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Wanting to spend a year in Alaska

WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
For a long time I've wanted to live in Alaska for a while. I think it's a beautiful place and think it'd be a really neat experience to live there. I think I'm finally about at a time in my life where I could take a year off from university and go find myself a job out there. Thing is, I've never lived away from my parents.

Living in Ontario (and Montreal before that), I'm used to a fair bit of snow, and from what I hear Alaska isn't actually that cold. I really don't know where to begin.

First thing I think I would need to sort out is a place to stay and a job to fund that place to stay. My intention is to do this as both an experience and make a bit of money to pay my tuition at the same time. I'd obviously be intending to rent, rather than buy, a house/apartment/other abode as it would just be a temporary move.

My questions include:

1) How do I go about finding a job in Alaska before I make the move? (I have looked into Monster and craigslist, and both seem fairly promising in terms of potential job market, but how hard is it to get a job there?) I have a great deal of computer knowledge (though no formal education for it) and would probably do well in a tech support style position (which there seem to be alot of around there) but would rather something where I wouldn't feel like I might as well be anywhere. I have also been considering retail type jobs, but don't know if I'd be able to afford to stay on that kind of money.

2) How much worse are prices in Alaska?

3) Do I need AWD/4WD? Bassically, do I need a huge SUV or would a car do?

4) I'd much rather live out in the "wild" but still close to a city, am I likely to need a gun to protect myself from bears and the like?

5) I intend to go to law school after I finish my bachelors degree, would it be better to wait until I'm finished my bachelor's degree, as having one would likely increase my income potential and ability to get better jobs, or would taking a year off after my 2nd year be just as good? And when job ads say "Bachelors degree preferred" (for stuff like assistant manager at stores) are they generally looking for a completed degree, or would a partial degree be likely to be enough?

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  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As an Alaskan expatriate, I know a thing or two about the northland. I hail from Fairbanks, which is within the central portion of the state. It gets pretty goddamn cold there, in the winter -- if you end up in Anchorage of Juneau, it won't be nearly so frigid.

    1) I'm not sure about in Anchorage or elsewhere, but I have contacts with a software company in Fairbanks, they usually have spots open for tech support / QA-type positions. I can check into it and, if they need people, put you in contact with managers there -- assuming you're going to Fairbanks, that is.

    2) Consumer goods cost a bit more, energy costs a fair amount more, housing is about average. It's not a cheap place to live, but it's a deal less than most metropolitan areas (Fairbanks again -- I'd never even think of living in Anchorage).

    3) If you're driving in the winter (and if you live out of town, you will be), it's probably advisable to have a 4/AWD vehicle. The Subaru Leone is extremely common, along with the larger / newer Legacy / Outback; both vehicles are sturdy, AWD-standard cars that get acceptable fuel mileage. Due to their prominence, there's plenty of replacement parts to be had for them, which makes them all the more attractive.

    4) Though it's unlikely you'll ever encounter a bear, it's reasonable to have a firearm for self-defense in the off chance a bear will try to break in (this does happen, but again, very rarely). Make sure you're trained in the use / cleaning of the weapon, and have the correct sort -- for bear deterrence, my folks pack a 12-gauge shotgun with slug shells, though, thankfully, they haven't yet needed to use it. They also go much farther out-of-town, so you may not require such an item at all.

    5) I'd probably hold off until you have the degree in-hand; regardless of what the degree is in, it looks better to employers when you have it.

    Edits: tweaks to wording and clarifications.

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  • BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Man, all I really got to add is that I hope you like mosquitoes. I haven't been to Ontario, but know Alaska's mosquitoes are supposed to be several times worse than Canada's.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ASimPerson wrote: »

    Yes, yes, nobody you know lives there.

    Also, the mosquitoes are terrible on the tundra in particular -- seriously ravenous.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I've spent quite a bit of time in Northern Ontario, which is known to have some of the worst mosquitos around Canada (or at least Ontario) so I'm used to them on that account. I'd rather not wait until the end of my degree, as I'm ready for a break from school now and dont particularly want to take more than one, but convinced myself to wait at least another year.

    I don't really know what parts of Alaska are like, but from what I hear the areas immediately around Anchorage have both ocean and mountains and are really nice, but I'd be open to any other recommendations. I figured being near Anchorage would also be good for employment.

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  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Disclaimer: this is all personal experience, your mileage and that of others may vary.

    The land around Anchorage is, indeed, very nice. Scenic, even. The city itself, however, is downright awful -- it's as though, in their desperation to be considered a "city," the people of Anchorage took it upon themselves to exemplify the worst aspects of American cities, resulting in a filthy, crime-ridden place, packed with vagrants and beggars.

