Do you ever stop to think how much has happened in 21th century?

DarkCrawler

It has only lasted for 8 years or so, and we have already had...

9/11 and the fallout from it, War on Terrorism
The War in Afganistan
The War in Iraq, 1 million dead already
Independence of Kosovo
2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, 310,000 dead
Katrina
Myanmar cyclone + China earthquakes, death toll may reach 150,000
God knows how many assassinations and such around the globe. Important people dying.

Are you ever worried about what has happened by the time you are fifty or something? Because I just came to that realization. It's kind of scary.

The Cat

People keep having 5th/10th-15th anniversaries of things, and I'm all "...didn't that happen last week?"

yalborap

DarkCrawler wrote: »

It has only lasted for 8 years or so, and we have already had...

9/11 and the fallout from it, War on Terrorism
The War in Afganistan
The War in Iraq, 1 million dead already
Independence of Kosovo
2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, 310,000 dead
Katrina
Myanmar cyclone + China earthquakes, death toll may reach 150,000
God knows how many assassinations and such around the globe. Important people dying.

Are you ever worried about what has happened by the time you are fifty or something? Because I just came to that realization. It's kind of scary.

Yes.

Then I realize Youtube came about, and then I start thinking of all the crazy revolutionary helpful shit the internet has wrought.

Then I remember 4chan, and I'm scared again.

MKR

Eight years is a long time. It's not really all that surprising to me.

Nakatomi2010

I feel as though all out wars are necessary every now and then so as to assist in "resetting" the Earth's population, or some form of mass event to occur which causes a large loss of life so that the Earth does not become overrun with people.... Whle the death tolls may raise, it is worth noting that the China Earthquake may simply be the result of having too many people in one country at the same time, having this many people go away they should be good a a few years on population regrowth.... Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff, its not entirely unsimilar to us, we need more room to put people, so we start wars over land to put them in.

And the Earth is already a self corecting mechanism that will correct verious imbalances given enough time...


Then again, I do have an odd point of view on things....

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MKR

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

I feel as though all out wars are necessary every now and then so as to assist in "resetting" the Earth's population, or some form of mass event to occur which causes a large loss of life so that the Earth does not become overrun with people.... Whle the death tolls may raise, it is worth noting that the China Earthquake may simply be the result of having too many people in one country at the same time, having this many people go away they should be good a a few years on population regrowth.... Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff, its not entirely unsimilar to us, we need more room to put people, so we start wars over land to put them in.

And the Earth is already a self corecting mechanism that will correct verious imbalances given enough time...


Then again, I do have an odd point of view on things....

That's not how plate tectonics work.

Nakatomi2010

MKR wrote: »

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

I feel as though all out wars are necessary every now and then so as to assist in "resetting" the Earth's population, or some form of mass event to occur which causes a large loss of life so that the Earth does not become overrun with people.... Whle the death tolls may raise, it is worth noting that the China Earthquake may simply be the result of having too many people in one country at the same time, having this many people go away they should be good a a few years on population regrowth.... Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff, its not entirely unsimilar to us, we need more room to put people, so we start wars over land to put them in.

And the Earth is already a self corecting mechanism that will correct verious imbalances given enough time...


Then again, I do have an odd point of view on things....

That's not how plate tectonics work.

I know it's not how plate tectonics works, I'm familiar with the concept of the plates moving over a magma type surface occasionally colliding with one another, and some time slipping over top causing a mountain chain, I was just saying...

MKR

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

MKR wrote: »

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

I feel as though all out wars are necessary every now and then so as to assist in "resetting" the Earth's population, or some form of mass event to occur which causes a large loss of life so that the Earth does not become overrun with people.... Whle the death tolls may raise, it is worth noting that the China Earthquake may simply be the result of having too many people in one country at the same time, having this many people go away they should be good a a few years on population regrowth.... Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff, its not entirely unsimilar to us, we need more room to put people, so we start wars over land to put them in.

And the Earth is already a self corecting mechanism that will correct verious imbalances given enough time...


Then again, I do have an odd point of view on things....

That's not how plate tectonics work.

I know it's not how plate tectonics works, I'm familiar with the concept of the plates moving over a magma type surface occasionally colliding with one another, and some time slipping over top causing a mountain chain, I was just saying...

Just wanted to be sure. It seemed like you were suggesting that the prescence of people was enough to shift the plates.

LondonBridge

Yeesh DarkCrawler, such a pessimist. What about the good things??

XBOX & XBOX360
Faster downloadable porn
Lost
iPod
Battlestar Galactica
iPhone
Bush voted in twice
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
Saddam removed from power
Shia LaBeouf

GungHo

The Cat wrote: »

People keep having 5th/10th-15th anniversaries of things, and I'm all "...didn't that happen last week?"

It's called "getting old."

