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Legal question with work

mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
edited April 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey, first off, I'll just say this in Australia, Victoria, if it matters.

I have a question for a few of you budding lawyers here. Basically, last night me and a few friends went to a pub but got told to leave, because my friend works at the local bottle shop down the road, and it is owned by the same manager. He is on his own time, not in uniform or anything, on a Friday night. Apparently they told him he isn't allowed to be seen drinking in that area, go to pubs in that area, or even play the pokies. If he does, he gets fired.

Personally, this raised a red flag for me and sounded like a load of shit. Is it? Is there anything he can do about this?

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  • Shark_MegaByteShark_MegaByte Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Well, he should take a look back at his contract / employment paperwork first thing, and see if he signed anything agreeing to that when he got hired.

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  • GameHatGameHat Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Hey, first off, I'll just say this in Australia, Victoria, if it matters.

    I have a question for a few of you budding lawyers here. Basically, last night me and a few friends went to a pub but got told to leave, because my friend works at the local bottle shop down the road, and it is owned by the same manager. He is on his own time, not in uniform or anything, on a Friday night. Apparently they told him he isn't allowed to be seen drinking in that area, go to pubs in that area, or even play the pokies. If he does, he gets fired.

    Personally, this raised a red flag for me and sounded like a load of shit. Is it? Is there anything he can do about this?

    Does Australia have similar laws to the US, where employment is "at will" of the employer?

    In the US, every job I have ever had I have had to sign a document stating that I can be fired "at will" and similarly have the right to quit "at will"

    The only thing that the law protects is a firing (or demotion or something) based on race, religion, physical disability, etc.

    At least in the US, the above statement - "If I see you drinking or gambling near our establishment you will be fired" would be completely legal.

    ...but I'm no expert on Australian law.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    We don't have at-will employment. Casual employment can be left at any time, but you can't get fired for bullshit reasons.

    There are some jobs where you sign a contract stating you won't do certain things - I know you can't work as a croupier and still go into the casinos owned by your employer, for instance, because its presumed you know all the tricks and will have an unfair advantage. If your mate didn't sign something like that when he started the job, its a bullshit command. He can quit, or go to his union if he's a member. Not sure about fighting the command, but he should go to http://www.workplace.gov.au/workplace/ and do some reading, I think. The Workplace Ombudsman might be useful too.

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    If you don't have at-will employment, and he didn't sign the contract, then you should be able to fight it, or at least damage the company somehow. Here in Canada, say, if I were to get fired for a bullshit reason, I could take it up with the BBB (Better Business Bureau) and they would intervene. Whether I would be able to sue or force re-hired I don't know, but the company would definately suffer repercussions.

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