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it looks like there might be a battle in afghanistan tonight

RanxRanx Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Social Entropy++
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/500_Taliban_mass_near_Kandahar_city_06162008.html

a couple days ago, the taliban broke into the biggest prison and afghanistan and freed around 1000 prisoners

now apparently around 500 taliban fighters are massing near kandahar, and the coalition forces are gearing up for a confrontation

it's going to be interesting to see how the next 24 hours unfold

Ranx on
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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2008
    SWEET!

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2008
    Wait no that's bad

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    What's that?

    Battles are playing in Afghanistan?

    Well I hope their post-rock wank-fest music brings a smile to some Afghani faces.

    #pipe on
  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    afghanistan is basically shaping up as canada's mini-iraq

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I feel bad that we kinda put Canada on point there.

    2 to 1 odds on we end up pulling out of Iraq early because Afghanistan turns completely to shit.

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  • ZeroFillZeroFill Feeling much better. A nice, green leaf.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    it's going to be interesting to see how the next 24 hours unfold

    probably something like this


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5Yd7_lLNo&feature=related

    ZeroFill on
  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    A platoon or so NATO or US troops could beat 500 Taliban fighters with few difficulties. Maybe that's unrealistic, but you get the point. They're nothing to worry about in a situation like this.

    The problem with the situation in Afghanistan is that while NATO or US troops can squash the Taliban in conventional warfare time and time again, we don't have the resources for building a state (infrastructure, schools, hospitals, jobs) and enough combat troops to secure the entire country.

    Ol' Sparky on
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Time to kill us some ayrahbs....to the tune of the Valkyries.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    dammit we need to build some barracks and a power station


    get some rocket infrantry down there


    fuuuck where's the tiberium

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I predict a man wielding a battleaxe while blaring AC/DC will hang from a chopper as it swoops down, pull out his machinegun and kill them all

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  • RinderRinder Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    sarukun wrote: »
    I feel bad that we kinda put Canada on point there.

    2 to 1 odds on we end up pulling out of Iraq early because Afghanistan turns completely to shit.

    Canada is like your buddy that comes to help out against some bullies; only to be ditched and left to deal with shit he didn't even start.

    Rinder on
  • LawlzorLawlzor Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    sarukun wrote: »
    I feel bad that we kinda put Canada on point there.

    2 to 1 odds on we end up pulling out of Iraq early because Afghanistan turns completely to shit.

    I don't think the odds of an entire country to just turn into shit is that likely.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    They broke into a prison? Crazy. What sort of troops were stationed there?

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    sarukun wrote: »
    I feel bad that we kinda put Canada on point there.

    2 to 1 odds on we end up pulling out of Iraq early because Afghanistan turns completely to shit.

    Afghanistan has been completely shit for a long time now. In a country the size of about New England, we've got what, 15,000 US troops? Maybe 10,000 NATO troops? I'm not sure about the total numbers, but I don't see them exceeding thirty or fourty thousand, which is a third or a fourth of what we have in Iraq. And don't forget that the infrastructure of Afghanistan is worse than Iraq, the people are poorer, the government is even more inefficient, and there's no oil money starting to come into the picture. One could also argue the Afghani military is lesser than the Iraqi one.

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ZeroFill wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    it's going to be interesting to see how the next 24 hours unfold

    probably something like this


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5Yd7_lLNo&feature=related

    ac-130's are completely insane

    Ranx on
  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    dammit we need to build some barracks and a power station


    get some rocket infrantry down there


    fuuuck where's the tiberium

    Fuck that man, go to the old school days.

    Mine some jewels and slowly stretch out a line of Tesla coils and roast everyone.

    Blake T on
  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As7 wrote: »
    They broke into a prison? Crazy. What sort of troops were stationed there?

    it's still under investigation, but it wasn't nato troops stationed at the prison mainly

    there was a suicide bomb and rpg fire to blow open the gates and they basically freed all the prisoners

    almost half of the prison were captured taliban insurgents

    Ranx on
  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    man what are 500 doods with AKs gonna do

    i mean yeah they broke into a prison, they clearly aren't stupid

    but now that the coalition is aware of them what are they gonna do

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    As7 wrote: »
    They broke into a prison? Crazy. What sort of troops were stationed there?

    it's still under investigation, but it wasn't nato troops stationed at the prison mainly

    there was a suicide bomb and rpg fire to blow open the gates and they basically freed all the prisoners

    almost half of the prison were captured taliban insurgents

    See, this is why we need those collars around each prisoner that are wired with an explosive and a proximity sensor to another prisoner.

    If the two get too far apart both the collars blow their brains out.