Nakatomi2010

MKR wrote: »

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

MKR wrote: »

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

I feel as though all out wars are necessary every now and then so as to assist in "resetting" the Earth's population, or some form of mass event to occur which causes a large loss of life so that the Earth does not become overrun with people.... Whle the death tolls may raise, it is worth noting that the China Earthquake may simply be the result of having too many people in one country at the same time, having this many people go away they should be good a a few years on population regrowth.... Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff, its not entirely unsimilar to us, we need more room to put people, so we start wars over land to put them in.

And the Earth is already a self corecting mechanism that will correct verious imbalances given enough time...


Then again, I do have an odd point of view on things....

That's not how plate tectonics work.

I know it's not how plate tectonics works, I'm familiar with the concept of the plates moving over a magma type surface occasionally colliding with one another, and some time slipping over top causing a mountain chain, I was just saying...

Just wanted to be sure. It seemed like you were suggesting that the prescence of people was enough to shift the plates.

Sorry, it was a poorly formed poke at the ongoing joke of how many asians there are over there, similar to the old joke of "You know if you lined up all the Chinese into a straight line it would never end due to the rate of re-population", not to mention that either China or Japan have rules about reproduction, something like only one or two boys per fmaily or something, and no more than 3 kids.... I forget....

Just a poorly phrased joke I suppose....

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nexuscrawler

Seriously not fucking funny

Nakatomi2010

I have an odd reaction to tradgedy in that I attempt to make humor towards it.... I'm going to reiterate that I still believe it to be a part of the Earth resetting itself.....

Qingu

Whenever I get depressed or frustrated, about life or whatever, I step back and think about how right now (at least in the West) is probably the most amazing and exciting time to be alive in the history of humanity. More shit is happening at a faster pace than ever before, and overall the world seems to be turning rapidly into a better and more enlightened place.

If people living 200 or even 100 years ago were somehow transported to 2008, they would think we were a culture of sorcerers. We have magic powers!

Mr Pink

LondonBridge wrote: »

Yeesh DarkCrawler, such a pessimist. What about the good things??

XBOX & XBOX360
Faster downloadable porn
Lost
iPod
Battlestar Galactica
iPhone
Bush voted in twice
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
Saddam removed from power
Shia LaBeouf

...what?

A lot does seem to have happened, though. It seems like if this pace keeps up, we'll have a huge noteworthy event twice a year. The history books in the year 2030 are going to be clogged.

Deadfall

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff,

I know this doesn't add much to the discourse, but wasn't that just a stunt by Disney?

Greeper

Deadfall wrote: »

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff,

I know this doesn't add much to the discourse, but wasn't that just a stunt by Disney?

Yeah lemmings don't actually do that.

WMain00

I blame that event theorem that says time is speeding up faster and faster until it all ends in 2012 with a zero event signature.


Or something...it was an odd theory on 2012 anyway.

Tofystedeth

Nakatomi2010 wrote: »

I feel as though all out wars are necessary every now and then so as to assist in "resetting" the Earth's population, or some form of mass event to occur which causes a large loss of life so that the Earth does not become overrun with people.... Whle the death tolls may raise, it is worth noting that the China Earthquake may simply be the result of having too many people in one country at the same time, having this many people go away they should be good a a few years on population regrowth.... Look at lemmings, their population hits a point they start throwing themselves off a cliff, its not entirely unsimilar to us, we need more room to put people, so we start wars over land to put them in.

And the Earth is already a self corecting mechanism that will correct verious imbalances given enough time...


Then again, I do have an odd point of view on things....

Not going to have any significant impact on the population. It'd take something incredibly calamitous to drop the human population enough that significantly changes the magnitude of our environmental foorprint.

Qingu

Tofystedeth wrote: »

Not going to have any significant impact on the population. It'd take something incredibly calamitous to drop the human population enough that significantly changes the magnitude of our environmental foorprint.

Or, you know, Western ideas about birth control and family planning spreading. In most Western societies the birth rate is about even with the death rate. These also happen to be the most peaceful* and prosperous societies.

*With the exception of America.

Tofystedeth

Qingu wrote: »

Tofystedeth wrote: »

Not going to have any significant impact on the population. It'd take something incredibly calamitous to drop the human population enough that significantly changes the magnitude of our environmental foorprint.

Or, you know, Western ideas about birth control and family planning spreading. In most Western societies the birth rate is about even with the death rate. These also happen to be the most peaceful* and prosperous societies.

*With the exception of America.

I was talking about disasters/wars in response to his post. Besides, even if the birth rate drops, we still have an asston of people, and we live longer and longer. Though I suppose the boomers should all die off here soon...

StuffGuy

I get the feeling that people who lived during other time periods felt that their times were pretty crazy too. Globalization might just mean more people are aware of more stuff on a larger scale.

Plutonium

LondonBridge wrote: »

Yeesh DarkCrawler, such a pessimist. What about the good things??

XBOX & XBOX360
Faster downloadable porn
Lost
iPod
Battlestar Galactica
iPhone
Bush voted in twice
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
Saddam removed from power
Shia LaBeouf

Can you guess which one of these things is not like the others?

