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So I just got a DS and a copy of The World Ends With You, fantastic game. Anyhoo, I was wondering what other games out there are worth buying, I'm into rpgs, platforming and strategy games.
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So, I keep a running text file with recommendations for each console. I dunno if my last post (of my NDS list) has been updated, so I'll post the most recent iteration right now:
New Super Mario Bros -- One of the best Mario games since the NES days, it's a game that stays true to classic 2D marios but incorporates a lot of modern platforming gameplay elements.
Mario Kart DS -- Fantastic kart racing/combat game. Several new circuits and also has a lot of "classic tracks" to race on; which are tracks from the previous SNES, GBA, and N64 games. Great multiplayer, lots of fun, and you can play it against people on the internet as well. Very accessible and addicting racing game.
Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword - this is Team Ninja's first game for the Nintendo DS. This is a brilliant and beautiful action game on the system that takes wonderful advantage of every aspect of the system. The game is held sideways like a book, which is very comfortable. The gameplay is action-oriented like the console Ninja Gaidens, and as Ryu Hayabusa, you perform all sorts of sword-based ninja attacks and combos, combined with stylistic special moves, acrobatic jumping maneuvers, and throwing shiruken. On top of that, you can progressively unlock new maneuvers to add to the combat, as well as a whole lot of varied and fun Ninja Magic spells, most of which you control the effects and direction of with the stylus. The controls are fantastic and work extremely well with the stylus. The graphics and music are beautiful and run smoothly. This is one of the best pure action games on the Nintendo DS.
The World Ends With You - This is one of the best and most unique RPGs that Square-Enix has released in recent years. This is an RPG with a unique, modern setting and storyline with deep and interesting characters. The game has incredible style, and a very deep combat mechanic that puts the dual-nature and touchscreen functions of the DS to full and fun use. The World Ends With You is a compelling and immaculately presented RPG from start to finish, and is a great way for Square Enix to kick off a new franchise.
Contra 4 - a true testament to classic 16-bit Contra gameplay, this game takes inspiration from every excellent 2D Contra game preceding it, and combines it all into one single awesome action game. It's tough as nails but extremely fair. Plus it includes tons of challenges that unlocks tons of bonus content - it also allows you to unlock the original Contra for the NES, and the sequel Super Contra for the NES, too. So it's 3 good games in one, with tons of content and excellent action shooter gameplay.
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - a new game in the Windwaker series of Zelda games, this is the best action-adventure/RPG game on the Nintendo DS. Not only does it have incredible graphics, but it fully utilizes the touch and dual screen abiliities of the DS for movement and special items and steering the ship and other various maneuvers. It's a great and expansive game, get it if you like Zelda-style gameplay.
Planet Puzzle League - this is considered one of the better puzzle games on the Nintendo DS. It's based on an addicting system of blocks rising from the bottom of the screen, and by using the stylus, you maneuver different blocks to match, which subsequently disappear causing the blocks above to fall down onto them. The gameplay revovles around setting up the stack of blocks so that when you match a pair, it causes a chain reaction of falling blocks onto similar-colored blocks. The game has several good modes and difficulties and can also be played online or against friends from a single cart.
Professor Layton and the Curious Village - Professor Layton is an old-fashioned point-and-click adventure which requires your use of skills such as reasoning, knowledge and creativity to solve various puzzles. Except it's not a stupid or cheap game like the old DOS point and click adventures. It has very fun and rewarding puzzles to complete, that a smart person can achieve through critical thinking.
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow -- Awesome Castlevania game in the vein of Symphony of the Night. You explore an enormous castle, destroying enemies as you level up and become more powerful. You search for and gain new abilities to access new parts of the castle to explore. You ultimately are trying to power up enough to find and defeat Dracula. Has like 3 or 4 endings depending on what you do.
Castlevania Portrait of Ruin -- Similar to Dawn of Sorrow, except with a heavier emphasis on action/combat. This time you have 2 characters, one to specialize in Magic and one in Melee type of attacks, and you have combo-team attacks, so lots of depth there. Otherwise, similar and awesome gameplay. There's multiplayer boss rush mode and can also be played online.
Trauma Center: Under the Knife -- this is a game in which you play as a rookie doctor who ultimately becomes amazing at surgery and must help cure a new virus created by a bioterrorist group. You use the stylus as a scalpel and other such medical tools. The game starts out easy, but gets tough quick. Each surgery requires figuring out a cool little trick of sorts in order to perfform well. Listening to your Nurse helps a lot. It's a fun game, but the difficulty can turn some people off.
Geometry Wars Galaxies - THE best space-shoot'em-up on the DS, this game takes the already extremely good and popular gameplay of Geometry Wars Retro Evolved and expands it exponentially by providing 60 unique levels, new enemies, and a system of 'Droids' that help you out that you can level up and teach new helper behaviours. This game also includes a 2 player cooperative or versus mode, and it also allows for online leaderboards. To top off this incredible package, you can also unlock the original GeoMetry Wars Retro Evolved in its entirety.
Kirby Canvas Curse -- Awesome Nintendo platformer in which you guide Kirby with the stylus by drawing pathways on which he travels. Extremely innovative and very addicting, great use of the touchscreen feature.
Advance Wars Dual Strike -- This is an awesome strategy game in which you command a fleet of different fighters in your army against your opponents. There's a lot of depth and strategy involved, but it's not a typical RTS. It's a good long game, with lots of depth and replay value, and it uses the touch screen well. It can also be played in long or short sittings. Great game if you can find it and want a long game with depth to sink your teeth into.
Advance Wars Days of Ruin -- This is a sequel to the excellent turn based strategy game, Dual Strike. Get this game if you want but cannot find Dual Strike - it has just as great and addicting strategy gameplay but a unique story and some online multiplayer options.
Meteos -- This is a really, really cool puzzle game, and arguably the best puzzle game ever. You use the stylus to line up certain blocks and send them shooting up the screen to destroy falling objects/enemies. The game has absolutely stellar presentation in its graphics and audio, and the game can get pretty deep in gameplay and very exciting and extremely addicting. Lots of replay value. Don't get the Disney Version, get the original "Meteos."
Tetris DS -- this is another really good puzzle game for the DS. It takes Tetris and creates 6 different games based on the Tetris Theme, and gives the overall game a classic NES theme to its graphics and audio, which is awesome. You have Classic Tetris, which you can play for limited or unlimited play time to max your score, or you can play against the CPU or another player (up to 10 from a single cart!) in multiplayer. You can even do a 'Battle Mode" in multiplayer which allows you to use crazy items like banana peels or turtle shells which have different effects on your opponents. There's also a cool mode called Push, in which you and an opponent each play Tetris, but you use the same playfield on opposing sides. Each person tries to push the lump of blocks against the opponent's bottom line by lining up and clearing lines. There's other cool puzzle modes that use the stylus well. This awesome game can also be played on the internet.
Elite Beat Agents -- this is a kickass music/rhythm game.. It has a lot of different crazy songs of all types, and the gameplay is based on tapping appearing/vanishing circles on the screen to the beat of the music. All the while you have hilarious comic-book-like animated panels telling the stories of the various characters in the game, and the Elite Beat Agents jamming out to the song - it's zany but very endearing. The gameplay can get really intense, fun, and addicting like most excellent music/rhythm games. It can also get pretty hard for casual music game fans, so hopefullyl you have some rhythm.
Phoenix Wright Series, also the Apollo Justice Games - These are excellent adventure games in the style of traditional 'point and click' adventure games. These games focus on the adventures of Phoenix Wright or Apollo Justice, attorneys at law, as they uncover the mysteries of their client's cases. Action centers around deducing mysteries from talking to characters and snooping around and finding evidence, and the action takes place in-court where you examine/cross examine witnesses and prove your case by proving or disproving witnesses and using evidence. Great style, great writing, great humor.
Clubhouse Games -- 42 games in one cart! This has TONS of card games and board games to play that everyone can enjoy. Can be played online. Great multiplayer that anyone can enjoy, and plenty of good pick up and play games. Lets you have multiplayer on multiple DSs from a single cart.