    Fairbanks may seem bodunk or tiny by comparison, but I'm prepared to say that the Alaskan experience there is more authentic. The environment is more harsh, and as such, fosters a nearly-begrudging sense of community in the residents -- hippies, libertarians, Vietnam vets, natives, et al.

    This could simply be me waxing romantic, but I honestly avoided Anchorage when it could be helped, and advise the same for those considering a visit or move to the state.

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  • ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Man, all I really got to add is that I hope you like mosquitoes. I haven't been to Ontario, but know Alaska's mosquitoes are supposed to be several times worse than Canada's.

    I got 57 mosquitoes (I counted, slow night) with an open handed slap to my roommate's back at one point. It can get pretty bad. Staying with some friends in Girdwood once we camped out in their backyard, around morning time one of the guys stumbled hungover-ly out of the tent to go to the house and walked right by a bear. You have to be careful with these kinds of things, I'll second the advice that owning a firearm is a good idea.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    if you don't like civilization, ketchikan or skagway or something of that nature
    if you need a town with a walmart and stuff, anchorage or juneau and stuff

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Where in Alaska are you planning on going? The climate can very widely depending on your destination. In Wrangell it gets down below 20 in the winter and up to maybe 70 in the summer, and it rains constantly. In Barrow, well, it's Barrow, be sure not to let your eyeballs freeze in their juices.

    It's more expensive in most any aspect, when compared with similar sized towns on the continent. Milk here is 5.68 a gallon and gas is 4.87 a gallon. I'm paying 640/month in rent. Jobs aren't too hard to come by, if you have a connection. I would recommend holding off until you have a job, as just showing up looking for work is going to get you all kinds of dicked over and in debt. You're walking into a lot of tight rural communities and you need to have a place to go so you can start to build relationships and advance.

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  • BoutrosBoutros Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Disclaimer: this is all personal experience, your mileage and that of others may vary.

    The land around Anchorage is, indeed, very nice. Scenic, even. The city itself, however, is downright awful -- it's as though, in their desperation to be considered a "city," the people of Anchorage took it upon themselves to exemplify the worst aspects of American cities, resulting in a filthy, crime-ridden place, packed with vagrants and beggars.

    Fairbanks may seem bodunk or tiny by comparison, but I'm prepared to say that the Alaskan experience there is more authentic. The environment is more harsh, and as such, fosters a nearly-begrudging sense of community in the residents -- hippies, libertarians, Vietnam vets, natives, et al.

    This could simply be me waxing romantic, but I honestly avoided Anchorage when it could be helped, and advise the same for those considering a visit or move to the state.

    This dude is totally wrong, FYI. Fairbanks is a frigid shithole (I lived there for 5 years) and Anchorage is awesome. There is less crime, filth, and vagrants than he would lead you to believe (though there are a lot of vagrants, but nothing like Seattle or some other places). A lot of people hate Anchorage because they came up here for some fucking wilderness experience and they don't think that Anchorage is part of the "real alaska" or some shit. But from the perspective of someone who grew up here and whose parents came here for jobs not wilderness, I think Anchorage is the best place in Alaska to live. Also Anchorage is right in the middle of the awesome Chugach mountains, I can get in my car right now and in like 30 minutes I could be looking at fresh bear shit.

    Also Anchorage has the best weather, cheapest prices for everything except real estate, and the most job opportunities of anywhere in the state.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ok, I agree I'd probably try to get my hands on a fire arm up there. I think being like a 15 - 30 minute drive from Anchorage would probably be best because I'd get a balance of wilderness and awesome mixed with the convenience of having a "safety net" of actual stores and stuff. I do want to be part of the "middle of nowhere" life, and I think thats part of what attracts me to Alaska, just because theres such a huge amount of empty land (from what I hear.)

    I think I may go up for my next summer for 4 months and see how I feel about spending a whole year. I think I'd enjoy it, but at the same time dont want to commit myself to a year off of university if I don't know for sure.

    What would I find in Wrangell? Is it wilderness-y? (Just noting that $640/month in rent is about half of what I've been able to find on any real estate site, and therefore is likely much more affordable than anywhere else)

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Wrangell is on an island in Southeast without a road out, and much of the economy is based off of the fishing industry. Front street, where you'll find most all of the stores, including the grocery store, automotive, gift shops, and things like that. Front Street is about 1/4 mile long. Most apartments run around $500, but they are real holes on the cheap side. Once you get out of town (which isn't a long walk) you'll either run into a body of water or find yourself in the wilderness. There are a lot of trails and rugged terrain, but much milder in temperature and elevation when compared with a lot of the interior.

