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nVidia launches GTX280/260
Rook
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nVidia have lifted the NDA on the GT200, which is pretty much the first second generation hardware since the launch of the 8000 series a year and a half ago.
Yes, it's big and complicated. It's also built on a 65nm process which means it's going to be expensive.
1.4 billion transistors (690M G80)
240 stream processors (124 G80)
512-bit memory interface (384 G80)
1GB GDDR (768MB G80)
GTX280 $650
GTX260 $400
And rather disappointingly this card might not be the Crysis Killer you're looking for.
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Yes, it's big and complicated. It's also built on a 65nm process which means it's going to be expensive.
1.4 billion transistors (690M G80)
240 stream processors (124 G80)
512-bit memory interface (384 G80)
1GB GDDR (768MB G80)
GTX280 $650
GTX260 $400
And rather disappointingly this card might not be the Crysis Killer you're looking for.
Benchmarks/Reviews
Anandtech
HardOCP
Extreme Tech
Hexus
Firing Squad
Tom's Hardware
The Inquirer
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The more interesting part is just how few games (Crysis) are actually pushing the new cards. Outside of some badly optimised games due to the switch to newer tech (Lost Planet, DiRT, R6:Vegas) most games will run fine at 1920x1200 on an 8800GT.
According to Anandtech, ATI is no longer competing in the top-end Single-GPU category, which is what the GTX280 is. Price/performance perhaps, but the release of a high-end card doesn't stop nVidia from releasing a middle-end card down the line.
Spec-wise, the GTX260 appears to be the "GTS" of this generation. And price-wise, it's a better deal than the 8800GTS was, as the 8800GTS 640MB was $500 on release day.
Does anyone know if this GPU is going to be the one that finally adds double precision support to CUDA? Since the articles are from gaming sites I'm guessing they don't cover CUDA-related info.
I'll most likely either be getting a 38xx series or an 8800 gt/gts if the price goes down again.
Yep, up to 64-bit floating point precision.
Check out the Anandtech article, it discusses CUDA-related stuff.
I should have specified the 320mb. I picked mine up on release and it was "just right" - expensive, but not incredibly so, and it worked pretty well with my LCD's native resolution. Most reviews indicated a minimal frame rate increase between the 320 and 640 at the 1680x1050 res I game at. I was just hoping something comparable would be out with the launch of these next gen parts.
maybe.
I was hoping the 9600gt would get to around $100-120 soon. Mid July would be ideal. This... thing isn't going to do that. It may as well be released on a different planet. Maybe the Radeon 4850 will drive prices down.
Besides I have yet to see anything besides Crysis choke my 8800GTS 512MB and I finished that game.
What.
This, more than the sheer numbers, is why consoles are killing PC gaming. All the developers focus their A-teams on the more profitable (or at least higher revenue) console titles which, if we're lucky, is ported to the PC. But since it's tied to the now-outdated console tech, most games are not programed to use the raw power that is now available, making all these shiny new parts go to waste. Which is why the 8800GT is such a great deal, even now, "2 generations" later.
I don't see why this is a bad thing. I'd rather get 2-3 years out of my graphics card (as I have always done) then jump on the mythic upgrade cycle just to play a game.
Games released now, are looking much better than games released 1-2 years ago. And they run better too (c.f. Lost Planet -> DMC 4, or DiRT -> GRID). Even Crysis Warhead will apparently run a lot better than Crysis.
People can still go out and buy the top end hardware, and crank the resolution and AA/AF up to max and get a better experience with higher framerates, or those of us can settle on an 8800GT, know that we can play pretty much every game the way we want to and save a bundle of cash.
But now? I'll probably be able to squeeze just as much game play on middle/hi-end cards that are incredibly less expensive.
$200 for a great GPU that will last me? Yes, please.
Also the 4850 was up for preorder at FXVideo and buy.com for $200. They've since taken the deal down. A google search shows of places in the US and UK that are selling them. In the $200 price range. Reviews I have seen paint it in a good light. Well worth the money I'd say.
The GDDR3 4870 will hit soon in the $300 range. Curious as to how it performs. They will have a GDDR5 model sooner or later.
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I mean, if I had the money (and that's an enormous amount of money), I would do it.
But I'm crazy.
That's exactly what I was thinking of when I posted that.
Now that I look back at that, they were using 4 9800GX2's. There are no dual-GPU cards with this core yet, so it's still better to use the 9800GX2's right now.
So, yeh, this card is completely pointless.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1466/nvidia_geforce_280_gtx_in_tri_sli_tested/index.html
You could just take the pile of twenty dollar bills and light them on fire for much the same effect.
but the GTX's will last longer
..did you actually read any of the reviews posted?
I have had no issues. Work like a charm
No issues.
Why has there been considerably less hype for new GPUs post-8X00 line? I knew a little bit about ATi/AMD's HD3X00 cards, but I had never even heard of the NVidia 9 series until just a couple days ago.
There's a couple of reasons. Firstly the 9X series from nVidia was barely an update at all, just a dieshrink with new branding. The second reason is that games just aren't needing more to do more. An 8800GTS from 1.5years ago is still running all the new games UT3/CoD4/GRID/DMC4 etc at 60fps 1920x1200. The only game that people are bitching about at the moment is Crysis, and even then I'd like to see what Crytek do with Warhead.