here and I am not quite sure what a wetroom is?

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  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    a wet room is a shower without a tray or door, the floor acts as the tray;
    http://wetroom.org/

    www.diywetroom.com

    https://www.aquatecnic.info/index.php?gclid=CO6f_oL93pICFQhRMAod8jT25w&option=com_content&task=view&id=16372&Itemid=104

    are just a few websites you could look at.

    isn't fashion funny - i had an ensuite built in my bedroom just over a year ago, and had to work hard to resist very trendy stuff, as i knew it would date quicker than i could blink. i'm planning an ensuite in my daughter's room next (after she's moved out!), and may go down the wetroom route there.

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    embrik wrote: »
    Kohler makes a lot of the fixtures you're interested in, and they are excellent, quality-wise. However, they're often more expensive. Just warning you. :)

    Also, their site has a bunch of good resources for planning, etc. (including the "Virtual Bathroom Planner"!)
    Kohler is the Nike of pluming fixtures--you're really just paying for the brand name. That said, I couldn't recommend a different brand for a sink, as long as it's not some cheap POS like Crane or Glacier Bay.

    Get a Toto toilet. As far as hardware goes, go with Grohe if you can afford to splurge a bit (otherwise, stick with American Standard). You could potentially build a tile shower enclosure, which are very nice, but you may just end up taking a few measurements and buying a premade surround at Home Depot.

    Also keep in mind that the old water lines have to be replaced. That'll add a thousand or two more to the cost.

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    a wet room is a shower without a tray or door, the floor acts as the tray;
    http://wetroom.org/

    https://www.aquatecnic.info/index.php?gclid=CO6f_oL93pICFQhRMAod8jT25w&option=com_content&task=view&id=16372&Itemid=104

    are just a few websites you could look at.

    isn't fashion funny - i had an ensuite built in my bedroom just over a year ago, and had to work hard to resist very trendy stuff, as i knew it would date quicker than i could blink. i'm planning an ensuite in my daughter's room next (after she's moved out!), and may go down the wetroom route there.
    :D

    I was just going to recommend a wetroom. With such a small bathroom it'd offer up a lot more space and since you're having to re-do the floor anyway I can't imagine it'll be that great of an expense/hassle.

    Plus if you ever have elderly or wheelchair bound guests, you've just made life a little easier for them. ;)

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  • PussumPussum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Janson wrote: »
    a wet room is a shower without a tray or door, the floor acts as the tray;
    http://wetroom.org/

    https://www.aquatecnic.info/index.php?gclid=CO6f_oL93pICFQhRMAod8jT25w&option=com_content&task=view&id=16372&Itemid=104

    are just a few websites you could look at.

    isn't fashion funny - i had an ensuite built in my bedroom just over a year ago, and had to work hard to resist very trendy stuff, as i knew it would date quicker than i could blink. i'm planning an ensuite in my daughter's room next (after she's moved out!), and may go down the wetroom route there.
    :D

    I was just going to recommend a wetroom. With such a small bathroom it'd offer up a lot more space and since you're having to re-do the floor anyway I can't imagine it'll be that great of an expense/hassle.

    Plus if you ever have elderly or wheelchair bound guests, you've just made life a little easier for them. ;)


    We are planning on doing a walk in shower which would be pretty close to a wetroom, but I just don't know if I can be all exposed showering without any door or curtain or small wall up. It sounds like it would feel quite odd just to be in there doing the deed without any cover. BUT well worth investigating since as of right now all options are open.

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  • SlagmireSlagmire Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I think you might have more pressing issues currently and remodeling should be a little further down on your list of priorities.

    1) Are the house's frame planks water damaged as well as the plywood flooring in the bathroom?
    2) Is there any noticable warping?
    3) Is there any mold happening?
    4) Do the pipes need replacing? What kind of pipes do you have in the house now (copper or PVC)?

    From the sound of it, if the problems started before you bought the house, I would think you would have noticed the problem much earlier.

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