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Name the fantasy series (I can only remember one scene)
I have a feeling it's from the Wheel of Time series, which I've only just begun to re-read, but I'm not completely sure.
It features the invasion of a fort (possibly in the far north, hella cold in any case), which is either built into a mountain or blocking a narrow pass. Street fighting follows, in very tight alleys. Fort might get blowed up in the end.
It's not much to go on, but a pretty memorable scene, it's been bugging me for a while. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Well, there's also a scene where the same thing happens in A Darkness at Sethanon by Raymond E. Feist, but that's more of a giant castle way up north that gets invaded. Still, if you haven't read his books, go read them too.
Sounds to me like the battle of Y'Ghatan in the book 'The Bonehunters' by Steven Erikson. One of the Malazan Book of the fallen.
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The Malazan 14th is pursuing the remnants of the Whirlwind army under Leoman of the Flails as they seek refuge in the fortress of Y'Ghatan, street fighting ensues in the city, followed by Leoman sacrificing the remains of his army by blowing up the city, trapping his own soldiers, and those of the Malazan 14th, in the walls to burn.
Now that I think about it, that battle took place on the edge of a desert though, not in a place that's really cold.
Yeah... this could be pretty much anything. There's at least a couple battles that match that description in The Runelords series by David Farland as well (specifically in the first three books).
Well, there's also a scene where the same thing happens in A Darkness at Sethanon by Raymond E. Feist, but that's more of a giant castle way up north that gets invaded. Still, if you haven't read his books, go read them too.
This is the first thing that came to mind.
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Well, it's not from Wheel of Time, that's for sure.
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Well, considering the lack of actual specifics in the original post I'd suggest it actually wasn't all that memorable of a scene in the first place.
Don't hate on the Wheel of Time... it's... umm... long... and has a lot of main characters... so many that you sometimes go an entire book without seeing what some of them are doing.
The description seems like a staple of a lot of fantasy novels. Hell, it could even be LOTR, both the battle of the Hornburg in "The Two Towers" (although less likely) or the battle of Minas Tirith from "Return of the King."
This sort of reminds me of one of the Drenai books by David Gemmel, where they're defending a many-walled city. It's been quite a long time since I read it though, I can't remember location specifics.
No to all these because I haven't read (or even heard of!) these books:
- There's a pretty big fight scene in Winterfell at the start of A Game of Thrones IIRC.
- It reminds me of one of the Elric books where they besiege his cousin's castle and they have the giant mirror on top.
- Sounds to me like the battle of Y'Ghatan in the book 'The Bonehunters' by Steven Erikson. One of the Malazan Book of the fallen.
- There's at least a couple battles that match that description in The Runelords series by David Farland as well (specifically in the first three books).
My dad is on the third book of WoT at the moment, and I've asked him to tell me as soon as he encounters anything like it. I will find out soon enough.
If it's in Sethanon, I will be very disappointed (in myself) because the Magician series was my first suspect, and I forgot that I actually had read Silverthorn, bought it again, read it and found much of it very very familiar. I am 100% sure I never read Darkness at Sethanon, but my memory isn't any good, obviously.
At least nobody has suggested any of the David Eddings books cause fuck a Sparhawk.
I know by the time I got to the fifth or sixth book of Wheel of Time I cursed Robert Jordan and wanted him to die, but the first few books are pretty fun.
It could be WoT. The Stone of Tear was mentioned which definitely involves fighting in the streets and (likely) explosions. But I don't think it's cold and it's not really mountainous. But there are certainly other castle/fort battles in WoT as well that could potentially fit the bill.
Wait is it Nine Princes in Amber by Roger Zelazny? Where Corwin and, I think it was Bleys, storm Amber and have to climb the long staircase that is only wide enough for like two men abreast?
This sort of reminds me of one of the Drenai books by David Gemmel, where they're defending a many-walled city. It's been quite a long time since I read it though, I can't remember location specifics.
Don't hate on the Wheel of Time... it's... umm... long... and has a lot of main characters... so many that you sometimes go an entire book without seeing what some of them are doing.
A little off topic but I really really enjoyed the Wheel of Time series until around book 7, where major events kind of slowed, and eventually stopped happening. It started feeling like the author was running out of story to tell and was just artificially extending the series to make more money.
It could be WoT. The Stone of Tear was mentioned which definitely involves fighting in the streets and (likely) explosions. But I don't think it's cold and it's not really mountainous. But there are certainly other castle/fort battles in WoT as well that could potentially fit the bill.
