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Saints Row - Because I crave more GTAIV

TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Games and Technology
I looked around, so I apologise if there's already a SR topic.

GTAIV has left me craving more (the mark of a good game) and I've begun to look to Saints Row for my fix. I've read that it's the best GTA knock off. However, I couldn't stand previous GTA games - the combat, driving, and especially story were all too poorly done. I love the combat and driving of GTAIV, and it's story is one of the best I've ever experienced.

That said, if I go into Saints Row, will I be disappointed? Does it have the old clunky GTA3-SA style aiming system, or the now-familiar over the shoulder style system? How is driving - do cars have weight? And the story - does it ever have any stupid "kill this guy with a dildo" style missions, or is it's story actually good?

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This topic is relevant to my interests as I had been thinking about getting Saints Row for some time now.

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Saint's Row is a damn fine game, and I too picked it up craving more GTA. It has a free aim system, the cars control well (maybe a little too well, since you pretty much never slide) and there is so much to do. I find myself actually rushing through GTA to get back to Saint's Row and Bully.

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  • GunstarGunstar Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    There's a demo on XBL.

    Having not played it, that's all i can offer.

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  • Bacon-BuTTyBacon-BuTTy Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    To be honest I think Saint's Row is pretty poor in comparison.

    But I really really liked it before I played GTA IV.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    well, I've found I CAN enjoy free roaming games, just not the classic GTA3 trilogy. I dunno why, but the old GTA trilogy doesn't do it for me. Dead rising, for example, was a blast, and I love GTAIV.

    Saints Row is $20 now, right?

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  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The only things Saint's Row had over past GTA games was the better shooting system, rag doll physics, and more fun melee combat.

    All of these things were remedied in GTA4.

    There is no reason to play Saint's Row.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This would be like eating sandwiches all your life, discovering Mayo, then going back to eating them without.

    Why would anyone do it?

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Saint's Row was an amazingly well done GTA-clone for its time. IMHO, it set a decently high bar for GTA IV to cross. It had decent visuals, the voice acting was excellent, the gun mechanics were spot on, etc. The problem is that GTA IV surpassed it, so going back to play it ... not so sure.

    That said, I do think playing Saint's Row lessened the "wow factor" for GTA IV, for those of us who played it. Many of the things you see in GTA IV were attempted, in some fashion, in SR. Just perhaps not as polished.

    I think it'll be fine if you don't expect too much from it. If you're expecting something better than GTA IV, then you're sure to be disappointed.

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  • artooartoo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Saints Row is a damn fine game. I have actually 100%'d it, very fun. :) The missions are pretty fun, mostly shooting stuff, which is fine considering the shooting system is great. However the story is SO awful. But hopefully you can laugh at how bad it is.

    But the real reason I love it is the customization, seriously I must have spent 5 hours making cars.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Flaw!

    It's more like eating your sammiches with mayo, and figuring that maybe every once in a while it's nice to eat something other than mayo.

    Also mayonnaise is pig disgusting.

    For serious, ew.



    Row is a pretty good game, it's a fair leap between gtaiv and the previous installments, with lots and lots of urban warfare. Lots of it. Constantly. Far more so than any grand theft game, if you're at all violent minded.

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Those of you who are saying there's no reason to go back to it? Have you played the Insurance Fraud missions?

    Also, I love collecting the cars.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'm not expecting GTAIV. I'm expecting something more on the GTAIV scale than GTA3-SA. Especially in the 3 areas I described above. Does that describe SR?

    To me, the most important change needs to be aiming. Is aiming similar to GTA3-SA? Because if it is, that's a major deal breaker. If it's over-the-shoulder, then it's bought. IMO, that's the perfect action aiming system. If it's anything in between... then I guess I'm really relying on you guys for opinions.

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  • Al BaronAl Baron Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
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  • Mullitt The WiseMullitt The Wise Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It's a really fun game.
    Earning rep to play missions gets a little tedious towards the end of the game, but other than that the missions are a blast.
    More cartoony than GTA IV, but less features.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    There's going to be a sequel to Saint's Row at the end of the summer, so we'll see how it washes out. From what they've shown so far, GTA4 will be a lot prettier, but there's some polishing to be done over the next few months.

    ETA: It's a hell of a lot better than True Crimes... the other big GTA clone.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'm not expecting GTAIV. I'm expecting something more on the GTAIV scale than GTA3-SA. Especially in the 3 areas I described above. Does that describe SR?

    To me, the most important change needs to be aiming. Is aiming similar to GTA3-SA? Because if it is, that's a major deal breaker. If it's over-the-shoulder, then it's bought. IMO, that's the perfect action aiming system. If it's anything in between... then I guess I'm really relying on you guys for opinions.

    I never played GTA3-SA, although I do remember lots of people bitching about the gun controls. From what I remember, SR is over-the-shoulder. I had no problems with combat in that game. In fact, I remember thinking, "The next GTA better damn steal this control scheme."

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    JCRooks wrote: »
    I'm not expecting GTAIV. I'm expecting something more on the GTAIV scale than GTA3-SA. Especially in the 3 areas I described above. Does that describe SR?

    To me, the most important change needs to be aiming. Is aiming similar to GTA3-SA? Because if it is, that's a major deal breaker. If it's over-the-shoulder, then it's bought. IMO, that's the perfect action aiming system. If it's anything in between... then I guess I'm really relying on you guys for opinions.

