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Home Schooling (SOLVED)

I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatnessstarlight at my feetRegistered User regular
edited May 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I was talking to a friend who is home schooled, and I really like the idea.

But I was wondering what the purpose is, what the difficulties are, if colleges look down on it, how I go about doing it, etc.

Because honestly, I'm just tired of school, but I would like to keep learning.

If you need the reasons I'm sick of school, I'll give them, but, really, how does home schooling work?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Your experience with homeschooling will depend entirely upon what you put into it and how good your teacher(s) is/are.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, it's not the learning or the work I have a problem with, and I assume we'll look for a reputable teacher.

    But, do I just decide to do it?

    Or do I have to talk to a counselor or what?

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Uh, I'm pretty sure the decision isn't up to you.

    I mean, yeah you could push your parents for you to be home schooled, but depending on their view of school, along with issues like money and time, you might just be stuck with school.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Everyone looks down on it. Because typically people who are homeschooled are fundie idiots with no understanding of math, science, or even reading and lit.

    It also deprives people of social experiences and just seems to me a form of indoctrination/child abuse.

    Edit: And yeah, it is something your parents would have to commit to. I do believe you are still responsible for tests and scores and the like. Although how rigorously that stuff is tracked is up for debate.

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  • ZyrelaxZyrelax Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    There are many programs (both religious and secular, before it gets brought up) that will provide you with a curriculum and guidance in the various forms of homeschooling. Google "Curriculum consultants," virtural charter schools (naming your state or province), and online schools.

    In my (and my brother and sister's) experience, colleges do not look down on it. I came out of 12 years of homeschooling sufficiently well adjusted both academically and socially. I have completed both college and grad school.

    I don't know how suggesting that homeschooling is universally "a form of indoctrination/child abuse" could be helpful or objective for someone seeking to learn more about it.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I had a friend do continuation school because he was in your situation. Basically this school? You went there once a week to turn in work/take tests, and the rest of the course is juts given to you in a book and required assignments list. But if you do attend one of this schools you will be attending with the bottom of the barrel. This is the place where all the junky kids get kicked to and all that kind of stuff. This is another option that few people think about when getting on a homeschooling kick.

    I'll agree with Than. You can get through homeschooling much like highschool. Just do enough work to pass and not remember any of it. If you WANT to do better, you will need to try very hard to comprehend the material rather than just memorize it and your instructor will need to actually care about their job rather than just doing clocking in.

    Back to my story about my friend. He went to continuation school. After six months he hated it. Even if you have plans to remain social, you get very unmotivated just sitting at home all day doing buttfuck nothing. He came back to school the following year because he missed socializing. Being a bum is only fun for so long.

    As far as how colleges look down on it, i don't think it would matter. Colleges are more into standardized test scores for transfers than anything else. If you do poorly on SATs and what not, you can always just got to CC and transfer in as a junior. It is a lot easier than trying to rush in as a frosh, but it may be important to you to get four years of that top quality education.

    I am not sure about home schooling, but I know that for continuation school you just switch schools like if you were switching to another school in your district. Your local education board should have a website that will tell you options and how to do it.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, I guess I should tell you why I want to be homeschooled so you can tell me whether it's worth doing.

    A few months ago, I've been extremely anxious, almost on the brink of crying during class.

    I'm not scared, but at the same time, I'm terrified of being at school.

    I feel much safer being at home, and I generally don't go out after school for that same reason.

    I don't feel threatened so much as my school isn't full of gun toting gangsters nore angsty disheveled teens.

    I'm fairly popular and in good health, but I can't get over the this is horrible make it stop feeling that I get every day when I wake up.

    It's distracting me during class, and my grades have been steadily dropping since January.

    At this moment, I have 4 fails and two Cs, compared to the almost straight As I got last semester.

    As long as I have a book with equations and explanations for math, I'll be fine so far as comprehending and remembering the material.

