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Finding a good tattoo parlor.

drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So I've been sitting on a design for a few years (over six now), and I think I'm going to move forward with getting a small tattoo. I'm trying to find out how to go about finding a reputable parlor, though. The only reference I have from someone I trust (in that he has some really well-done tattoos, seriously amazing work) is to go somewhere in North Carolina, a few states away. Is there some sort of reputable online directory for this sort of thing? And if not, can anyone make any recommendations for a Washington, DC-based parlor?

Also, if I don't have any recommendations, is it out of the ordinary to go to a place just to check it out, see if it's clean, some examples of their work, and then leave without getting anything until I'm sure I know which parlor I want?

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I find that the best refrence for a tattoo shop is to see live examples of there work. Pictures on websites and from there portfolio are great and all but there is nothing like seeing a tat that has been on a person for a few years to see how there work holds up. In my experiance, tatto artist are fine with you comming by and checking the place out as long as you are not just wasting there time. They do understand that what they are putting on your body is for life and that most people are nervous there first time. Good luck !

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    It's fairly normal for people to go into a shop and talk to the people in there.

    Most people that I've talked to with tattoos are more than happy to accept a compliment on a particular one, as well as let you know who did it, and if they have any reccomednations in the area. So if you see someone waiting in line behind you at Dairy Queen with something that you love, let em know.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    drhazard wrote: »
    So I've been sitting on a design for a few years (over six now), and I think I'm going to move forward with getting a small tattoo. I'm trying to find out how to go about finding a reputable parlor, though. The only reference I have from someone I trust (in that he has some really well-done tattoos, seriously amazing work) is to go somewhere in North Carolina, a few states away. Is there some sort of reputable online directory for this sort of thing? And if not, can anyone make any recommendations for a Washington, DC-based parlor?

    Also, if I don't have any recommendations, is it out of the ordinary to go to a place just to check it out, see if it's clean, some examples of their work, and then leave without getting anything until I'm sure I know which parlor I want?

    I'll respond to your last question first. It is not out of the question and is, in fact, advisable to check a place out before you get any work done there. Tell the artists working at the shop that you want to see their portfolios. Portfolios are just what the name suggests: samples of their work. This is a tattoo artist's version of a resume. As you browse through the portfolio you're looking for a couple of things. First, you're looking for tattoos done in the same style as the one you're looking to get. So, if you're looking for black work, make sure the artist in question has done black work that looks nice. Another thing you're looking for is clean lines. Make sure that straight lines are straight, the shading looks nice, the colors blend well together, etc... Remember, this will be on your body for the rest of your life. If you get a bad feeling or the artists isn't as good as you would like, leave.

    As far as online sites, you can always try out http://www.bmezine.com. However, it does have sections that are NSFW and will probably get you weird looks if you look at it in front of friends and family. It is, however, a great source of information for anyone pursuing any type of body modification (tattoo, piercing, cutting, branding, etc...). Finally, once you do find an artist, you can always run their name by me. I'm heavily tattooed, and I know a lot of other heavily tattooed people (including artists), and we generally have our ears to the ground as far as good shops and terrible shops are concerned.

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  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Have them show you their tattooing room and chair set up. Make sure it's a clean and sterile environment. Make sure that they open fresh needles for each client and don't sterilize their own needles. You shouldn't feel afraid to ask these questions and the propietor of the establishment should be forthcoming with this information.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Thanks, everyone. I knew about checking for cleanliness and the sterility of the environment, so I think I'm good with that. I'll check out bmezine when I get home as well.

    Maybe I can pose another question to you guys--something I'll probably end up taking the artist's word for, but there's no harm in asking here. I'm looking to get a tattoo of the Rune of Torment from Planescape: Torment. It won't be terribly big, not more than just a couple of inches square. Here's a page with the Rune (the bladed portion) for reference: http://planescape.outshine.com/crap.planescape-torment.org/symbol.html

    I want to base it on this one in particular: http://planescape.outshine.com/crap.planescape-torment.org/images/symbol/sym2.jpg I can't decide if I want it all black/greyscale, or try to add some color. Of the two halves, one is supposed to be pure steel and and the other is rusted metal. How feasible, and how much more expensive, would it be to get that done? Not a big deal, and I'll probably get more concise answers from whoever I choose, but I'd also like to make sure I'm not getting ripped off if someone tells me the color version would cost four times as much if it should only really cost twice as much, that sort of thing.

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  • OdinOwnsYeAllOdinOwnsYeAll Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Just a note on your first question - I had the inside of my lip tattooed at Jinxproof in Georgetown. They were clean, friendly, and did good work. A few days after I got it I noticed a part where the ink hadn't taken, so I went back and they touched it up free of charge! I recommend them to you, although they're not especially cheap.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    drhazard wrote: »
    Thanks, everyone. I knew about checking for cleanliness and the sterility of the environment, so I think I'm good with that. I'll check out bmezine when I get home as well.