Bleach DS: Blade of Fate - this is a 2D fighting game that is designed in the style of Guilty Gear, except that it supports between 2 and 4 players against each other. The game is very combo-centric yet uses a very unique control scheme; to top it off, the touchscreen allows for easy special move execution. The game has arcade and story modes as well as challenge modes, so there's tons to do. Lots of characters with plenty of variety of styles. Can also be played online.
Picross DS - this is a classic puzzle game for the DS, except it is unique in that it's not like traditional puzzlers like Tetris. You're given a slate of tiles onto which you are to chisel out an image, but you're only given clues as to what tiles to chisel out. It combines a sort of reasoning and an ability to figure out what blocks to chisel based on clues and other blocks; kind of like the sort of logic that Sudoku requires. This game is cheap, shouldn't be more than $15 either. Lots of cool Nintendo references in it too.
Call of Duty 4 - this is the 2nd best First Person Shooter on the DS. It takes the excellent controls of Metroid Prime Hunters, but provides a very unique and fun single player campaign to complete. It emphasizes accurate shots and staying behind cover to take out enemies, and you have various weapons and grenades at your disposal. There are also cool levels that take place from a bombing aircraft, from the back of a truck, and from behind the machine gun of a helicopter. Great single player FPS if you enjoy those on the Nintendo DS. Also has an up to 4 player multiplayer mode.
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time -- a very well polished action-ish RPG game. Similar in spirit to Super Mario RPG. It's a cool, lighthearted story but it packs a lot of good and unique gameplay and interesting battle mechanics that use both screens and you have a 4-way partner system which opens the way for cool battle tactics and puzzles. Great game and interesting take on the RPG formula.
Metroid Prime Hunters -- This is a love/hate game. Imagine Quake III with a Metroid theme. It uses the stylus like a mouse, so you have precise shots and such, but it's really best when played multiplayer, which can be done online. Probably try this before buying it.
Brain Age -- Great little game that gives you lots of little 'minigames' that exercise your mind and tracks your progress. Cool and fun and good for short spurts of gameplay. Comes with an EXCELLENT version of Sudoku to play. Tracks progress of multiple players and compares them. Plus it's super cheap.
Sonic Rush -- this is a an excellent evolution of classic 2D Sonic the Hedgehog gameplay. If you ever enjoyed, or even think you'll enjoy, the original Sonic games, you'll probably love this one too. it adds some depth to the speedy platforming with a trick system and a Rush system in which you can blaze through enemies at the speed of light.
Sonic Rush Adventure - The sequel to Sonic Rush, this game retains most of the good 2D Sonic Rush gameplay but also includes a touch-screen style ship-steering 3D gameplay periodically between levels, unlocking new areas of the game, so it keeps things fresh and interesting.
Megaman ZX -- One of the best recent 2D Megaman games. Pretty darn tough game, but very fair in its difficulty. Like Metroid or Castlevania, you travel an open world exploring for bosses. Once defeating a boss, you gain their abilities. This game lets you level up your abilities for more options and attack power. Also lets you choose between 2 available playable characters. Highly recommended if you like tough action games.
Megaman ZX Advent - sequel to the first ZX game, this continues the tradition of tough but exciting 2D action/platforming of the Megaman ZX series. This game gives you the ability to not only absorb new attack powers, but also the ability to transform into boss characters to unleash new attacks and abilities. Also utilizes the touch screen for a map and some special features related to certain enemy abilities.
Final Fantasy III - remake of the very good Square RPG Final Fantasy III, this is the only original Final Fantasy that was never localized in the USA until now. Most famous for introducing the Job System of the series. This game got a major 3D graphical and audio overhaul, and it looks and plays gorgeously on the DS. Get if you want a very traditional RPG to play.
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings: Revenant Wings offers some fresh gameplay for the mammoth RPG series and its dominant RTS element has been simplified to offer a good 20 entertaining hours or so. Witty story, great characters and a bite-size battle system that's ideal for DS. Fantastic rpg with impressive production value.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates - A great Diablo-esque dungeon crawler action-RPG; it's balanced and has just the right loot curve, which offer not too many loot drops but good enough stuff to keep the difficulty proper. Game balance is great, the game looks beautiful, and there's even some really fun writing hidden beneath the youth/casual storyline. This is hack-n-slash done right on the DS. Even better in multiplayer if you can find someone else with the game.
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords -- this is a combination of an RPG and a puzzle game. It plays like Bejeweled, except there's a story and you have RPG levels and items, so there's a lot of depth and strategy involved. Great game if you can find it.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime -- very goofy and lighthearted but addicting RPG, whose gameplay is similar to Zelda. Good fun and a good action-rpg if you're in the market for one.
Yoshi's Island DS -- this may at first seem like a kids' game, but it's quite a good platformer and thoroughly enjoyable if you liked New Super Mario Bros. It's a good and long game with lots of levels. Interesting platforming mechanics and bosses. (disclaimer: this is a great game and platformer, but don't expect it to be nearly as good as the original Yoshi's Island, which is arguably the best 2D platformer ever; the two games are not much alike. If you're expecting this to be like the SNES original, you'll be disappointed).
Metroid Prime Pinball -- If you like Pinball videogames, this is the one to get. Kickass Metroid theme in graphics, music, style, and objectives. Real inexpensive too.
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence -- a port of the PS1 classic Resident Evil in all of its original glory -- plus it has some additional touchscreen elements and extra mode to play. Get it if survival horror sounds good to you, or if you enjoyed the original Resident Evil.
Konami Classics Series: Arcade Hits - this is a game that includes arcade perfect ports of tons of classic Konami games. These arcade games are all very well done and have tons of options, and they're all very well geared towards handheld pick-up-and-play gameplay. The game has 15 games, but the best of them are Contra, Gradius, Rush'n'Attack, Time Pilot, Twinbee, Track & Field, and Yie Ar Kung Fu. Tons of options to tweak each game's appearance and controls.
Worms Open Warfare 2 - arguably the best iteration of "Worms" warfare, action-strategy gameplay. It's straightforward "retro" 2D artillery-heavy action and it can be extremely hard to put down once you get started. Open Warfare 2 doesn't break new ground for the series, but builds upon and refines the series' trademark gameplay and adds another layer of weapons, modes, and some customization. The game also supports online multiplayer over the Nintendo Wifi. This is a great pick up and play game and is pretty ideal for a portable game.
Lunar Knights -- an action RPG designed by the guy behind Metal Gear Solid (Hideo Kojima). It blends action, stealth, and action-rpg elements nicely and has a cool 2-screen gameplay mechanic involving the day/night to power your attacks. Cool action-rpg game.
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - The newest edition in the Pokemon gameplay, this game expands and refines the series' gameplay elements while staying true to the series formula. Between exploring the massive towns, wandering through the multi-tiered wastelands, and challenging legions of trainers, you'll enjoy a lengthy adventure that most other DS game cannot deliver. The game features more creatures, moves, depth of strategy, and personalization than the series has traditionally offered, lending to a complete and rewarding experience. Great wifi online options, too.
Bomberman DS -- classic Bomberman gameplay in single player and multiplayer. Best recommended if you love multiplayer bomberman, as you can play yourself against the CPU or against up to 7 other people from a single-cart multiboot. 8 player across 2 screens is awesome.
Etrian Odyssey - one of the best dungeon-crawling style RPGs on the Nintendo Ds, this is one tough but unique RPG. It's gameplay is difficult but rewarding, and it offers a sense of accomplishment. Instead of a world that conforms to your level and rewards you with HP every time you level up, you have to strategize about which characters will enter the Labyrinth, how best to allot skill points among your characters, who charges the front line and who stays in back, and how much money you have to spend on reviving dead characters. Very difficult learning curve though.
Hotel Dusk - If you're a sucker for a great story and don't mind a slow paced, puzzle filled adventure, Hotel Dusk fits the bill perfectly. The art style is flat-out amazing. The sepia tones and hand-drawn characters perfectly complement the game's mood and 1970's setting. The film noir themes that occur throughout the game are perfect, never over-the-top or cheesy. It's a classic PC-styled adventure with an emphasis on story and realized in a great way on DS hardware.
Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer - In this rogue-like RPG, you'll move in a turn-based manner through randomly generated dungeons that provide a great challenge and lasting replay value. It's more demanding than its fellow DS-based roguelikes, but it's remarkably well crafted, with streamlined gameplay that belies its impressive substance. Combining planning and persistence with the goal of surmounting the tons of randomly generated dungeons amounts to an impressively addicting experience. Just be aware that this game is in the "roguelike" genre; it can be demanding, difficult, and punishing, but also extremely rewarding and addicting if you have the right mindset.
Diddy Kong Racing -- fairly decent Kart racer in the vein of Mario Kart (arcadey/powerups/weapons, whacky levels/characters) but with planes, karts, and hovercrafts. Good if you want another kart racer, but make sure to get Mario Kart DS first. Single player mode is built upon a hub-world structure. Fun in multiplayer; multicart or single cart multiboot with up to 8 players. Supports online multi. Create your own track feature.
Nintendogs -- This is a 'sandbox game' which means that you play it how you want it. Some people enjoy sandbox games, some don't, but Nintendogs is very popular. Imagine it as a virtual pet dog that you can train or play with and do all kinds of things. Uses the microphone, for example, to tell dogs to "Sit" or "roll over" and such, or use the touchscreen to throw balls/frisbees.
Slash (or anyone, I suppose), have you played Geometry Wars Galaxies on the Wii as well? If so, was there any reason to get one version over the other (besides the portability of the DS)?
Slash (or anyone, I suppose), have you played Geometry Wars Galaxies on the Wii as well? If so, was there any reason to get one version over the other (besides the portability of the DS)?
I actually know quite a bit about both versions, and indeed I have the Wii version.
The two games are pretty much the same basic game, with the same concepts, levels, enemies, etc. However, there are some major differences between the games that make a purchase really turn on whether you want a portable version of the game, or a fancier, more polished version of the game.
The Wii version is more technically capable for this type of game. Not only is the viewable area much larger on the TV screen, but there are also a lot of graphical flourishes that did not make it into the DS version. The background grid is constantly warping and folding and waiving, the explosions are big and colorful, and the framerate is rock solid and never ever dips below 60 frames per second or whatever smooth rate it runs at, no matter how much crap is filling the screen. The NDS version has a slightly lesser viewable area around your ship, and it lacks some graphical finesse in details like warping grid background/explosions/etc, little stuff like that, but really when things get extremely hectic it starts to lag in its framerate. But overall the NDS version is still really, really good and extremely well done, and the lacking graphical bits are really not that big of a deal considering it's a portable game.
The next big difference is controls. The Wii version gives you multiple control schemes to use, but there are 2 primary ones that are very viable. One is the Classic Controller - a lot of people who started the series with the Xbox will prefer this, as their skills transfer right over. It's the classic twin-stick shooter setup. The second control method is the wiimote+nunchuck setup. Here you have a "laser sight" on your ship and a little dot on the screen showing you where you are aiming. Movement is controlled by the nunchuck, and you fire by pressing a button on the wii remote. This sounds difficult, and it has kind of a steep learning curve to this control method, but it is actually quite an accurate and efficient method of control for the game once you've spent a good amount of time honing your skills with it - the reason is because it's quicker to turn and make accurate shots with the pointer than it is with a stick, and plus you don't have to shoot until you pull the trigger, which can help with strategies on black holes and those cowardly enemies that evade your fire.
The NDS control scheme works extremely well. You guide movement with the Dpad. Action takes place on the top screen and you have the bottom screen to use as a method for aiming and shooting. It's hard to describe, but you hold your stylus in the direction you want to aim relative to the little ship on the bottom screen (which is in the center). It works really well in practice and is pretty ideal for the game on the NDS.
Both games have online leaderboards, have multiplayer (local), have included Retro Evolved. It's just a question of whether you'd want to have the game portable but lacking some technical finesse, or having a nonportable version that looks and runs incredible on a large screen tv that you control with either the wiimote/chuck or classic con depending on what you have.
You can also send a temporary downloadable full-fledged version of Retro evolved to your NDS from the Wii Version over Download Play. But of course the game disappears when you shut off your system.
I have the Wii version and love it to death; I've gotten the highest Medal on every level, often by a great number of points over the requirement. But as a matter of fact, I love the game so much, I'm looking to buy the NDS version as well, because I think that this is really the ideal portable gameplay, as you can play for short or long periods of time, and it's addicting, and really just a good fit for a portable game. (also having both versions unlocks more levels on both games)
Yoshi's Island DS -- this may at first seem like a kids' game, but it's quite a good platformer and thoroughly enjoyable if you liked New Super Mario Bros. It's a good and long game with lots of levels. Interesting platforming mechanics and bosses.
You should add that if you played (and loved) the original you'll probably find this game to be utter garbage compared to the greatness of the snes game. All the spritework they didn't lift wholesale from the original or Yoshi touch and go is terrible sub-fan game quality as is the garbage level design (which gets worse as it goes along) and boring music (the original had fantastic music)
So if you never played the original you might enjoy the game because you have nothing to compare it to, but anyone who played the original should steer clear of it, as it's just going to disappoint.
Yoshi's Island DS -- this may at first seem like a kids' game, but it's quite a good platformer and thoroughly enjoyable if you liked New Super Mario Bros. It's a good and long game with lots of levels. Interesting platforming mechanics and bosses.
You should add that if you played (and loved) the original you'll probably find this game to be utter garbage compared to the greatness of the snes game. All the spritework they didn't lift wholesale from the original or Yoshi touch and go is terrible sub-fan game quality as is the garbage level design (which gets worse as it goes along) and boring music (the original had fantastic music)
So if you never played the original you might enjoy the game because you have nothing to compare it to, but anyone who played the original should steer clear of it, as it's just going to disappoint.
Good point. The fact is, Yoshi's Island DS is a good game. It's just not as good as the first, which is arguably the best 2D platformer ever made. Still, YI-DS is a good game worth owning if someone wants another good Nintendo platformer after NSMB or whatever..
Hmm, your description of Mega Man ZX has made me put it on my Goozex requests, Slash. 200 points, not bad.
It's a fantastic game, and it has some 'searching' elements involved that can be somewhat described as akin to Metroid, but it is much, much closer to a Megaman X or Megaman Zero game than Metroid or Castlevania. Still, the game design is pretty fresh for a Megaman game and it's definitely one of the best since the classic PS1 or SNES games. It's a pretty tough game too, but very rewarding.
Also, "remake of the classic and beloved FFIII". Beloved? Since when?
I dunno. I thought a lot of people loved FF3? I must admit I'm not a big RPG person. (I do realize though that this is the 'real' FFIII, not FFIII-aka-FFVI-in-the-US.)
I'll alter the desc a little bit. Still a good JRPG though.
Heh, it's no big deal. It's just that FF3 never actually came out in NA and most people who did play the original seemed not to like it very much besides its introduction of the job system.
Heh, it's no big deal. It's just that FF3 never actually came out in NA and most people who did play the original seemed not to like it very much besides its introduction of the job system.
Good points. I'll alter the description a little more.
This whole list thing that I keep was started, originally, by me copying and pasting people's recommendations and comments about various games at various times, and whenever Suggestion Threads popped up. At a certain point I figured it would become more convenient to just make a more comprehensive list that could be added/altered to and posted when these threads arise.
So it's actually pretty good to keep getting feedback on what people recommend and what sorts of little disclaimers that may need to be added to various games in recommending them.
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edited May 2008
Well this seems about the best place to ask...
Has anyone played that New Zealand Story Revolution on the DS? I had never even seen it before today. I used to love Kiwi Kraze(New Zealand Story outside of the US) back on the NES when I was little, and I was curious how this one stood up to it. It looks like a remake, which would be cool
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This thread just made me order Geometry Wars, Diddy Kong Racing, and Advance Wars Blah Blah Ruin for $17 each. At the moment I am angry (beefin') with (wit') slash for making me spend money, but when the package arrives the games will hopefully bring me serenity.