MKR

Plutonium wrote: »

LondonBridge wrote: »

Yeesh DarkCrawler, such a pessimist. What about the good things??

XBOX & XBOX360
Faster downloadable porn
Lost
iPod
Battlestar Galactica
iPhone
Bush voted in twice
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
Saddam removed from power
Shia LaBeouf

Can you guess which one of these things is not like the others?

Well the iPod was just an incremental improvement over other, cheaper players.

This is a joke.

Plutonium

Well, Shia LaBeouf always has grated on me and smacks of being a huge tool.

Though that's mostly because I really hated I, Robot, which was a waste of filmstock and CG.

I was talking about George W. Bush

DasUberEdward

DarkCrawler wrote: »

It has only lasted for 8 years or so, and we have already had...

9/11 and the fallout from it, War on Terrorism
The War in Afganistan
The War in Iraq, 1 million dead already
Independence of Kosovo
2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, 310,000 dead
Katrina
Myanmar cyclone + China earthquakes, death toll may reach 150,000
God knows how many assassinations and such around the globe. Important people dying.

Are you ever worried about what has happened by the time you are fifty or something? Because I just came to that realization. It's kind of scary.

Just more of the same shit that has been happening since the inception of the Earth. No big deal really.

Loren Michael

electricitylikesme wrote: »

It hasn't quite hit me yet just how many people have died between Myanmar and China. I mean 71,000 dead or missing with a pretty heavy lean on "dead" I'm betting - that's a shitload. Thats like...I don't know what to think about that. I guess I can't - it's just too far away.

Estimations that I have heard are that there's at least 50,000 dead in China because of the earthquake.

That's more than three of my hometowns.

Medopine

Plutonium wrote: »

Well, Shia LaBeouf always has grated on me and smacks of being a huge tool.

Though that's mostly because I really hated I, Robot, which was a waste of filmstock and CG.

Please to not be judging Shia by that abortion of a retarded film

nexuscrawler

What about Transformers then?

oh yeah.....

Ritchmeister

Plutonium wrote: »

Well, Shia LaBeouf always has grated on me and smacks of being a huge tool.

Though that's mostly because I really hated I, Robot, which was a waste of filmstock and CG.

I can't believe I'm reading that as I sit here in my brand new Converse trainers and type on my Logitech G15 keyboard.

Aaaah Pepsi.

Plutonium

Vintage 2005

LondonBridge

Plutonium wrote: »

LondonBridge wrote: »

Yeesh DarkCrawler, such a pessimist. What about the good things??

XBOX & XBOX360
Faster downloadable porn
Lost
iPod
Battlestar Galactica
iPhone
Bush voted in twice
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
Saddam removed from power
Shia LaBeouf

Can you guess which one of these things is not like the others?

Yeah... So I like Shia LeBeouf. So sue me

GungHo

Loren Michael wrote: »

Estimations that I have heard are that there's at least 50,000 dead in China because of the earthquake.

That's more than three of my hometowns.

For real. I actually explained that to my niece regarding the cyclone in Myanmar. She said it's strange that 100,000 people could have died in that, and didn't really understand how many people that actually would be. I said, "baby-girl, that's everyone in [hometown], and then [town next to home town] and [couple of more towns]. Everybody." She just stared at me and said that it was really sad.

Then she changed the channel to fucking Sponge Bob.

DasUberEdward

Sponge Bob is a quality show.

MKR

DasUberEdward wrote: »

Sponge Bob is a quality show.

And topical!

Fallingman

Its the last 100-200 years that freak me out, when you put things on a longer timeline.

Specifically, the population levels they mention on the 1st episode of the BBC's Planet Earth. The CRAZY boom we had as medicine/technology levels hit a certain level. That shit cant be sustainable - wars or no.

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EmperorSeth

DasUberEdward wrote: »

Sponge Bob is a quality show.

Well, WAS. I can't tolerate any episode made after the creator left.

I'm more intrigued about what could happen in the next 92 or so years. Will we see the mainsteam implementation of cybernetics? The rise of genetic engineering and its social aspects? Hell, we could see phase one of the Singubloodylarity in our lifetimes. Or, for that matter, we could see the 22nd century in our lifetimes.

Regarding the disasters of the last few weeks, I agree that they're horrible, but keep in mind that, given our 6 billion population and an average lifespan of, say, 50-60 years, we also have a death rate of about 300,000 people a day. The numbers get sobering and hard to conceive at this point, not that it makes deaths this sudden and violent any less tragic.

EmperorSeth

Fallingman wrote: »

Its the last 100-200 years that freak me out, when you put things on a longer timeline.

Specifically, the population levels they mention on the 1st episode of the BBC's Planet Earth. The CRAZY boom we had as medicine/technology levels hit a certain level. That shit cant be sustainable - wars or no.

Why not? Especially as medicine and technology have only improved since then.