    Maybe I can pose another question to you guys--something I'll probably end up taking the artist's word for, but there's no harm in asking here. I'm looking to get a tattoo of the Rune of Torment from Planescape: Torment. It won't be terribly big, not more than just a couple of inches square. Here's a page with the Rune (the bladed portion) for reference: http://planescape.outshine.com/crap.planescape-torment.org/symbol.html

    I want to base it on this one in particular: http://planescape.outshine.com/crap.planescape-torment.org/images/symbol/sym2.jpg I can't decide if I want it all black/greyscale, or try to add some color. Of the two halves, one is supposed to be pure steel and and the other is rusted metal. How feasible, and how much more expensive, would it be to get that done? Not a big deal, and I'll probably get more concise answers from whoever I choose, but I'd also like to make sure I'm not getting ripped off if someone tells me the color version would cost four times as much if it should only really cost twice as much, that sort of thing.

    Most tattoo artists work by the hour. Depending on how many colors you're planning to use, which I didn't really get, sorry, they may charge a bit more, but that would probably only be a result of having to mix a bunch of colors. If I understand correctly, you want one rust colored and one steel colored? This probably wouldn't be much more of a price increase, since it would only be two colors, you probably wouldn't be looking at too much more than just a solid black piece.

    I will, however, warn you about tattoo sizes. Where are you planning to have this design put on your body? Sometimes, bigger is better. I know a lot of people who have tiny tattoos on their arm, and it looks kinda silly. Try to get it somewhere that flows with the rest of your body proportionate to both placement and tattoo size. I can dig up a couple of examples to show you what I mean if you're interested.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Just a note on your first question - I had the inside of my lip tattooed at Jinxproof in Georgetown. They were clean, friendly, and did good work. A few days after I got it I noticed a part where the ink hadn't taken, so I went back and they touched it up free of charge! I recommend them to you, although they're not especially cheap.

    Another good point. Good tattoo artists will, almost always, touch up tattoos for free. Every tattoo I've gotten has required a minor touch up; it's kinda the nature of the beast.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    real tattoo artists won't charge you more for extra colors. they charge you by the hour thats it. some will charge you for drawing time, others only from the time the tattoo machine starts to the time its done. if they want more money for extra colors, run, don't walk, away.

    check out the shop online, see if people do the style tattoo you want. you can always drop in and check out portfolio's. My suggestion is not to look at the best ones, but the worst ones in there since you want worst case scenario.

    a reputable shop will answer your questions/ not get upset for you to come in and check things out.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Once the tattoo has been put on your skin, before it's been inked, remember it's not too late to walk away. If you don't like something about the place, or the artist, just walk away. They won't be offended, and if they are, fuck them they probably aren't good artists.

    The one thing you need to remember is that this is all about you. This tattoo is permenant, so don't feel bad about insulting the tattoo artist by declining him or her to tattoo you. Just politely decline and walk away, pay whatever fee they might charge for a consultation and leave.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Go into a shop. Ask to see books of their art. Look through, if they're not in the middle of a conversation, say thanks and wander off to another shop and see what their art is like.

    If you see people with nice tattoos in public and it's appropriate (ie they aren't in the middle of stuff), ask them where they got their art/tattoo's done. Smile, be nice, compliment them a little on it (looks nice/cool/really good), etc. This works particularly well if you're in any customer service job, because small talk is totally appropriate in such a setting

    word of mouth and seeing live work is really teh best

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I've heard good things about Jinx Proof, but it's very expensive. British Ink DC is also supposed to be good.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    british ink is very good. both cynthia or paul will set up with a sick tattoo

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    also little vinnies in baltimore if you can get up that way. eric gregory is awesome among many great artists.

    a good tattooist will usually charge about 150 an hour

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    to chime in.... for all the talk of a 'tattoo is forever' etc. Is that really true anymore ? I know there has been the laser surgery for a long while...but i dunno the results.. and in the USA anyway, they are talking about a product called wrecking balm which is a cream which supposedly dissolves a tattoo.


    Aren't there temporary inks too? or is that still experimental?

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Thanks again, everyone. I will especially check out Jink Proof and British Ink.

    Like I said earlier, I was just thinking the tattoo shouldn't be much larger than four square inches (so, two inches by two inches) either on my shoulder or upper arm. Is this too small for that particular area? Especially since I'm a tall (6'5") guy?

    (I know I'm really just getting into questions I can expect the artist to answer, but if I've got a resource here I may as well use it.)

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    probably too small. it will look out of place at that size for that location. the bigger it is the better fine detail will show up. my tattoo covers the majority of my back and you can see all the tiny details in it. if i did it smaller either i would not have it or it would turn into a muddy mess.

    yes tattoos are still forever. even lasering doesn't remove it completely it lightens it up tremendously but you can usually still see the tattoo due to scarring

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    and, from what I hear, lasering hurts more than getting the tattoo. To the point of being -fucking- painful. But I haven't undergone it personally

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    No matter what you do, you should avoid getting that tattoo in any place where it isn't going to conform to the shape of your body. Tattoos on the upper arm and shoulder end up looking like stickers almost all of the time unless they're part of a bigger design.