Yoshi's Island DS has to be the worst platformer that Nintendo ever created, and one of if not the worst sequel of all time.
New Super Mario Bros is fantastic though. Both Kirby platformers for the DS are also very enjoyable (and pretty) if you're looking for a platforming fix.
As for strategy, Advance Wars Dual Strike is still king.
Yoshi's Island DS has to be the worst platformer that Nintendo ever created, and one of if not the worst sequel of all time.
I submit that it is you who is the worst platformer that Nintendo ever created, and the worst sequel ever created.
What say you to that?
As for strategy, Advance Wars Dual Strike is still king.
This, however, I agree with. If you can get around the fact that the game has terrible balance. Just don't abuse Dual Strikes, or else any semblance of challenge vanishes.
I pictured an overcast night sky with a spotlight shining against the clouds, only instead of a bat the signal was a crumpled up, faded receipt for a Duke Nukem Forever preorder receipt.
So I just got a DS and a copy of The World Ends With You, fantastic game. Anyhoo, I was wondering what other games out there are worth buying, I'm into rpgs, platforming and strategy games.
Slash's post is comprehensive and I agree with about 90 percent of it. To narrow down, here are my suggestions:
Etrian Odyssey: Old-school first-person dungeon crawling, like Wizardry or A Bard's Tale. The mapping on the touchscreen makes it a lot more accessible IMO, which is why I love it whereas I hated most other dungeon-crawlers of this ilk. Puzzle Quest: It's an RPG mashed up with Bejeweled and Magic the Gathering, and it's strangely compelling. Every action (fighting, crafting, researching spells) is a permutation of Bejeweled, and as you match jewels they become the mana for you to cast spells and use abilities. Phoenix Wright/Apollo Justice series: Sort of point-and-click adventures that don't sound like they should be fun on paper, but they're excellent. You play a lawyer/detective who has to investigate areas and talk to witnesses to find evidence, then you go to court and cut through the bullshit in lying witnesses' testimonies to reveal the truth. Upcoming: DQIV through VI, FFIV: These aren't here quite yet, but remakes of legendary classics FFIV and DQIV are coming this summer/fall and they will shake the earth with their awesomeness. New Super Mario Bros.: Nuff said. Tetris DS: An excellent updated rendition of Tetris paired with NES-era nostalgia and a slew of new modes. Meteos: The most frantic block-dropping puzzler you'll ever play. It's a lot like Tetris mashed with Smash Bros., if that makes any sense.
The two games that I have yet to play that have pretty awesome reviews that my sweet stimulous package is going to get me: Ninja Gaiden and the World Ends With You.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates is a pretty good dungeon crawler.
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There is a disturbing lack of mention for Dragon Quest Monsters : Joker.
If you are a DQ fan, this game owns. You can easily sink 100 hours in the game, it is so damn good. What makes it so awesome? We all have favorite DQ monsters and love their personalities, now you can finally play as them!! There are many fan services in the game. You can also breed many of the best bosses in DQ history and actually use them in battle, how cool is that. The skill system and art style from DQ8 also make a comeback. Overall the game is not a mere diversion, it is a game so good it could be released for the PS2.
Yoshi's Island DS has to be the worst platformer that Nintendo ever created, and one of if not the worst sequel of all time.
boo. The game isn't bad, it just doesn't live up to its previous iteration. I'd rather play it than Super Princess Peach, personally.
There seem to be 2 groups... one group is rather large, and feels that YI-DS is a decently good platformer. Then there's a group of very, very outspoken fans of the first Yoshi's Island that seem to hate YI-DS with a passion.
MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited May 2008
I only don't want to play yoshi island 2 much because I played it non stop when I first got the ds for a couple of months because I had nothing else to do at the time I bought it and no money to buy more.
I burnt myself so hard and the game got so unforgiving it just smashed my will to continue.
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I just got Glory Days 2 from Goozex and it's amazing, especially for a game I'd never noticed when it launched. Side-scrolling real-time war strategy on the DS makes for sex, brutal sex. I'm contemplating making a thread for it.
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Any quality hack'n'slash RPGS? I noticed one came out recently, but I can't remember the name.
Dungeon Explorers perhaps?
Lunar Knights is mostly a dungeon hack. You control two characters, one at a time. Each with their own weapons, fighting style, exp, strengths and weaknesses, etc. The gameplay can range from easy as hell to oh god I'm running away now, depending on your characters' levels and skill allocation. There is a fair bit of story, but it's easily skipped. I'd recommend skipping it, as it's generally trash and the voice acting is terrible. There's also a shmup-esque mini game that's pretty fun, and you can just play it from the main menu if you want.
But the hacking/slashing/shooting and character building is a good time.
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"Though Glory Days 2's amalgam of wartime drama, RTS elements and Choplifter/Defender-influenced side-scrolling gameplay is somewhat bizarre, it's also one of the more uniquely addictive games on the DS, and absolutely worth tracking down for fans of action-packed portability...Though it doesn't need a particularly impressive presentation for the formula to work, Glory Days 2 surprises with silky-smooth, colorful visuals reminiscent of a shrunken, high-speed Metal Slug. The soundtrack is also absolutely epic, with booming war marches that compliment the destructive weapon effects perfectly -- get the headphones out. For what it is, it's really a complete package, and quite obviously a labor of love accomplished by a small team with very big ideas. If you've an interest in strategy games and want something a bit different, you owe it to yourself to hunt this game down."
Essentially, you fly helicopters around to pick up civilians and transport troops, planes to drop bombs and combat their airforce, and deploy units to fight on the bottom. Top screen is what you're fighting on, while bottom screen shows how your troops are doing. The overall goal is to push forward, take their bases, and ultimately destroy their units and get their main base.
The touch screen control method is a little complex for me, so I moved to using the pad and face buttons. I'm still getting used to the strategy, but it's a fast and intense game. Apparently there's multi for up to 8 players, which could be pretty crazy. This is a really cool game and I'm surprised I hadn't heard about it til a couple weeks ago. Oh, and I have to echo 1up on the sound - this game sounds absolutely fantastic. It sounds like a film score with headphones on, and the weapons have plenty of oomph.
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I recently bought Brothers in Arms DS as it's $20 new at GameStop. I'm only 3 levels in, and it's heavily scripted, but for a DS game it's very impressive. All kinds of things are going on at one time. Your AI teammates are running together and shooting at Nazis, planes are flying around, flak exploding in the air, etc. Buildings even blow up and crumble, even though it's either scripted or critical for a mission to progress. It's also 3rd person, and your character is decently well-rendered considering how much else is going on in the game all the time.
The sound is comprised of the sounds of battle. Explosions, gunshots, ambient war noise, etc. There's some in-game voice acting too.
It controls pretty easily with a few hiccups. WASD movement with the D-Pad, L-Trigger fires, and you aim with the Touch screen. It's really easy and quick to switch weapons, reload, zoom in, throw grenades accurately, and activate context-sensitive things (turrets and throwing grenades in tanks for example) all with the touch screen. My main gripe with the control is that you can't adjust look sensitivity, so I often have to pick up the stylus to make a 180 degree turn. It also affects my ability to aim at small targets, but that's not a huge deal breaker as the game doesn't rely on quick accuracy. The combat consists of stop and pop shooting similar to Gears of War or Uncharted or GTA IV, etc. If you approach a wall or sandbag, you will stick or crouch and then be able to shoot from partial safety. Positioning is more important than accuracy as far as I can tell.
An example of the game: The end of the first level has you and your squad attempt to take refuge in a church. On the way there, you have to clear out the enemy from the front of the church, which includes taking on a few tanks with a bazooka. As you run inside the double doors, more enemies fire at you, one from behind a MG. A battle ensues with your squad taking cover behind church pews, taking potshots and throwing grenades while trying to dodge grenades and MG fire yourself. You eventually move behind a fallen pillar and waste the remaining enemies. Through the broken stained-glass windows, you see a tank approach. The tank proceeds to bust through the wall into the church and begins firing. You then have to run up to the tank and activate a little icon in order to climb the tank and throw a grenade in the hatch. And this is a DS game.
