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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    lostwords wrote: »
    my cousin converted to mormonism to get married to a mormon lady. poor guy, he always complains about never being able to drink beer and sodas. but hey, he loves the crazy lady, so whatcha gonna do?

    I wouldn't give up booze for Mormonism unless my wives were Meghan Fox, Salma Hayek, and Mariska Hargitay 12 years ago.

    Butters on
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    the thing with "hate the sin, not the sinner" is it leads to so much passive aggressiveness.

    i hate passive aggressiveness. i prefer open and active aggressiveness, as that's at least honest and can be confronted directly.

    my mother thinks homosexuality is a sin and that homosexuals are mentally handicapped in a way. she thinks it's equatable to schizophrenia or autism, in that it's not a person's fault, their brain is just that way and you should help them and love them even if they are doing something bad.

    it's so mind-blowingly passive-aggressive it hurts my fucking brain. it's why my mother doesn't know my sexual orientation, because i see how she treats my gay uncle, who is her own damn brother.

    Pony on
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    projeck you don't eat meat?

    Big Red Tie on
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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    projeck you don't eat meat?

    nope!

    thus i am the gayest gay

    Projeck on
  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    man, i would take mariska hargitay in her tough cop L&O: SVU any day. throw in stabler, and you got yourself a party

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    eet meet fagit

    edit: not my bonar tho u fukin queer har har har

    Defender on
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Defender wrote: »
    Projeck wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    So I heard we were talking about atheists being complete dicks in here.

    Two year old article, but if the people I've encountered are any indication, it's still relevant.
    Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
    By Jeannine Aquino


    Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national survey conducted by University sociology researchers. Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists.

    "It tells us about how Americans view religion," said Penny Edgell, an associate sociology professor and the study's lead researcher. "Many Americans seem to believe some kind of religious faith is central to being a good American and a good person."

    Anecdotal evidence, because that shit is always fun: I just finished an "American History after 1945" course a couple weeks ago, and one the things that stood out for me was the discussion when we got to the problems JFK ran into while running to become the first Catholic president. Asking the class whether they'd vote for a Catholic, a woman, a black man, yada yada... When the topic whether or not anyone would vote for an atheist, the answer from the class was a resounding "no".

    I've seen the same study, and I have no idea how I'm supposed to correlate that with the responses in this thread - the majority of the people in this thread seem to either agnostic, atheist or have lapsed from their faith in some way. Is it that the average SE++ poster is that different from the average American? Or maybe that our current generation's religious views have changed dramatically since that poll was conducted?

    We are posting on a videogame webcomic forum

    we are not the average american

    Yes, the term "non-representative sample" applies very well here.

    I really have no idea how the average american lives or what he does with his time.

    Brolo on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Projeck wrote: »
    projeck you don't eat meat?

    nope!

    thus i am the gayest gay

    i am a hunter

    i kill animals myself and eat them

    i do this in order to set the balance right in the universe

    basically i am compensating for dude's like projeck who don't eat meat, so i eat more meat and kill more animals on their behalf

    you're welcome, projeck

    Pony on
  • RinderRinder Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    my cousin converted to mormonism to get married to a mormon lady. poor guy, he always complains about never being able to drink beer and sodas. but hey, he loves the crazy lady, so whatcha gonna do?

    I wouldn't give up booze for Mormonism unless my wives were Meghan Fox, Salma Hayek, and Mariska Hargitay 12 years ago.

    Hell, I'd take up booze for Meghan Fox.

    Rinder on
  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    the thing with "hate the sin, not the sinner" is it leads to so much passive aggressiveness.

    i hate passive aggressiveness. i prefer open and active aggressiveness, as that's at least honest and can be confronted directly.

    my mother thinks homosexuality is a sin and that homosexuals are mentally handicapped in a way. she thinks it's equatable to schizophrenia or autism, in that it's not a person's fault, their brain is just that way and you should help them and love them even if they are doing something bad.

    it's so mind-blowingly passive-aggressive it hurts my fucking brain. it's why my mother doesn't know my sexual orientation, because i see how she treats my gay uncle, who is her own damn brother.

    Edit: Fuck, hit enter by accident. Real post incoming.

    Volucrisus Aedrius on
  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Jesus is my homeboy.

    We kick it old school.

    Bedlam on
  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    drinking beer, eating bacon, watching nascar, beating his wife

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Defender wrote: »
    eet meet fagit

    edit: not my bonar tho u fukin queer har har har

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    Projeck on
  • JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Projeck wrote: »
    projeck you don't eat meat?

    nope!

    thus i am the gayest gay

    I cannot imagine life without steak, it's too depressing.