    Ask the artist who's going to do it what he thinks about where he can shape that onto your body.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hrm, fair enough on the size thing. If I find I can't get it done in a discreet place (still worried about job prospects if this Guildhall thing falls through) and in a relatively small (read: done quicker and cheaper) design, I may have to put this off longer than I thought, as I'm leaving the relative comfort of DC for grad school in August. I'm not adverse to a larger tattoo, or paying for it, but if it needs to be larger to conform to a more agreeable part of my body, I won't have enough time to save up for it and make sure nothing goes wrong with it, I think. (Well, more the money factor, really.)

    Thanks again, guys! (And like I said, I've been sitting on this for about six years now, I highly doubt I'll want to get rid of this to the point of having it seared off my body eventually.)

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    i think the relative shape of what you have,would look good on the back shoulder blade. and assuming you don't wear tank tops to job interviews, you will be set.

    maybe add a cool ruinish/weathered type border and it would be pretty sweet. make it look like weathered stone perhaps, mostly black and grey?

    if you go this way, Cynthia at British ink is pretty good at the celtic type stuff and while not similar she has done that kind of thing before

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  • Werewolf GamerWerewolf Gamer Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lots of good advice in here. If you can't find someone locally to recommend a shop just check them out in person. I have never been in a shop where they weren't willing to talk to you. In fact my current artist will make sure you chat so that you get exactly what you want. A good artist will help you on the sizing. He'll be honest if something won't work with the detail you want.
    When I wanted to get the coverup done for a bad design of a cat tattoo on my lower back we worked for awhile getting the design right. We took pictures and sizing of the tattoo and then he worked out a design over the next few days. The first couple weren't quite what i wanted but he was totally cool and listened to the elements i wanted and the end result was amazing! Now I won't go to anyone else.

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Unfortunately for you, the shape of what you want (i looked at it) doesn't really look that awesome without modifications on any of the spots you listed. In the sizes you're thinking of, the best spots for something like that would be, imo, the back of a hand, the side of the neck, or your foot. If you don't mind piecing some other things around it, your calf wouldn't be a half-bad idea, either, but that is definitely not my favorite place to get tattooed. Whatever you do, don't let the artist rush you through where you want to place it, because a lot of times they will.

    Someone comes into a shop with a design that they already want and where they want it, it's the artists first inclination to get 'ir done and get paid. Don't let this happen. Sit and talk with them about where they think they can put it on you without making it look like a sticker.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Oh, believe me, I won't do a thing without talking their ear off. Unfortunately, I'm not 100% sure what the next two years will do to me, so if I don't get the career I want and have to fall back on my standby (government work with a security clearance), I don't want to get anything visible in a church, if you know what I mean. I'd rather wait until I'm more stable and get a larger one if that makes it more reasonable.

    (And, in game, the tattoo is on his upper arm, but larger. That's why that's my first inclination, or on my shoulder blade.)

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    mts wrote: »
    yes tattoos are still forever. even lasering doesn't remove it completely it lightens it up tremendously but you can usually still see the tattoo due to scarring

    Damn I'm gutted to hear this, the only thing that stops me getting a tattoo is the thought that I would never be able to get rid of it if my mind should change. Does anyone here actually have experience of having a tattoo removed? Was there a lot of scarring?

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    it really depends on the color of the tattoo, some pigments get lasered off better than oters due to teh wavelength of the laser. i think actual scarring is due to the laser rather than the tattoo

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    mts wrote: »
    it really depends on the color of the tattoo, some pigments get lasered off better than oters due to teh wavelength of the laser. i think actual scarring is due to the laser rather than the tattoo

    All I want is a black Roman numeral (XXVII) across the top of my arm, I've been doing a bit of research and what I've read suggested a simple black tattoo should be able to come off more or less. When/if I do get my tattoo I doubt I'll want it removed I just want to know I have the option. But I'm toying with the idea of waiting a few years because I too am hearing about semi-permanent inks and improved lasers being developed.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Since this thread is already here, does anyone have any good personal recommendations on places in Orange County/LA. I'm sure there's a ton, but I've only been to a couple and I'd like to have a few more to check out and hear about.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    An experience with lazer removal

    http://www.cockeyed.com/science/tattoo/tattoo.html

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Everybody keeps jumping on laser removal... but what about that cream ?

    Wrecking balm

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  • LondonBridgeLondonBridge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    Where in DC does the OP live?? If he is near the city then I suggest Rick's Tattoo in Arlington. If he is in the outskirts then it's Exposed Temptations in Manassas.

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Don't get a tattoo if you think you'd ever have it removed. The idea that you consider laser removal means that you shouldn't have a tattoo. They are not your fucking girlfriend's pants, or argyle socks. What I mean is it is not a fashion decision. If you are thinking laser, then stop thinking tattoos.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Where in DC does the OP live?? If he is near the city then I suggest Rick's Tattoo in Arlington. If he is in the outskirts then it's Exposed Temptations in Manassas.
    I'm in the city, a little north of Chinatown.

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