So based on the 3 levels I've played, BiA is a cool game.
Hey Renzo, I also own Bros. in Arms DS. And I agree, it's a damn good WWII shooter on the NDS. Very impressive in what it presents in terms of what's going on in the game. Fairly large levels with lots going on. Lots of different moves and weapons. It's a pretty well rounded WWII shooter on the DS. Graphically, it's pretty impressive as well. And the controls are fantastic; very much like a KBAM setup, and throwing grenades is pretty cool too, using the touchscreen. The only thing is that the aiming is a little touchy sometimes but otherwise it's completely solid. Most reviews knocked off points for only 2 primary things; game length (maybe 4 hours long?) and no online multiplayer. If you ask me, 4 hours is typical and expected of a portable, $30 (now $20 or less) action game. And I think it's asking quite a lot, actually, for online multiplayer for a third party shooter on a portable; it's very mcuh appreciated when they provide it, but it shouldn't be one of the things that is marked off for in reviews due to a lack thereof. Does have local multi though but I haven't tried it. (edit: also reviews knock it for being 'linear.' as if the vast majority of shooters, particularly of the wwii persuasion, weren't all very linear)
How can Lost Magic not be listed here...
I _so_ wish they'd bring out a number 2... the innovative "rune casting" method of casting spells was awesome!
I don't know what happened to me. I just don't love my DS like I used to. Once I bought a PSP it was all down hill, and I've had a DS since early 2005.
That being said, I absolutely adore both Advance Wars games, and I was really into Trauma Center for a while, although I did find it frustrating at times.
Starting with The World Ends With You, I feel like the DS is catching a second wind for me. I just bought Brothers in Arms DS, and I'll probably buy Glory Days 2 tomorrow. But those are older games, so I guess that doesn't count. Then there's Final Fantasy IV and later CastleVania: Order of Ecclesia. And in like a year Infinite Line will release. Oh yeah and I'll probably buy Pokemon Platinum when it releases.
Yeah, I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't have a single Nintendo game for his DS.
edit: And it doesn't hurt that I recently bought a new DS Lite. It's hard to stay away when things look this sexy. I'm sorry I ever doubted you, DS Lite.
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So, I keep a running text file with recommendations for each console. I dunno if my last post (of my NDS list) has been updated, so I'll post the most recent iteration right now:
New Super Mario Bros -- One of the best Mario games since the NES days, it's a game that stays true to classic 2D marios but incorporates a lot of modern platforming gameplay elements.
Mario Kart DS -- Fantastic kart racing/combat game. Several new circuits and also has a lot of "classic tracks" to race on; which are tracks from the previous SNES, GBA, and N64 games. Great multiplayer, lots of fun, and you can play it against people on the internet as well. Very accessible and addicting racing game.
Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword - this is Team Ninja's first game for the Nintendo DS. This is a brilliant and beautiful action game on the system that takes wonderful advantage of every aspect of the system. The game is held sideways like a book, which is very comfortable. The gameplay is action-oriented like the console Ninja Gaidens, and as Ryu Hayabusa, you perform all sorts of sword-based ninja attacks and combos, combined with stylistic special moves, acrobatic jumping maneuvers, and throwing shiruken. On top of that, you can progressively unlock new maneuvers to add to the combat, as well as a whole lot of varied and fun Ninja Magic spells, most of which you control the effects and direction of with the stylus. The controls are fantastic and work extremely well with the stylus. The graphics and music are beautiful and run smoothly. This is one of the best pure action games on the Nintendo DS.
The World Ends With You - This is one of the best and most unique RPGs that Square-Enix has released in recent years. This is an RPG with a unique, modern setting and storyline with deep and interesting characters. The game has incredible style, and a very deep combat mechanic that puts the dual-nature and touchscreen functions of the DS to full and fun use. The World Ends With You is a compelling and immaculately presented RPG from start to finish, and is a great way for Square Enix to kick off a new franchise.
Contra 4 - a true testament to classic 16-bit Contra gameplay, this game takes inspiration from every excellent 2D Contra game preceding it, and combines it all into one single awesome action game. It's tough as nails but extremely fair. Plus it includes tons of challenges that unlocks tons of bonus content - it also allows you to unlock the original Contra for the NES, and the sequel Super Contra for the NES, too. So it's 3 good games in one, with tons of content and excellent action shooter gameplay.
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - a new game in the Windwaker series of Zelda games, this is the best action-adventure/RPG game on the Nintendo DS. Not only does it have incredible graphics, but it fully utilizes the touch and dual screen abiliities of the DS for movement and special items and steering the ship and other various maneuvers. It's a great and expansive game, get it if you like Zelda-style gameplay.
Planet Puzzle League - this is considered one of the better puzzle games on the Nintendo DS. It's based on an addicting system of blocks rising from the bottom of the screen, and by using the stylus, you maneuver different blocks to match, which subsequently disappear causing the blocks above to fall down onto them. The gameplay revovles around setting up the stack of blocks so that when you match a pair, it causes a chain reaction of falling blocks onto similar-colored blocks. The game has several good modes and difficulties and can also be played online or against friends from a single cart.
Professor Layton and the Curious Village - Professor Layton is an old-fashioned point-and-click adventure which requires your use of skills such as reasoning, knowledge and creativity to solve various puzzles. Except it's not a stupid or cheap game like the old DOS point and click adventures. It has very fun and rewarding puzzles to complete, that a smart person can achieve through critical thinking.
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow -- Awesome Castlevania game in the vein of Symphony of the Night. You explore an enormous castle, destroying enemies as you level up and become more powerful. You search for and gain new abilities to access new parts of the castle to explore. You ultimately are trying to power up enough to find and defeat Dracula. Has like 3 or 4 endings depending on what you do.
Castlevania Portrait of Ruin -- Similar to Dawn of Sorrow, except with a heavier emphasis on action/combat. This time you have 2 characters, one to specialize in Magic and one in Melee type of attacks, and you have combo-team attacks, so lots of depth there. Otherwise, similar and awesome gameplay. There's multiplayer boss rush mode and can also be played online.
Trauma Center: Under the Knife -- this is a game in which you play as a rookie doctor who ultimately becomes amazing at surgery and must help cure a new virus created by a bioterrorist group. You use the stylus as a scalpel and other such medical tools. The game starts out easy, but gets tough quick. Each surgery requires figuring out a cool little trick of sorts in order to perfform well. Listening to your Nurse helps a lot. It's a fun game, but the difficulty can turn some people off.
Geometry Wars Galaxies - THE best space-shoot'em-up on the DS, this game takes the already extremely good and popular gameplay of Geometry Wars Retro Evolved and expands it exponentially by providing 60 unique levels, new enemies, and a system of 'Droids' that help you out that you can level up and teach new helper behaviours. This game also includes a 2 player cooperative or versus mode, and it also allows for online leaderboards. To top off this incredible package, you can also unlock the original GeoMetry Wars Retro Evolved in its entirety.
Kirby Canvas Curse -- Awesome Nintendo platformer in which you guide Kirby with the stylus by drawing pathways on which he travels. Extremely innovative and very addicting, great use of the touchscreen feature.
Advance Wars Dual Strike -- This is an awesome strategy game in which you command a fleet of different fighters in your army against your opponents. There's a lot of depth and strategy involved, but it's not a typical RTS. It's a good long game, with lots of depth and replay value, and it uses the touch screen well. It can also be played in long or short sittings. Great game if you can find it and want a long game with depth to sink your teeth into.
Advance Wars Days of Ruin -- This is a sequel to the excellent turn based strategy game, Dual Strike. Get this game if you want but cannot find Dual Strike - it has just as great and addicting strategy gameplay but a unique story and some online multiplayer options.