    Blake T on
  • B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    ZeroFill wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    it's going to be interesting to see how the next 24 hours unfold

    probably something like this


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5Yd7_lLNo&feature=related

    ac-130's are completely insane

    Jesus christ, that was badass and utterly horrifying.

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago

    it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters

    Ranx on
  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Go us.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I read something maybe six months ago about how much of the "sniper fire" and mortar fire that consisted of much of combat in Afghanistan from maybe 2003 to 2006 was just ordinary Afghanis, given a rifle and told "shoot over there a little and book it, oh, and here's a half a dollar." I don't remember if the source was accurate but it basically showed how down on their luck the Taliban was. Now we hear about them pulling off crazy prison breakouts. Granted the Afghani military is about as efficient as a bunch of kindergartners with spoons for weapons.

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  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    like, if they all split up into tiny groups and wrecked havoc across the whole country doin' their insurgent thang yeah they could accomplish something

    but massing up in one place

    what the heck

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  • Some_JerkSome_Jerk Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago

    it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters

    "Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.

    95% chance they won't, I think.

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago

    it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters

    "Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.

    95% chance they won't, I think.

    that is true

    doesn't mean they won't try though

    Ranx on
  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago

    it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters
    yeah except the coalition is defending the city this time with superior numbers and firepower

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ZeroFill wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    it's going to be interesting to see how the next 24 hours unfold

    probably something like this


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5Yd7_lLNo&feature=related

    "fuck you all terrorist and fuck Mr Ben Laden with you....
    we gonna fuck you all ..and we will bearied you alive ;) "

    noobert on
  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    And remember even if the Coalition has like, a company in town, they've also got enough air power on hand for support to destroy an entire armored division, and the Taliban fighters don't have any AA capabilities.

    It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    honestly

    ac-130s are badass

    it's basically like that one level in Call of Duty 4, except real life

    Ranx on
  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Why the hell aren't our siege tanks already in siege mode?

    Someone's clearly dropping the ball here.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Why the hell aren't our siege tanks already in siege mode?

    Someone's clearly dropping the ball here.

    O O O O O O O O O

    A A A A A A A A A A A

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago

    it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters

    "Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.

    95% chance they won't, I think.

    But the point isn't about whether they win or lose battles, it's the fact that they are still fighting six years later.


    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    And remember even if the Coalition has like, a company in town, they've also got enough air power on hand for support to destroy an entire armored division, and the Taliban fighters don't have any AA capabilities.

    It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.

    Except they probably still have quite a few stingers from the Russian invasion, and jet aircraft trying to shoot or bomb infantry isn't really very effective, except for the psychological factor.

    L|ama on
  • ZeroFillZeroFill Feeling much better. A nice, green leaf.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    someone didn't watch the video

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  • B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Some_Jerk wrote: »
    I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all

    And we would root for him

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Man, I can't believe after 6 years of fighting and not being supplied by the Americans since Russia pulled out that they have that many stingers around to use.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    L|ama wrote: »
    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    well it's possible they are going to try and assault kandahar, city they were routed form only 6 months or so ago

    it was tough fighting getting them out, and that was only about 300 fighters

    "Tough fighting" these days by our standards means maybe 20 Coalition deaths? Maybe at worst 5 times as many casualties? Now I know for the guys doing the fighting, its got to be bad, but on a strategic scale, the Taliban will never be able to conventionally retake anything of strategic value of the country.

    95% chance they won't, I think.

    But the point isn't about whether they win or lose battles, it's the fact that they are still fighting six years later.


    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    And remember even if the Coalition has like, a company in town, they've also got enough air power on hand for support to destroy an entire armored division, and the Taliban fighters don't have any AA capabilities.

    It's like they're playing rock-paper-scissors without the rock and scissors.

    Except they probably still have quite a few stingers from the Russian invasion, and jet aircraft trying to shoot or bomb infantry isn't really very effective, except for the psychological factor.

    The stingers are only so useful, though. They shot down Russian helicopters nearly thirty years ago, and some MiGs, but modern US aircraft? Ehhh. Not to mention that those stingers are old themselves. I will admit that they do have some. Just not enough to null the fact that they will get hammered by coalition airpower hard.

    And I completely agree with your first point. Earlier I stated that the reason why Afghanistan is not progressing is because the Coalition doesn't have enough troops to secure the country and because of that lack of control there's very little "nation building" outside of the military.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Some_Jerk wrote: »
    I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all

    thats stupid nothing like that could ever happen

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Some_Jerk wrote: »
    I predict a man covered in makeshift iron armor plating will burst out of a cave while blaring Black Sabbath, firing a flamethrower, then pull out his machinegun and kill them all

    thats stupid nothing like that could ever happen

    He's right.

    The only time Black Sabath would play then is during the previews and at the end of the "documentry".

    Blake T on
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