    Junpei on
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    lostwords wrote: »
    man, i would take mariska hargitay in her tough cop L&O: SVU any day. throw in stabler, and you got yourself a party

    Yeah make that 8 years ago or prior.

    Butters on
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  • CJTheranCJTheran Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Artreus wrote: »
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    CJTheran wrote: »
    See, if there were anyone I'd want with their finger on The Button, it's an aetheist, and here's why:

    he firmly believes that there's nothing for him after death: this is all he's got. Ergo, he's going to be the least interested in getting other people killed for stupid reasons, as that's just wasting a whole lot of perfectly good life.

    If anyone is going to want to keep this world the best, it's the guy who knows it's the only one we've got, and the one who believes there's no bearded old guy in the sky telling him to hate gays.

    That seems like a good argument, but then at the same time a religious person would view the killing of all those people as a sin that would be big enough to send them to hell, or at least force them to spend a while in purgatory. Speaking of purgatory, anyone besides me see that movie Wristcutters? It was pretty good.

    Wristcutters was a fantastic movie.

    Also CJTheran. I really hope you are joking about the "bearded old guy in the sky telling him to hate gays".. well. I am pretty sure you are. It is just one thing that bugs me about a lot of fundies.

    I honestly have no idea how they manage to believe they are better than anyone when they are so full of hate and violence for people who they believe are not following God's will. The Bible quite explicitly states that you are supposed to love your enemy and a bunch of other stuff along those lines. (if The Gays are so evil then I guess They qualify as enemies?) There is no fucking way you can be so full of hate and vitriol and still be following God's will. Hate the sin, not the sinner, etc.

    Other things I was debating putting into the "beared man" slot:

    -Zeus
    -Flying Spaghetti Monster
    -Multi-tentacled ever-thing
    -(Jack Kirby's) All-Father
    -Osiris
    -Thor

    it just came out of the list as the most bizarre and extreme thing on the list.

    CJTheran on
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ick i just got an eyelash in my mouth

    how

    Big Red Tie on
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    Beasteh wrote: »
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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    Projeck wrote: »
    projeck you don't eat meat?

    nope!

    thus i am the gayest gay

    i am a hunter

    i kill animals myself and eat them

    i do this in order to set the balance right in the universe

    basically i am compensating for dude's like projeck who don't eat meat, so i eat more meat and kill more animals on their behalf

    you're welcome, projeck

    thanks!

    Projeck on
  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    lostwords wrote: »
    drinking beer, eating bacon, watching nascar, beating his wife

    "Thou shalt put thine woman in her place" was the 11th commandment but they lost the tablet

    Zombiemambo on
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited June 2008
    i want to be agnostic but when pressed i'll break and rant about how silly believing in god is

    bongi on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    when my uncle came out of the closet, my mother refused to speak to him for like, a year.

    at first i thought it was just her being an ultra-religious bitch but then i found out that the real story was that my uncle confided in her years ago about his homosexual leanings and she tried to help him "fix it" by fixing him up with her friends and stuff and basically trying to straighten the gay out of him.

    so when he was like "no actually i accept being gay and don't hate myself anymore" for her it was like a stab in the back on top of things.

    this lasted basically until christmas, when my grandma was like "you both stop this shit, the one who doesn't show up to christmas is out of the family"

    so they both showed up and got to talking and apologized to each other and stuff

    but things are still awkward and strained

    Pony on
  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    Me Too! on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lol! wrote: »
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    i'd be more down with vegetarianism if there was high protein alternatives to meat that weren't based on fucking soy

    soy don't agree with me in any large quantity

    Pony on
  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    the thing with "hate the sin, not the sinner" is it leads to so much passive aggressiveness.

    i hate passive aggressiveness. i prefer open and active aggressiveness, as that's at least honest and can be confronted directly.

    my mother thinks homosexuality is a sin and that homosexuals are mentally handicapped in a way. she thinks it's equatable to schizophrenia or autism, in that it's not a person's fault, their brain is just that way and you should help them and love them even if they are doing something bad.

    it's so mind-blowingly passive-aggressive it hurts my fucking brain. it's why my mother doesn't know my sexual orientation, because i see how she treats my gay uncle, who is her own damn brother.

    Yeah I can see where you are coming from with that. But man, I had a youth pastor for a while who was one of the best guys I have ever met. Really smart, pretty funny and very understanding about basically everything.