    It's just that being at school is actually taking away from my will to learn.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Sounds like you need therapy instead of home schooling. Everyone has a hard time during high school, and I'd say you should try to really get at the issues that are plaguing you as opposed to running away from them.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    But there's nothing that's occurred that should cause me such distress, and it's not that I'm having a hard time, I've got plenty of friends, I'm not frightened of anyone there, but being at school just scares the shit out of me.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It sounds like you need medication, not a complete change in lifestyle. My wife was having anxiety problems, and she got a prescription for a small amount of Prozac each day and it has helped her immensely. Keep in mind this could be an entirely physical thing.

    Personally, speaking as someone who was homeschooled nearly my entire life, I think homeschooling would be the worst thing possible for you right now. It's so easy to just retreat into a shell and avoid dealing with people when you're homeschooled, which is really bad for an introverted person or a person with social anxiety, because let's face it--you're always going to have to deal with people. That's just life.

    In short, don't ask your parents to homeschool you, ask them to get you a doctor's appointment instead.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I was actually considering just doing this for my sophmore year, and going back for my junior and senior years.

    I never considered that I might have an anxiety problem, but I will ask my parents to set up an appointment.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It sounds as though you have anxiety issues. Maybe you should talk to a pro about that, as homeschooling for you appears to be the answer to a symptom, rather than a fix to the root cause of the problem.

    Edit: Beated. Beated nine times.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This absolutely sounds like a mental health issue.

    Say you get homeschooling: what are you going to do when you go to college or the workforce, and start getting the exact same feelings?

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I was planning on treating this as a respite rather than a permanent solution, as I've gone 9 years just fine, but I understand what you're saying.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Do you honestly think you'd go back to high school after taking a year off for homeschool, a situation that will presumably be a lot more comfortable for you even if it's not really in your best interest?

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  • CooterTKECooterTKE Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    i would go see your doctor and explain what is going on. I swear I got post tramatic stress after my wedding where all of a sudden i could not be in a crowd. I got put on medication for about 3 months and now i am fine and can give presentations again.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Homeschooling would just be avoiding your problem instead of fixing it.

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  • ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I tenth (or whatever) what the others are saying about seeking treatment first before withdrawing from school as it sounds like there might be some underlying mental health issues there. (And remember there is absolutely nothing wrong or odd about seeking treatment).

    As for how colleges look at home schooling:
    1. Most schools will scrutinize your ACT and/or SAT score much more closely.
    2. When it comes to applying there could be far more resposibility placed on you when it comes to submiting transcripts.
    2a. If it's an accreditted online program then this won't be a problem, they will send in the transcripts and you should be good to go.
    2b. If it's a non-accreditted program then you might need to submit course syllabi since the college will have no way of knowing what content was covered.
    3. In my experiences, the home-schooled student goes through a more extensive review process and if the student is not admitted to the institution might be more limited in future enrollment options (transferring or attending a regional branch).

    These are just the things that I can think of off the top of my head, but if you are seriously considering home schooling as an option, sit down and talk to your parents. Let them know what issues you are facing and why you think home schooling might be an alternative option.

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  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Personally I say stop being a puss and man up.

    I do understand, though, that there is probably something of a disorder of anxiety going on for you and all. But. I don't think homeschooling is good to remedy that. Instead it might make the problem worse.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    High school sucks, I started to drop out when I was 15 but they wouldn't let me because I was too young. So I was forced to do that stupid once a week thing until the get out early test (the California High School Proficiency Exam) came around. Granted this is California, but other states might have similar tests. And if they are anything like ours, they are incredibly easy. They gave us like 6 hours for the test and it took me short of one. Actually in most states you can just get your GED early.

    As for college? Go to a community college for two years first anyways. I have buddies who graduated high school with 4.0 and up GPAs, thousands of community service hours, near perfect SAT scores etc....who didn't even get into the schools they wanted to. Then other buddies who didn't do half as well in high school who ARE going to the schools they wanted to because they went to a CC afterwards.

    Our entire education system in this country is full of shit. Go to a community college and do well, after two years there you will get into whatever school you want regardless of home schooling, GED or high school diploma.

    The bottom line is that options are open for just about anyone if you are willing to take your time. Shit if you test out early and go direct to a CC you could be done with University two years before any of your friends who stuck around and finished it because they really really wanted to go to prom.