Meteos -- This is a really, really cool puzzle game, and arguably the best puzzle game ever. You use the stylus to line up certain blocks and send them shooting up the screen to destroy falling objects/enemies. The game has absolutely stellar presentation in its graphics and audio, and the game can get pretty deep in gameplay and very exciting and extremely addicting. Lots of replay value. Don't get the Disney Version, get the original "Meteos."
Tetris DS -- this is another really good puzzle game for the DS. It takes Tetris and creates 6 different games based on the Tetris Theme, and gives the overall game a classic NES theme to its graphics and audio, which is awesome. You have Classic Tetris, which you can play for limited or unlimited play time to max your score, or you can play against the CPU or another player (up to 10 from a single cart!) in multiplayer. You can even do a 'Battle Mode" in multiplayer which allows you to use crazy items like banana peels or turtle shells which have different effects on your opponents. There's also a cool mode called Push, in which you and an opponent each play Tetris, but you use the same playfield on opposing sides. Each person tries to push the lump of blocks against the opponent's bottom line by lining up and clearing lines. There's other cool puzzle modes that use the stylus well. This awesome game can also be played on the internet.
Elite Beat Agents -- this is a kickass music/rhythm game.. It has a lot of different crazy songs of all types, and the gameplay is based on tapping appearing/vanishing circles on the screen to the beat of the music. All the while you have hilarious comic-book-like animated panels telling the stories of the various characters in the game, and the Elite Beat Agents jamming out to the song - it's zany but very endearing. The gameplay can get really intense, fun, and addicting like most excellent music/rhythm games. It can also get pretty hard for casual music game fans, so hopefullyl you have some rhythm.
Phoenix Wright Series, also the Apollo Justice Games - These are excellent adventure games in the style of traditional 'point and click' adventure games. These games focus on the adventures of Phoenix Wright or Apollo Justice, attorneys at law, as they uncover the mysteries of their client's cases. Action centers around deducing mysteries from talking to characters and snooping around and finding evidence, and the action takes place in-court where you examine/cross examine witnesses and prove your case by proving or disproving witnesses and using evidence. Great style, great writing, great humor.
Clubhouse Games -- 42 games in one cart! This has TONS of card games and board games to play that everyone can enjoy. Can be played online. Great multiplayer that anyone can enjoy, and plenty of good pick up and play games. Lets you have multiplayer on multiple DSs from a single cart.
Bleach DS: Blade of Fate - this is a 2D fighting game that is designed in the style of Guilty Gear, except that it supports between 2 and 4 players against each other. The game is very combo-centric yet uses a very unique control scheme; to top it off, the touchscreen allows for easy special move execution. The game has arcade and story modes as well as challenge modes, so there's tons to do. Lots of characters with plenty of variety of styles. Can also be played online.
Picross DS - this is a classic puzzle game for the DS, except it is unique in that it's not like traditional puzzlers like Tetris. You're given a slate of tiles onto which you are to chisel out an image, but you're only given clues as to what tiles to chisel out. It combines a sort of reasoning and an ability to figure out what blocks to chisel based on clues and other blocks; kind of like the sort of logic that Sudoku requires. This game is cheap, shouldn't be more than $15 either. Lots of cool Nintendo references in it too.
Call of Duty 4 - this is the 2nd best First Person Shooter on the DS. It takes the excellent controls of Metroid Prime Hunters, but provides a very unique and fun single player campaign to complete. It emphasizes accurate shots and staying behind cover to take out enemies, and you have various weapons and grenades at your disposal. There are also cool levels that take place from a bombing aircraft, from the back of a truck, and from behind the machine gun of a helicopter. Great single player FPS if you enjoy those on the Nintendo DS. Also has an up to 4 player multiplayer mode.
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time -- a very well polished action-ish RPG game. Similar in spirit to Super Mario RPG. It's a cool, lighthearted story but it packs a lot of good and unique gameplay and interesting battle mechanics that use both screens and you have a 4-way partner system which opens the way for cool battle tactics and puzzles. Great game and interesting take on the RPG formula.
Metroid Prime Hunters -- This is a love/hate game. Imagine Quake III with a Metroid theme. It uses the stylus like a mouse, so you have precise shots and such, but it's really best when played multiplayer, which can be done online. Probably try this before buying it.
Brain Age -- Great little game that gives you lots of little 'minigames' that exercise your mind and tracks your progress. Cool and fun and good for short spurts of gameplay. Comes with an EXCELLENT version of Sudoku to play. Tracks progress of multiple players and compares them. Plus it's super cheap.
Sonic Rush -- this is a an excellent evolution of classic 2D Sonic the Hedgehog gameplay. If you ever enjoyed, or even think you'll enjoy, the original Sonic games, you'll probably love this one too. it adds some depth to the speedy platforming with a trick system and a Rush system in which you can blaze through enemies at the speed of light.
Sonic Rush Adventure - The sequel to Sonic Rush, this game retains most of the good 2D Sonic Rush gameplay but also includes a touch-screen style ship-steering 3D gameplay periodically between levels, unlocking new areas of the game, so it keeps things fresh and interesting.
Megaman ZX -- One of the best recent 2D Megaman games. Pretty darn tough game, but very fair in its difficulty. Like Metroid or Castlevania, you travel an open world exploring for bosses. Once defeating a boss, you gain their abilities. This game lets you level up your abilities for more options and attack power. Also lets you choose between 2 available playable characters. Highly recommended if you like tough action games.
Megaman ZX Advent - sequel to the first ZX game, this continues the tradition of tough but exciting 2D action/platforming of the Megaman ZX series. This game gives you the ability to not only absorb new attack powers, but also the ability to transform into boss characters to unleash new attacks and abilities. Also utilizes the touch screen for a map and some special features related to certain enemy abilities.
Final Fantasy III - remake of the very good Square RPG Final Fantasy III, this is the only original Final Fantasy that was never localized in the USA until now. Most famous for introducing the Job System of the series. This game got a major 3D graphical and audio overhaul, and it looks and plays gorgeously on the DS. Get if you want a very traditional RPG to play.
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings: Revenant Wings offers some fresh gameplay for the mammoth RPG series and its dominant RTS element has been simplified to offer a good 20 entertaining hours or so. Witty story, great characters and a bite-size battle system that's ideal for DS. Fantastic rpg with impressive production value.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates - A great Diablo-esque dungeon crawler action-RPG; it's balanced and has just the right loot curve, which offer not too many loot drops but good enough stuff to keep the difficulty proper. Game balance is great, the game looks beautiful, and there's even some really fun writing hidden beneath the youth/casual storyline. This is hack-n-slash done right on the DS. Even better in multiplayer if you can find someone else with the game.
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords -- this is a combination of an RPG and a puzzle game. It plays like Bejeweled, except there's a story and you have RPG levels and items, so there's a lot of depth and strategy involved. Great game if you can find it.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime -- very goofy and lighthearted but addicting RPG, whose gameplay is similar to Zelda. Good fun and a good action-rpg if you're in the market for one.
Yoshi's Island DS -- this may at first seem like a kids' game, but it's quite a good platformer and thoroughly enjoyable if you liked New Super Mario Bros. It's a good and long game with lots of levels. Interesting platforming mechanics and bosses. (disclaimer: this is a great game and platformer, but don't expect it to be nearly as good as the original Yoshi's Island, which is arguably the best 2D platformer ever; the two games are not much alike. If you're expecting this to be like the SNES original, you'll be disappointed).
Metroid Prime Pinball -- If you like Pinball videogames, this is the one to get. Kickass Metroid theme in graphics, music, style, and objectives. Real inexpensive too.
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence -- a port of the PS1 classic Resident Evil in all of its original glory -- plus it has some additional touchscreen elements and extra mode to play. Get it if survival horror sounds good to you, or if you enjoyed the original Resident Evil.
Konami Classics Series: Arcade Hits - this is a game that includes arcade perfect ports of tons of classic Konami games. These arcade games are all very well done and have tons of options, and they're all very well geared towards handheld pick-up-and-play gameplay. The game has 15 games, but the best of them are Contra, Gradius, Rush'n'Attack, Time Pilot, Twinbee, Track & Field, and Yie Ar Kung Fu. Tons of options to tweak each game's appearance and controls.