    A gay kid started going to our church, of course most of the kids were ... less than understanding about him. But my youth pastor treated him just like everybody else. And uh. Some other things. I can't really communicate too well tonight.

    In other news, half of my city has been under several feet of water within the past day or two, the hospital has been evacuated, and a bridge has collapsed. And that is on top of the storms and oh hey there was a tornado ripping through a trailer park type section of town earlier in the week, I should start a thread about it.

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  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    man soy burgers are pretty good

    maybe i just don't have the highest standards

    Big Red Tie on
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    Lol! wrote: »
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    i'd be more down with vegetarianism if there was high protein alternatives to meat that weren't based on fucking soy

    soy don't agree with me in any large quantity
    don't beans have protein?

    bongi on
  • CJTheranCJTheran Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lol! wrote: »
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    Do you talk about how fucking delicious these dead animals are as you chomp on them around her

    "Om nom nom, jesus h christ this cow is mother fucking delicious. good crap, I can taste the sadness in its eyes, and it's fucking delightful"

    CJTheran on
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    Lol! wrote: »
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    i'd be more down with vegetarianism if there was high protein alternatives to meat that weren't based on fucking soy

    soy don't agree with me in any large quantity

    The increased estrogen thing is kinda bad too.

    Brolo on
  • RinderRinder Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Weren't they trying to perfect a way to "grow" meat in large containers so people could eat meat without having an animal die for it?

    Rinder on
  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    Not just vegetarian
    Vegan. Nothing with any kind of animal products in it
    Which I guess includes Skittles and Jell-O, and fuck that I like my candy

    Me Too! on
  • BibbleBibble __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    hey guys

    i'm a vegan

    Bibble on
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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lol! wrote: »
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    No no no

    You tell her that vegans are crazy bitches

    You'd be a vegetarian

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  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Okay in reply to Pony's post, I feel the same way a little about my family, well, less and less, seeing as over the years I've held discussions with my parents about homosexuality (they still think I'm straight) and how it relates to civil rights and now they honestly don't care if gay people get married.

    But then again my parents are a mixed-race couple, and my dad had to deal with a lot of shit from my mom's father, so it might have influenced his position a bit.

    But anyways, yeah, my sister and her husband are devoutly religious, Catholic I should say. I like Catholics, am a former Catholic, but they are just unwilling to see the issue of gay marriage. They don't think gay people are mentally broken, but they think that, because they are gay, and gay people can't get married, they should never have sex. Their reasoning is that premarital sex isn't okay, and since gay people can't get married, then any sexual activity they have is "premarital" or under that same blanket.

    Its a little frustrating, but whatever.

    That said, I'm an agnostic, or maybe nontheist would be more appropriate. I don't pray to a god, I don't go to church, I don't do any of that shit. However, from time to time, I do make tobacco offerings to the spirits of my ancestors and meditate. I also thank them from time to time. Like, when my family says grace, and I'm around them, I usually just quietly (and mentally) thank the spirits of my ancestors for the food and family.

    Volucrisus Aedrius on
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    skittles has animals in it? whaaat

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  • BibbleBibble __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    skittles has animals in it? whaaat

    gelatine

    Bibble on
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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    lostwords wrote: »
    drinking beer, eating bacon, watching nascar, beating his wife

    "Thou shalt put thine woman in her place" was the 11th commandment but they lost the tablet

    There were 15 commandments originally.

    Butters on
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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    CJTheran wrote: »
    Lol! wrote: »
    I have a friend who's hardcore vegan
    I've told her more than once that I'd do it if steak wasn't so goddamn delicious
    Also venison

    Do you talk about how fucking delicious these dead animals are as you chomp on them around her

    "Om nom nom, jesus h christ this cow is mother fucking delicious. good crap, I can taste the sadness in its eyes, and it's fucking delightful"

    Not in a dick way
    It's more of a joke among friends, because she's not super-pushy about "meat is murder" and shit
    It's like "You guys eat meat and I don't, oh well who fucking cares"

    Me Too! on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Rinder wrote: »
    Weren't they trying to perfect a way to "grow" meat in large containers so people could eat meat without having an animal die for it?

    yes

    they can do it

    the problem is that it tastes fucking awful

    they can basically grow muscle tissue in a petrie dish but it's gross as hell to eat.

    they're trying to figure out how to "flex it" and build it into something like real meat

    Pony on
  • BearstranautBearstranaut Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    SKITTLES IS MADE OF PEOPLE


    ANIMALS I MEAN

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony what is your WPM

    Projeck on
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