    If you are a driven person who knows what they want to do in life this is a perfectly legitimate option. And if you are a wishy washy I have no idea what I want to do person you are probably just going to end up studying business or psychology anyways so it is still a perfectly legitimate option.

    Personally, I went into art. So I didn't even both with a degree because what the hell do you need a degree in art for? Nothing thats what. But just about everything else you will still need one for.


    I should also note that there are plenty of people who might think this is the worst advice ever. But I am speaking from my own experiences anyways.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'm in california.

    Well, now that I'm at home, and I don't feel that threatened feeling, this topic makes me feel silly, but, as soon as i go back tomorrow, I'll feel exactly the same.

    I do think I need to talk to someone about this, seeing as it's a new happening, and anything that's keeping me from leading on normally certainly isn't normal, I should figure it out, thanks a lot for information on both sides.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    You absolutely need to talk to your parents and your guidance councelor about what has been going on.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    homeschooling doesn't really sound like a good solution for what may be social anxiety or agoraphobia. So, I gagillionth the motion for a counsellor or therapist to help you out with that. Medication may or may not be the answer, really depends on you and the professional you consult for help

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, I guess I should tell you why I want to be homeschooled so you can tell me whether it's worth doing.

    A few months ago, I've been extremely anxious, almost on the brink of crying during class.

    I'm not scared, but at the same time, I'm terrified of being at school.

    I feel much safer being at home, and I generally don't go out after school for that same reason.

    I don't feel threatened so much as my school isn't full of gun toting gangsters nore angsty disheveled teens.

    I'm fairly popular and in good health, but I can't get over the this is horrible make it stop feeling that I get every day when I wake up.

    It's distracting me during class, and my grades have been steadily dropping since January.

    At this moment, I have 4 fails and two Cs, compared to the almost straight As I got last semester.

    As long as I have a book with equations and explanations for math, I'll be fine so far as comprehending and remembering the material.

    It's just that being at school is actually taking away from my will to learn.


    I think you need to get to the root of why you feel this way (anxious, nervous, scared of school) instead of switching to homeschooling. It could be a medical problem you need medicine for. It could be something you need therapy for. In any case, homeschooling would only be a band-aid . . . seek the cure instead!

    Regarding homeschooling itself, a lot of colleges do look down on it. Also, it will swallow a huge chunk of your parents' time. ALSO, are your parents enthusiastic about English to the same extent and English teacher would be? As familiar with math as a math teacher would be? As good at physics as a physics teacher would be? IMO, homeschooling in high school (I don't know your age but am guessing high school?) is very unwise.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    There are some states, I know FL is one, that provide school on-line. My fiances cousin is finishing up this year on it.

    So it's not always a burden to everyone around you that will cost gobs of time and money.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Wait, doesn't a tutor come and do it?

    I'm pretty sure my parents wouldn't be the ones teaching me.


    I'll have to come back to this thread when I'm back in anxious mode because I just got home from the mall with a bunch of threads and I realized it's just at school that I feel that way.

    I have to talk to my counselor about summer school anyway, I'll bring it up tomorrow.

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  • mimizumimizu Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Homeschooling is great for me, since I can focus on stuff I like. When I was in public school, my math teacher actully tried to hold me back in math because
    She knows it already *smile*
    My teachers were jerks :/

    I'm more math, hard sciences, and art oriented, so we focus on that. Most collages want homeschoolers, actully. It's mosty the really religious homeschoolers that they don't want. You'll probly have a harder time getting into a nice science collage if all your textbooks are some variation of 'Jesus and friends explore history!'. I've found HOLT to be a good brand for highschool level. You don't really need to hire someone, I really just teach myself. My mum checks the tests, though.

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  • MephistophelesMephistopheles Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Just wanting to reaffirm what others have said. Your feelings of unease at school are most likely related to an anxiety disorder. I'm not one for giving out psych advice over the internet, but talk to your parents about what has been happening, and talk to a psychiatrist. I would guess that these feelings are because of Social Anxiety Disorder. Don't worry though even though your feelings of discomfort can be puzzling, this can easily be treated.

