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it looks like there might be a battle in afghanistan tonight
A platoon or so NATO or US troops could beat 500 Taliban fighters with few difficulties. Maybe that's unrealistic, but you get the point. They're nothing to worry about in a situation like this.
The problem with the situation in Afghanistan is that while NATO or US troops can squash the Taliban in conventional warfare time and time again, we don't have the resources for building a state (infrastructure, schools, hospitals, jobs) and enough combat troops to secure the entire country.
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edited June 2008
Time to kill us some ayrahbs....to the tune of the Valkyries.
I feel bad that we kinda put Canada on point there.
2 to 1 odds on we end up pulling out of Iraq early because Afghanistan turns completely to shit.
Afghanistan has been completely shit for a long time now. In a country the size of about New England, we've got what, 15,000 US troops? Maybe 10,000 NATO troops? I'm not sure about the total numbers, but I don't see them exceeding thirty or fourty thousand, which is a third or a fourth of what we have in Iraq. And don't forget that the infrastructure of Afghanistan is worse than Iraq, the people are poorer, the government is even more inefficient, and there's no oil money starting to come into the picture. One could also argue the Afghani military is lesser than the Iraqi one.
I read something maybe six months ago about how much of the "sniper fire" and mortar fire that consisted of much of combat in Afghanistan from maybe 2003 to 2006 was just ordinary Afghanis, given a rifle and told "shoot over there a little and book it, oh, and here's a half a dollar." I don't remember if the source was accurate but it basically showed how down on their luck the Taliban was. Now we hear about them pulling off crazy prison breakouts. Granted the Afghani military is about as efficient as a bunch of kindergartners with spoons for weapons.
like, if they all split up into tiny groups and wrecked havoc across the whole country doin' their insurgent thang yeah they could accomplish something
I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe, and from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip-malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moments lost in time; gone like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die.
well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago
it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters
"Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.
well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago
it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters
"Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.
And remember even if the Coalition has like, a company in town, they've also got enough air power on hand for support to destroy an entire armored division, and the Taliban fighters don't have any AA capabilities.
It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.
well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago
it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters
"Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.
95% chance they won't, I think.
But the point isn't about whether they win or lose battles, it's the fact that they are still fighting six years later.
And remember even if the Coalition has like, a company in town, they've also got enough air power on hand for support to destroy an entire armored division, and the Taliban fighters don't have any AA capabilities.
It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.
Except they probably still have quite a few stingers from the Russian invasion, and jet aircraft trying to shoot or bomb infantry isn't really very effective, except for the psychological factor.
I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all
And we would root for him
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited June 2008
Man, I can't believe after 6 years of fighting and not being supplied by the Americans since Russia pulled out that they have that many stingers around to use.
well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago
it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters
"Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.
95% chance they won't, I think.
But the point isn't about whether they win or lose battles, it's the fact that they are still fighting six years later.
And remember even if the Coalition has like, a company in town, they've also got enough air power on hand for support to destroy an entire armored division, and the Taliban fighters don't have any AA capabilities.
It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.
Except they probably still have quite a few stingers from the Russian invasion, and jet aircraft trying to shoot or bomb infantry isn't really very effective, except for the psychological factor.
The stingers are only so useful, though. They shot down Russian helicopters nearly thirty years ago, and some MiGs, but modern US aircraft? Ehhh. Not to mention that those stingers are old themselves. I will admit that they do have some. Just not enough to null the fact that they will get hammered by coalition airpower hard.
And I completely agree with your first point. Earlier I stated that the reason why Afghanistan is not progressing is because the Coalition doesn't have enough troops to secure the country and because of that lack of control there's very little "nation building" outside of the military.
I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all
thats stupid nothing like that could ever happen
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I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all
thats stupid nothing like that could ever happen
He's right.
The only time Black Sabath would play then is during the previews and at the end of the "documentry".
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Battles are playing in Afghanistan?
Well I hope their post-rock wank-fest music brings a smile to some Afghani faces.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
2 to 1 odds on we end up pulling out of Iraq early because Afghanistan turns completely to shit.
probably something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5Yd7_lLNo&feature=related
The problem with the situation in Afghanistan is that while NATO or US troops can squash the Taliban in conventional warfare time and time again, we don't have the resources for building a state (infrastructure, schools, hospitals, jobs) and enough combat troops to secure the entire country.
get some rocket infrantry down there
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Canada is like your buddy that comes to help out against some bullies; only to be ditched and left to deal with shit he didn't even start.
I don't think the odds of an entire country to just turn into shit is that likely.
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Afghanistan has been completely shit for a long time now. In a country the size of about New England, we've got what, 15,000 US troops? Maybe 10,000 NATO troops? I'm not sure about the total numbers, but I don't see them exceeding thirty or fourty thousand, which is a third or a fourth of what we have in Iraq. And don't forget that the infrastructure of Afghanistan is worse than Iraq, the people are poorer, the government is even more inefficient, and there's no oil money starting to come into the picture. One could also argue the Afghani military is lesser than the Iraqi one.
ac-130's are completely insane
Fuck that man, go to the old school days.
Mine some jewels and slowly stretch out a line of Tesla coils and roast everyone.
Satans..... hints.....
it's still under investigation, but it wasn't nato troops stationed at the prison mainly
there was a suicide bomb and rpg fire to blow open the gates and they basically freed all the prisoners
almost half of the prison were captured taliban insurgents
i mean yeah they broke into a prison, they clearly aren't stupid
but now that the coalition is aware of them what are they gonna do
See, this is why we need those collars around each prisoner that are wired with an explosive and a proximity sensor to another prisoner.
If the two get too far apart both the collars blow their brains out.
Satans..... hints.....
Jesus christ, that was badass and utterly horrifying.
it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters
but massing up in one place
what the heck
"Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.
95% chance they won't, I think.
that is true
doesn't mean they won't try though
"fuck you all terrorist and fuck Mr Ben Laden with you....
we gonna fuck you all ..and we will bearied you alive "
It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.
ac-130s are badass
it's basically like that one level in Call of Duty 4, except real life
Someone's clearly dropping the ball here.
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But the point isn't about whether they win or lose battles, it's the fact that they are still fighting six years later.
Except they probably still have quite a few stingers from the Russian invasion, and jet aircraft trying to shoot or bomb infantry isn't really very effective, except for the psychological factor.
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And we would root for him
Satans..... hints.....
The stingers are only so useful, though. They shot down Russian helicopters nearly thirty years ago, and some MiGs, but modern US aircraft? Ehhh. Not to mention that those stingers are old themselves. I will admit that they do have some. Just not enough to null the fact that they will get hammered by coalition airpower hard.
And I completely agree with your first point. Earlier I stated that the reason why Afghanistan is not progressing is because the Coalition doesn't have enough troops to secure the country and because of that lack of control there's very little "nation building" outside of the military.
thats stupid nothing like that could ever happen
He's right.
The only time Black Sabath would play then is during the previews and at the end of the "documentry".
Satans..... hints.....