It does involve explosions cause I'm pretty sure I remember Mat using fireworks in this way
but Tear is on the southern coast of the WoT world and it is hot as shit there, so no not cold
Well, I can think of quite a few major events in WoT that can fit your definition. Here they are in no particular order (the list does have spoilers for events as I try to give more information per battle).
A) Assault on Tear. It is an attack against a major fortification by several groups at once. It starts with explosions inside the fort and then the rest of the fight is inside the building, not really in the streets, by Rand as well as Aeil and others.
Assault to get the Horn back. Rand and his group hit up a port city controlled by the guys from across the ocean. Major event here is a sword fight between Rand and the governor and then the blowing of the Horn that summon the dead heroes.
C) Assault on Andor's capital controlled by Rhavin. This one is pretty notable as it has a point where Rhavin blows up a group of attackers, killing Matt and Aviehnda and several others. This is undone after Rand uses baelfire on Rhavin (undoing his actions including the explosion). This fight takes place partly in the world of dreams.
D) Assault on the renegade Aiel camp by Perrin to get his wife back. This involves a large scale battle by Perrin's forces while his wife is actually being escorted out (in a round about way) with several others (including the Andor queen)... they end up trapped in a building for a bit.
E) There is the skirmish with Rand and Lan vs Fain and his buddies in the city that peace-bonds weapons and can detect channeling with a big triangulation device.
This is not a complete list of city battles in WoT, just several that may fit the question. Personally, I think it is more likely one of the Song of Ice and Fire fights (though I don't recall forts being blown up).
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Now that I think about it, that battle took place on the edge of a desert though, not in a place that's really cold.
But read the book anyways, it's good
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This is the first thing that came to mind.
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Is it because it's
Don't hate on the Wheel of Time... it's... umm... long... and has a lot of main characters... so many that you sometimes go an entire book without seeing what some of them are doing.
no there isn't
It could be from the Wheel of Time, sounds sort of like the end of the 3rd book with the Stone of Tear
but it could also be about a million other things
Well, shit.
I was sure it was burned down and had to be rebuilt after everyone left, or something.
I should probably re-read them all before Dance comes out, anyway.
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thats towards the end of the 2nd book
- There's a pretty big fight scene in Winterfell at the start of A Game of Thrones IIRC.
- It reminds me of one of the Elric books where they besiege his cousin's castle and they have the giant mirror on top.
- Sounds to me like the battle of Y'Ghatan in the book 'The Bonehunters' by Steven Erikson. One of the Malazan Book of the fallen.
- There's at least a couple battles that match that description in The Runelords series by David Farland as well (specifically in the first three books).
My dad is on the third book of WoT at the moment, and I've asked him to tell me as soon as he encounters anything like it. I will find out soon enough.
If it's in Sethanon, I will be very disappointed (in myself) because the Magician series was my first suspect, and I forgot that I actually had read Silverthorn, bought it again, read it and found much of it very very familiar. I am 100% sure I never read Darkness at Sethanon, but my memory isn't any good, obviously.
At least nobody has suggested any of the David Eddings books cause fuck a Sparhawk.
I know by the time I got to the fifth or sixth book of Wheel of Time I cursed Robert Jordan and wanted him to die, but the first few books are pretty fun.
And now he's dead.
Legend.
Fair enough!
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A little off topic but I really really enjoyed the Wheel of Time series until around book 7, where major events kind of slowed, and eventually stopped happening. It started feeling like the author was running out of story to tell and was just artificially extending the series to make more money.
It does involve explosions cause I'm pretty sure I remember Mat using fireworks in this way
but Tear is on the southern coast of the WoT world and it is hot as shit there, so no not cold
Assault to get the Horn back. Rand and his group hit up a port city controlled by the guys from across the ocean. Major event here is a sword fight between Rand and the governor and then the blowing of the Horn that summon the dead heroes.
C) Assault on Andor's capital controlled by Rhavin. This one is pretty notable as it has a point where Rhavin blows up a group of attackers, killing Matt and Aviehnda and several others. This is undone after Rand uses baelfire on Rhavin (undoing his actions including the explosion). This fight takes place partly in the world of dreams.
D) Assault on the renegade Aiel camp by Perrin to get his wife back. This involves a large scale battle by Perrin's forces while his wife is actually being escorted out (in a round about way) with several others (including the Andor queen)... they end up trapped in a building for a bit.
E) There is the skirmish with Rand and Lan vs Fain and his buddies in the city that peace-bonds weapons and can detect channeling with a big triangulation device.
This is not a complete list of city battles in WoT, just several that may fit the question. Personally, I think it is more likely one of the Song of Ice and Fire fights (though I don't recall forts being blown up).
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I was thinking it would be this, when the wildlings attack the first or second time.