Worms Open Warfare 2 - arguably the best iteration of "Worms" warfare, action-strategy gameplay. It's straightforward "retro" 2D artillery-heavy action and it can be extremely hard to put down once you get started. Open Warfare 2 doesn't break new ground for the series, but builds upon and refines the series' trademark gameplay and adds another layer of weapons, modes, and some customization. The game also supports online multiplayer over the Nintendo Wifi. This is a great pick up and play game and is pretty ideal for a portable game.
Lunar Knights -- an action RPG designed by the guy behind Metal Gear Solid (Hideo Kojima). It blends action, stealth, and action-rpg elements nicely and has a cool 2-screen gameplay mechanic involving the day/night to power your attacks. Cool action-rpg game.
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - The newest edition in the Pokemon gameplay, this game expands and refines the series' gameplay elements while staying true to the series formula. Between exploring the massive towns, wandering through the multi-tiered wastelands, and challenging legions of trainers, you'll enjoy a lengthy adventure that most other DS game cannot deliver. The game features more creatures, moves, depth of strategy, and personalization than the series has traditionally offered, lending to a complete and rewarding experience. Great wifi online options, too.
Bomberman DS -- classic Bomberman gameplay in single player and multiplayer. Best recommended if you love multiplayer bomberman, as you can play yourself against the CPU or against up to 7 other people from a single-cart multiboot. 8 player across 2 screens is awesome.
Etrian Odyssey - one of the best dungeon-crawling style RPGs on the Nintendo Ds, this is one tough but unique RPG. It's gameplay is difficult but rewarding, and it offers a sense of accomplishment. Instead of a world that conforms to your level and rewards you with HP every time you level up, you have to strategize about which characters will enter the Labyrinth, how best to allot skill points among your characters, who charges the front line and who stays in back, and how much money you have to spend on reviving dead characters. Very difficult learning curve though.
Hotel Dusk - If you're a sucker for a great story and don't mind a slow paced, puzzle filled adventure, Hotel Dusk fits the bill perfectly. The art style is flat-out amazing. The sepia tones and hand-drawn characters perfectly complement the game's mood and 1970's setting. The film noir themes that occur throughout the game are perfect, never over-the-top or cheesy. It's a classic PC-styled adventure with an emphasis on story and realized in a great way on DS hardware.
Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer - In this rogue-like RPG, you'll move in a turn-based manner through randomly generated dungeons that provide a great challenge and lasting replay value. It's more demanding than its fellow DS-based roguelikes, but it's remarkably well crafted, with streamlined gameplay that belies its impressive substance. Combining planning and persistence with the goal of surmounting the tons of randomly generated dungeons amounts to an impressively addicting experience. Just be aware that this game is in the "roguelike" genre; it can be demanding, difficult, and punishing, but also extremely rewarding and addicting if you have the right mindset.
Diddy Kong Racing -- fairly decent Kart racer in the vein of Mario Kart (arcadey/powerups/weapons, whacky levels/characters) but with planes, karts, and hovercrafts. Good if you want another kart racer, but make sure to get Mario Kart DS first. Single player mode is built upon a hub-world structure. Fun in multiplayer; multicart or single cart multiboot with up to 8 players. Supports online multi. Create your own track feature.
Nintendogs -- This is a 'sandbox game' which means that you play it how you want it. Some people enjoy sandbox games, some don't, but Nintendogs is very popular. Imagine it as a virtual pet dog that you can train or play with and do all kinds of things. Uses the microphone, for example, to tell dogs to "Sit" or "roll over" and such, or use the touchscreen to throw balls/frisbees.
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ooooh, the FORUMER.
I saw this post and was initially wondering what exactly it was about the OP that called for gay fanfiction.
I actually know quite a bit about both versions, and indeed I have the Wii version.
The two games are pretty much the same basic game, with the same concepts, levels, enemies, etc. However, there are some major differences between the games that make a purchase really turn on whether you want a portable version of the game, or a fancier, more polished version of the game.
The Wii version is more technically capable for this type of game. Not only is the viewable area much larger on the TV screen, but there are also a lot of graphical flourishes that did not make it into the DS version. The background grid is constantly warping and folding and waiving, the explosions are big and colorful, and the framerate is rock solid and never ever dips below 60 frames per second or whatever smooth rate it runs at, no matter how much crap is filling the screen. The NDS version has a slightly lesser viewable area around your ship, and it lacks some graphical finesse in details like warping grid background/explosions/etc, little stuff like that, but really when things get extremely hectic it starts to lag in its framerate. But overall the NDS version is still really, really good and extremely well done, and the lacking graphical bits are really not that big of a deal considering it's a portable game.
The next big difference is controls. The Wii version gives you multiple control schemes to use, but there are 2 primary ones that are very viable. One is the Classic Controller - a lot of people who started the series with the Xbox will prefer this, as their skills transfer right over. It's the classic twin-stick shooter setup. The second control method is the wiimote+nunchuck setup. Here you have a "laser sight" on your ship and a little dot on the screen showing you where you are aiming. Movement is controlled by the nunchuck, and you fire by pressing a button on the wii remote. This sounds difficult, and it has kind of a steep learning curve to this control method, but it is actually quite an accurate and efficient method of control for the game once you've spent a good amount of time honing your skills with it - the reason is because it's quicker to turn and make accurate shots with the pointer than it is with a stick, and plus you don't have to shoot until you pull the trigger, which can help with strategies on black holes and those cowardly enemies that evade your fire.
The NDS control scheme works extremely well. You guide movement with the Dpad. Action takes place on the top screen and you have the bottom screen to use as a method for aiming and shooting. It's hard to describe, but you hold your stylus in the direction you want to aim relative to the little ship on the bottom screen (which is in the center). It works really well in practice and is pretty ideal for the game on the NDS.
Both games have online leaderboards, have multiplayer (local), have included Retro Evolved. It's just a question of whether you'd want to have the game portable but lacking some technical finesse, or having a nonportable version that looks and runs incredible on a large screen tv that you control with either the wiimote/chuck or classic con depending on what you have.
You can also send a temporary downloadable full-fledged version of Retro evolved to your NDS from the Wii Version over Download Play. But of course the game disappears when you shut off your system.
I have the Wii version and love it to death; I've gotten the highest Medal on every level, often by a great number of points over the requirement. But as a matter of fact, I love the game so much, I'm looking to buy the NDS version as well, because I think that this is really the ideal portable gameplay, as you can play for short or long periods of time, and it's addicting, and really just a good fit for a portable game. (also having both versions unlocks more levels on both games)
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So if you never played the original you might enjoy the game because you have nothing to compare it to, but anyone who played the original should steer clear of it, as it's just going to disappoint.
Also, "remake of the classic and beloved FFIII". Beloved? Since when?
Good point. The fact is, Yoshi's Island DS is a good game. It's just not as good as the first, which is arguably the best 2D platformer ever made. Still, YI-DS is a good game worth owning if someone wants another good Nintendo platformer after NSMB or whatever..
It's a fantastic game, and it has some 'searching' elements involved that can be somewhat described as akin to Metroid, but it is much, much closer to a Megaman X or Megaman Zero game than Metroid or Castlevania. Still, the game design is pretty fresh for a Megaman game and it's definitely one of the best since the classic PS1 or SNES games. It's a pretty tough game too, but very rewarding.
I dunno. I thought a lot of people loved FF3? I must admit I'm not a big RPG person. (I do realize though that this is the 'real' FFIII, not FFIII-aka-FFVI-in-the-US.)
I'll alter the desc a little bit. Still a good JRPG though.
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Good points. I'll alter the description a little more.
This whole list thing that I keep was started, originally, by me copying and pasting people's recommendations and comments about various games at various times, and whenever Suggestion Threads popped up. At a certain point I figured it would become more convenient to just make a more comprehensive list that could be added/altered to and posted when these threads arise.