    I never played GTA3-SA, although I do remember lots of people bitching about the gun controls. From what I remember, SR is over-the-shoulder. I had no problems with combat in that game. In fact, I remember thinking, "The next GTA better damn steal this control scheme."

    Hm, without playing SR I disagree. I loved GTA's gun control scheme. It was absolutely perfect for me.

    GTA3-SA had some AWFUL gun controls.

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    As said before, there's a Saint's Row demo on the marketplace, and it's 20 bucks. It's great for what it is.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Saints Row is good. GTA IV makes improvements upon it, yes, but it's still damn good. And it makes GTA look serious, as long as you can get into the inherent cheese of the gang setting.

    SR2 is coming out this year if memory serves, though. You might have more luck with that.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    That video is awesome on so many levels.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Flight wasn't a lot of fun either in the GTA3-series. I don't know why they insisted on stuff like using the planes, helicopters, and other BS in the standard missions for San Andreas, while also making the controls wonky as hell. Optional missions, sure... but the airport graveyard missions drove me insane.

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  • artooartoo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The aiming is pretty much Max Payne minus diving and bullet time.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Saints Row gunplay is much more like GTA 4 and much less like GTA 3.

    The game was really good, I thought. The story is nothing special, but it's very fun to play.

    In a lot of ways, SR feels like the beta version of GTA4.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    artoo wrote: »
    The aiming is pretty much Max Payne minus diving and bullet time.

    so... standard FPS controls in a third person setting? No over the shoulder zoom?

    :|

    Well, I'm downloading the demo.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    Flight wasn't a lot of fun either in the GTA3-series. I don't know why they insisted on stuff like using the planes, helicopters, and other BS in the standard missions for San Andreas, while also making the controls wonky as hell. Optional missions, sure... but the airport graveyard missions drove me insane.

    Flight in GTA3, and to a lesser extent VC (excluding helicopters), was really more of a glorified physics bug. You could do it, but it sure as hell wasn't ever polished.

    Flying in SA however was awesome once you got the controls down. The missions themselves tended to range from tolerable to shit, but free flying was one of the best things in the game.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    Flight wasn't a lot of fun either in the GTA3-series. I don't know why they insisted on stuff like using the planes, helicopters, and other BS in the standard missions for San Andreas, while also making the controls wonky as hell. Optional missions, sure... but the airport graveyard missions drove me insane.

    Flight in GTA3, and to a lesser extent VC (excluding helicopters), was really more of a glorified physics bug. You could do it, but it sure as hell wasn't ever polished.

    Flying in SA however was awesome once you got the controls down. The missions themselves tended to range from tolerable to shit, but free flying was one of the best things in the game.

    Definitely. One of the moments that sticks out in my mind is the one where you have to pick up Sweet late in the game and take him back to the 'hood.

    I took a helicopter.

    It was EPIC, and I felt fit with the whole storyline really well.

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  • artooartoo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    artoo wrote: »
    The aiming is pretty much Max Payne minus diving and bullet time.

    so... standard FPS controls in a third person setting? No over the shoulder zoom?

    :|

    Well, I'm downloading the demo.

    More or less, also note that the game is a bit more polished then the demo.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    welp. I guess they took the demo down, because it's not on the all game demos list.

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  • SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Basil wrote: »
    Also mayonnaise is pig disgusting.

    For serious, ew.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    On a side note, I hate Microsoft's market place. It loads so slow when you scroll down a list quicly.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Silpheed wrote: »
    Basil wrote: »
    Also mayonnaise is pig disgusting.

    For serious, ew.

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  • Uncle_BalsamicUncle_Balsamic Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Buy it anyway, it's a really good game. The best GTA clone and probably better than the GTA3s.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This is like craving more Sonic CD and picking up Jazz Jackrabbit.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Welp, I'm strapped for cash, so now the real question - is it worth trading in Super Paper Mario for?

    Note that I beat SPM... what, a year ago? And I haven't touched it since.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This is like craving more Sonic CD and picking up Jazz Jackrabbit.

    So... it's a good thing? Because Jazz Jackrabbit was ten flavors of Awesome.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pretty much, but at the same time it's just not the same.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pretty much, but at the same time it's just not the same.

    Well if your sonic CD:JazzJackrabit::GTAIV:Saints Row analogy holds true then i'd be pretty happy. I've already explained that I'm well aware that Saints Row WON'T be as good as GTAIV, but I'm looking for something similar.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    In some ways it's better than GTA IV, in a lot of ways it is a lot worse. It's kinda fun though, and the GTA IV crew lifted more than one idea from it.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It's easier to stab people on the ground with a knife in Saints Row, so you know.

    If that sort of thing matters to you.


    Shunk. Shunk. Shunk. ... shunkshunkshunkshunkshunkshunkshlockshlockshlockshlockshlockvrrrrrrbuddabuddabuddabuddaCRRRRZZZZZZZZZzsplashspeeeeeeew.

    Drip.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Could you not just head to the nearest Blockbuster and rent a copy first to see if it's your cup of tea?

    Anyways, what exactly was it about IV's aiming that you felt was better? The auto aiming? Because I swear all the GTA ones have felt pretty much the same to me. But either way,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba56GEWm8pU

    Try looking at that and the few times they use guns and see if that's your cup of tea. If you absolutely despised the old game's aiming system, you probably won't like this either.

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