    Homeschooling for any reason other than academic ones would be (as others have said) treating a symptom and not a root cause.

    Good luck, I'm sure you will get to the root of this, and will have it perfectly under control. Many people have gone through your exact experience.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, I guess I should tell you why I want to be homeschooled so you can tell me whether it's worth doing.

    A few months ago, I've been extremely anxious, almost on the brink of crying during class.

    I'm not scared, but at the same time, I'm terrified of being at school.

    I feel much safer being at home, and I generally don't go out after school for that same reason.

    I don't feel threatened so much as my school isn't full of gun toting gangsters nore angsty disheveled teens.

    I'm fairly popular and in good health, but I can't get over the this is horrible make it stop feeling that I get every day when I wake up.

    It's distracting me during class, and my grades have been steadily dropping since January.

    At this moment, I have 4 fails and two Cs, compared to the almost straight As I got last semester.

    As long as I have a book with equations and explanations for math, I'll be fine so far as comprehending and remembering the material.

    It's just that being at school is actually taking away from my will to learn.

    You need treatment for the anxiety, that's the problem - not the school. Go see your school counsellor, get a referral to a real psychologist/psychiatrist. Try the psychologist first, they don't drug you up first go because they aren't allowed to write prescriptions (although they may reccomend that you see someone who can do that for you). If they're good, they'll try something like cognitive therapy first. Don't go to a GP, they generally lack the experience to handle mental health properly.

    Meanwhile, I think you should have a work through the stuff in MoodGYM. Its really good for identifying problem behaviour patterns to yourself and helping you work through them. Find a time when you feel comfortable and safe, and work through the modules on the website.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    My parents are vacationing in laguna beach, but I just talked to them, and I explained it all to them, the anxiety, the possibilities, what I can do in the future, and we're gonna ride out the rest of the year, and see how I feel come tenth grade, possibly heading to a psychologist beforehand.

    My dad really doesn't want me to do the online schooling thing because, as he put it "You're as smart as I was, and I graduated at 15. I don't want you falling into a period where you're lost because you finished so early and feel alone."

    I'll take a look at the MoodGYM when I get home today, thank all of you.

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  • enderwiggin13enderwiggin13 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I won't presume to diagnose anyone, but there is a form of anxiety called situational anxiety where it is triggered by specific stimuli. I've dealt with social anxiety and depression myself and counseling helps a great deal. I've since been weened off the medication and counseling and I'm doing fine.

    Best of luck to you. :)

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  • TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    My parents are vacationing in laguna beach, but I just talked to them, and I explained it all to them, the anxiety, the possibilities, what I can do in the future, and we're gonna ride out the rest of the year, and see how I feel come tenth grade, possibly heading to a psychologist beforehand.

    Don't ride it out, go to a psychiatrist as soon as you can.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I meant rest of the school year, only half a month left.

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  • TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    This isn't where the discussion is heading, but here's my personal experience tossed in anyway, like an unwelcome salad.

    I was homeschooled.

    I can attest to the poor socialization thing, because I got to meet all of those kids. Also, most of the homeschoolers in our area that weren't religious sheltering types were the Randy Weaver sort. This went a long way towards my appreciation for firearms, though.

    Basically, make your kid socialized at gunpoint if you have to, and you'll probably homeschool him OK. I turned out decent even though I completely quit after 15, a total non-self motivator at that age. Most people just assume I'm a college grad because of my ability to self-educate and my job. I don't disabuse them of this notion.

    My parents were a professor who taught at a local college and a former high school english teacher. This got them no end of resentment from other homeschoolers who already have a crazy persecution complex relating to qualifications to educate their kids on their own.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah, I wouldn't let my parents try to teach me, and besides that, they are far too busy.

    Most likely, I'd take online classes which suit me just fine.

    If I make the effort to go out, to see friends, I end up having a good time, it's just leaving the house and the walk/car ride there that gets me all antsy.

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  • Durandal InfinityDurandal Infinity Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Truthfully, and trust me, I fully understand your social anxiety. It is something very hard to deal with but it should be something that you should attempt to remedy in a social situation like school. Psychiatry and (though Im not a big fan of it) medication may be able to help you. By isolating yourself in a home situation you save what? 3 years of highschool at home? What kind of College experience do you expect to have after that? or work experience? Work this out while you are young and your future or job does not depend on it.