    Most towns along the inside passage are similar to Wrangell. Look at Ketchikan, which is a little bit bigger, as well.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    When I was at Wrangell 2 years ago the place was a ghost town. Maybe 3 or 4 shops open. I was weird.

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  • TaGuelleTaGuelle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I can't imagine why you'd trade the bush of Ontario for Alaska. You should just move to Sudburry. (I kid I kid)

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  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Boutros wrote: »
    This dude is totally wrong, FYI. Fairbanks is a frigid shithole (I lived there for 5 years) and Anchorage is awesome. There is less crime, filth, and vagrants than he would lead you to believe (though there are a lot of vagrants, but nothing like Seattle or some other places). A lot of people hate Anchorage because they came up here for some fucking wilderness experience and they don't think that Anchorage is part of the "real alaska" or some shit. But from the perspective of someone who grew up here and whose parents came here for jobs not wilderness, I think Anchorage is the best place in Alaska to live. Also Anchorage is right in the middle of the awesome Chugach mountains, I can get in my car right now and in like 30 minutes I could be looking at fresh bear shit.

    Also Anchorage has the best weather, cheapest prices for everything except real estate, and the most job opportunities of anywhere in the state.
    Disclaimer: this is all personal experience, your mileage and that of others may vary.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Xaquin wrote: »
    When I was at Wrangell 2 years ago the place was a ghost town. Maybe 3 or 4 shops open. I was weird.

    What time of year did you come? Nothing's really open on the weekends, and nothing is open after 7 on any given day, really.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Uncle Long wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    When I was at Wrangell 2 years ago the place was a ghost town. Maybe 3 or 4 shops open. I was weird.

    What time of year did you come? Nothing's really open on the weekends, and nothing is open after 7 on any given day, really.

    It was july on a thursday (not a big liner cruise or anything, just a day trip).

    I guess I was there from about 10:00am to maybe 3:00pm or so

    It was really really strange.

    maybe it was some kind of holiday or something?

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    If it was really nice, there's a good chance that everyone was up the river. There are relatively few locals that don't have a boat, and most of their free time and weekends are spent getting drunk and fooling about on the river.

    But that's strange, there should be plenty of people around in July.

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  • BoutrosBoutros Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Boutros wrote: »
    This dude is totally wrong, FYI. Fairbanks is a frigid shithole (I lived there for 5 years) and Anchorage is awesome. There is less crime, filth, and vagrants than he would lead you to believe (though there are a lot of vagrants, but nothing like Seattle or some other places). A lot of people hate Anchorage because they came up here for some fucking wilderness experience and they don't think that Anchorage is part of the "real alaska" or some shit. But from the perspective of someone who grew up here and whose parents came here for jobs not wilderness, I think Anchorage is the best place in Alaska to live. Also Anchorage is right in the middle of the awesome Chugach mountains, I can get in my car right now and in like 30 minutes I could be looking at fresh bear shit.

    Also Anchorage has the best weather, cheapest prices for everything except real estate, and the most job opportunities of anywhere in the state.
    Disclaimer: this is all personal experience, your mileage and that of others may vary.

    Yeah I read that part. I was trying to give the OP a different and better perspective so he didn't get the wrong idea about Anchorage. And Fairbanks. Because Fairbanks sucks.

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  • StephidabefidaStephidabefida Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I have lived in Alaska for almost 2 years now and I absolutely love it! I never thought I would end up here but I am really glad I did. I live just north of Anchorage so most of what I have is based off that area. I don't have a lot of experience here but here is my advice.


    1) Check out www.helpwantedalaska.com and www.adn.com. ADN is the Anchorage newspaper and might have some stuff.

    2) I think that prices here are really high, but I don't know what kind of priced you pay for stuff so it may not seem so bad. The food prices are really high compared to what I was used to, but I know gas is a bit cheaper than it is in the lower 48. Again, don't know what prices are like in Canada. And hey, no sales tax!

    3) I drive a Hyundai Elantra, and have never had a problem with the roads. I do mostly stick to main roads though. Even if you don't get AWD, you could always get studded tires.

    4) Well, I was in the car, but I have come across 2 bears in town. Not sure on this one. If you plan on going out into the wild a lot I don't think it would be a terrible idea to have something. On hikes and stuff we just usually bring bear mace.

    5) I would finish your degree, but when some jobs say degree preferred sometimes they will accept college credit as long as you have experience in the field.

    Hope this helps!

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