So it's actually pretty good to keep getting feedback on what people recommend and what sorts of little disclaimers that may need to be added to various games in recommending them.
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Has anyone played that New Zealand Story Revolution on the DS? I had never even seen it before today. I used to love Kiwi Kraze(New Zealand Story outside of the US) back on the NES when I was little, and I was curious how this one stood up to it. It looks like a remake, which would be cool
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... no love for Nanostray?...
Even though the first one has that silly touch-only weapon selection, i really like it- great music, challenge mode rocks too.
New Super Mario Bros is fantastic though. Both Kirby platformers for the DS are also very enjoyable (and pretty) if you're looking for a platforming fix.
As for strategy, Advance Wars Dual Strike is still king.
I submit that it is you who is the worst platformer that Nintendo ever created, and the worst sequel ever created.
What say you to that?
This, however, I agree with. If you can get around the fact that the game has terrible balance. Just don't abuse Dual Strikes, or else any semblance of challenge vanishes.
Also:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222049
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I pictured an overcast night sky with a spotlight shining against the clouds, only instead of a bat the signal was a crumpled up, faded receipt for a Duke Nukem Forever preorder receipt.
Slash's post is comprehensive and I agree with about 90 percent of it. To narrow down, here are my suggestions:
Etrian Odyssey: Old-school first-person dungeon crawling, like Wizardry or A Bard's Tale. The mapping on the touchscreen makes it a lot more accessible IMO, which is why I love it whereas I hated most other dungeon-crawlers of this ilk.
Puzzle Quest: It's an RPG mashed up with Bejeweled and Magic the Gathering, and it's strangely compelling. Every action (fighting, crafting, researching spells) is a permutation of Bejeweled, and as you match jewels they become the mana for you to cast spells and use abilities.
Phoenix Wright/Apollo Justice series: Sort of point-and-click adventures that don't sound like they should be fun on paper, but they're excellent. You play a lawyer/detective who has to investigate areas and talk to witnesses to find evidence, then you go to court and cut through the bullshit in lying witnesses' testimonies to reveal the truth.
Upcoming: DQIV through VI, FFIV: These aren't here quite yet, but remakes of legendary classics FFIV and DQIV are coming this summer/fall and they will shake the earth with their awesomeness.
New Super Mario Bros.: Nuff said.
Tetris DS: An excellent updated rendition of Tetris paired with NES-era nostalgia and a slew of new modes.
Meteos: The most frantic block-dropping puzzler you'll ever play. It's a lot like Tetris mashed with Smash Bros., if that makes any sense.
Dungeon Explorers perhaps?
Origin: Broncbuster
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates is a pretty good dungeon crawler.
PS2
FF X replay
PS3
God of War 1&2 HD
Rachet and Clank Future
MGS 4
Prince of Persia
360
Bayonetta
Fable 3
DS
FF: 4 heroes of light
any good games for the pippin?
If you are a DQ fan, this game owns. You can easily sink 100 hours in the game, it is so damn good. What makes it so awesome? We all have favorite DQ monsters and love their personalities, now you can finally play as them!! There are many fan services in the game. You can also breed many of the best bosses in DQ history and actually use them in battle, how cool is that. The skill system and art style from DQ8 also make a comeback. Overall the game is not a mere diversion, it is a game so good it could be released for the PS2.
boo. The game isn't bad, it just doesn't live up to its previous iteration. I'd rather play it than Super Princess Peach, personally.
There seem to be 2 groups... one group is rather large, and feels that YI-DS is a decently good platformer. Then there's a group of very, very outspoken fans of the first Yoshi's Island that seem to hate YI-DS with a passion.
what the heck is the pippin?
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I burnt myself so hard and the game got so unforgiving it just smashed my will to continue.
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
Isn't that the Mac video game system TSR was talking about?
PS2
FF X replay
PS3
God of War 1&2 HD
Rachet and Clank Future
MGS 4
Prince of Persia
360
Bayonetta
Fable 3
DS
FF: 4 heroes of light
Lunar Knights is mostly a dungeon hack. You control two characters, one at a time. Each with their own weapons, fighting style, exp, strengths and weaknesses, etc. The gameplay can range from easy as hell to oh god I'm running away now, depending on your characters' levels and skill allocation. There is a fair bit of story, but it's easily skipped. I'd recommend skipping it, as it's generally trash and the voice acting is terrible. There's also a shmup-esque mini game that's pretty fun, and you can just play it from the main menu if you want.
But the hacking/slashing/shooting and character building is a good time.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=58568
Most of the games I talk about aren't on the mega-list above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBbrcNiOD-M&fmt=18
1up says:
"Though Glory Days 2's amalgam of wartime drama, RTS elements and Choplifter/Defender-influenced side-scrolling gameplay is somewhat bizarre, it's also one of the more uniquely addictive games on the DS, and absolutely worth tracking down for fans of action-packed portability...Though it doesn't need a particularly impressive presentation for the formula to work, Glory Days 2 surprises with silky-smooth, colorful visuals reminiscent of a shrunken, high-speed Metal Slug. The soundtrack is also absolutely epic, with booming war marches that compliment the destructive weapon effects perfectly -- get the headphones out. For what it is, it's really a complete package, and quite obviously a labor of love accomplished by a small team with very big ideas. If you've an interest in strategy games and want something a bit different, you owe it to yourself to hunt this game down."
Essentially, you fly helicopters around to pick up civilians and transport troops, planes to drop bombs and combat their airforce, and deploy units to fight on the bottom. Top screen is what you're fighting on, while bottom screen shows how your troops are doing. The overall goal is to push forward, take their bases, and ultimately destroy their units and get their main base.
The touch screen control method is a little complex for me, so I moved to using the pad and face buttons. I'm still getting used to the strategy, but it's a fast and intense game. Apparently there's multi for up to 8 players, which could be pretty crazy. This is a really cool game and I'm surprised I hadn't heard about it til a couple weeks ago. Oh, and I have to echo 1up on the sound - this game sounds absolutely fantastic. It sounds like a film score with headphones on, and the weapons have plenty of oomph.
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
The sound is comprised of the sounds of battle. Explosions, gunshots, ambient war noise, etc. There's some in-game voice acting too.
It controls pretty easily with a few hiccups. WASD movement with the D-Pad, L-Trigger fires, and you aim with the Touch screen. It's really easy and quick to switch weapons, reload, zoom in, throw grenades accurately, and activate context-sensitive things (turrets and throwing grenades in tanks for example) all with the touch screen. My main gripe with the control is that you can't adjust look sensitivity, so I often have to pick up the stylus to make a 180 degree turn. It also affects my ability to aim at small targets, but that's not a huge deal breaker as the game doesn't rely on quick accuracy. The combat consists of stop and pop shooting similar to Gears of War or Uncharted or GTA IV, etc. If you approach a wall or sandbag, you will stick or crouch and then be able to shoot from partial safety. Positioning is more important than accuracy as far as I can tell.
An example of the game: The end of the first level has you and your squad attempt to take refuge in a church. On the way there, you have to clear out the enemy from the front of the church, which includes taking on a few tanks with a bazooka. As you run inside the double doors, more enemies fire at you, one from behind a MG. A battle ensues with your squad taking cover behind church pews, taking potshots and throwing grenades while trying to dodge grenades and MG fire yourself. You eventually move behind a fallen pillar and waste the remaining enemies. Through the broken stained-glass windows, you see a tank approach. The tank proceeds to bust through the wall into the church and begins firing. You then have to run up to the tank and activate a little icon in order to climb the tank and throw a grenade in the hatch. And this is a DS game.
So based on the 3 levels I've played, BiA is a cool game.
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I _so_ wish they'd bring out a number 2... the innovative "rune casting" method of casting spells was awesome!
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
That being said, I absolutely adore both Advance Wars games, and I was really into Trauma Center for a while, although I did find it frustrating at times.
Yeah, I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't have a single Nintendo game for his DS.
edit: And it doesn't hurt that I recently bought a new DS Lite. It's hard to stay away when things look this sexy. I'm sorry I ever doubted you, DS Lite.