    You sound like a very bright kid, from a very bright family, you have to see that homeschooling will only delay and compound any sort of social anxiety you have now into full blown sociopathism in the future.

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    swordfights, I developed severe anxiety issues sometime my late junior year, only I reacted to it horribly. Let's not get into that. Point is, I regret giving into the anxiety and letting it control my decisions.

    While homeschooling would be a much better choice than the one I made, I still feel like you'd be doing yourself a disservice by allowing your anxiety to distort your thoughts on what should be a normal part of your life. You'll have to trust random internet stranger when I say that I've been where you are, I've gone to bed wishing that I just wouldn't wake up in the morning, that I could sleep forever and never have to go to school again, but these aren't rational thoughts, and they're not normal feelings. They're symptoms that something has gone haywire, and the sooner you learn to identify exactly what's causing it and overcome it(not on your own of course. I second the advice of everyone to talk to a professional), the better time you'll have of it in the future whenever these feelings surface again. and I don't mean to sound ominous or anything, but they will most likely surface again if you are predisposed to anxiety.

    You sound like you've got good parents and friends, so you're well equipped to handle this, and I sincerely hope you do.

    Remember, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I swear I am not ignoring your advice, and that it is weighing on my mind heavily, but from my standpoint, doing my sophomore year online might be a good choice.

    If I'm not mistaken, I can take as many classes as I want, correct?

    As I said before, I failed quite a few classes, and making up credits would be in my best interest.

    I definitely want to go to high school for my senior year, and most probably my junior year as well.

    It's an odd thing to come to grips with, I've never thought of myself as the anxious type, and since making this thread and hearing from all the anecdotes and suggestions, I found myself today feeling disoriented and confused...

    I definitely need to talk to someone about this, and I think possibly my father would be the best choice.

    Posting our text messages to each other would be boring, but he is truly an incredible man.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Tarranon wrote: »
    swordfights, I developed severe anxiety issues sometime my late junior year, only I reacted to it horribly. Let's not get into that. Point is, I regret giving into the anxiety and letting it control my decisions.

    While homeschooling would be a much better choice than the one I made, I still feel like you'd be doing yourself a disservice by allowing your anxiety to distort your thoughts on what should be a normal part of your life. You'll have to trust random internet stranger when I say that I've been where you are, I've gone to bed wishing that I just wouldn't wake up in the morning, that I could sleep forever and never have to go to school again, but these aren't rational thoughts, and they're not normal feelings. They're symptoms that something has gone haywire, and the sooner you learn to identify exactly what's causing it and overcome it(not on your own of course. I second the advice of everyone to talk to a professional), the better time you'll have of it in the future whenever these feelings surface again. and I don't mean to sound ominous or anything, but they will most likely surface again if you are predisposed to anxiety.

    You sound like you've got good parents and friends, so you're well equipped to handle this, and I sincerely hope you do.

    Remember, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
    I have felt this and said this to so many people this year, and that pretty much seals the deal that there is something much larger than what I had thought previously to this topic.

    Thank you, I do count myself lucky for all the support I've been given, both in my personal life, and apparently, on this forum, and thank you for sharing your experience.

    If you don't mind my asking, did you drop out?

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    If you don't mind my asking, did you drop out?

    I finished junior year by the skin of my teeth. Then my family moved and I attended a new school my senior year. None of the previous stimuli that I'd attributed as the cause of the anxiety was present at this new environment, but it still came back. I did end up dropping out in the middle of the year. The very thought of going to school was paralyzing, but looking back at it now I still can't exactly figure out what prompted that episode.

    I actually still go through these periods from time to time, but I've learned how to better think myself through them over the years. My mantra when I'm going through them is basically,'it's not as bad as you think it is, don't trust what your anxiety is telling you'. And oddly enough, thinking that hard enough actually works for me. I'm sure you'll find something that works for you. Like I said earlier, the sooner you confront this thing, the better off you'll be, now and in the future.

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