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Power consumption of a PC in sleep mode?

The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupinesIrvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
Simple question prefaced with a short story.
I leave on my computer 24/7, when I'm not home it automatically goes into sleep mode where it stays and the monitor sleeps as well. I have a 650watt power supply and 3 case fans, 2 of them are 250mm ones with knobs that let me turn them up down or even off. And the monitor is a 22 inch LCD.

Now I work in the tech industry and always need instant access to my computer, for some reason it can take upwards of minutes before it turns on (not start up, and I believe that it has something to do with the powersupply) from an off state, and I always check it first thing in the morning minutes before I go to work, and immediately upon returning home from work. I also remote connect to my PC from time to time at work to get at important work documents that I happen to have been working on at home and whatnot. I also leave it on for important messages that might be sent via IM so that I don't miss them. I can't just sign into my IM at work because I have a work IM and a home IM.

So, you can understand that it is important that I keep my PC on. Now my mother has this idea that my PC in sleep mode is taking up extravagant amounts of electricity and we would save a bundle if I had it off when I was at work. My question is if anybody knows roughly what a sleeping PC with the basic specs I gave (I can give more if needed) consumes power/money wise in a month so that I can get an idea. Also would turning the monitor, printer, speakers, and turning down the fans significantly help?

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'm not too sure how much power your computer uses exactly, but it shouldn't be very much. If I'm not mistaken, when a system's in sleep/standby, the only component which still has power is the RAM. I think some other peripherals get power too, since when my laptop's in sleep, I can just press any key on the keyboard and it'll wake up. You could check things in Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows) to see if there's a "Allow this device to wake the computer" checkbox to unselect, though.

    I'd turn off everything except the computer itself (monitor, etc.), but that's just me.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ayulin wrote: »
    I'm not too sure how much power your computer uses exactly, but it shouldn't be very much. If I'm not mistaken, when a system's in sleep/standby, the only component which still has power is the RAM. I think some other peripherals get power too, since when my laptop's in sleep, I can just press any key on the keyboard and it'll wake up. You could check things in Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows) to see if there's a "Allow this device to wake the computer" checkbox to unselect, though.

    I'd turn off everything except the computer itself (monitor, etc.), but that's just me.
    When it's in sleep The fans are still spinning so I'd say it's more than just the ram.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ayulin wrote: »
    I'm not too sure how much power your computer uses exactly, but it shouldn't be very much. If I'm not mistaken, when a system's in sleep/standby, the only component which still has power is the RAM. I think some other peripherals get power too, since when my laptop's in sleep, I can just press any key on the keyboard and it'll wake up. You could check things in Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows) to see if there's a "Allow this device to wake the computer" checkbox to unselect, though.

    I'd turn off everything except the computer itself (monitor, etc.), but that's just me.
    When it's in sleep The fans are still spinning so I'd say it's more than just the ram.

    He's confusing sleep with hibernate.

    Technically speaking, hibernate should consume no power, while sleep can still use a significant amount. I think it's dependent on your hardware as to how much power you'll use while in sleep mode.

    Does your hardware support a hibernate mode? It's pretty slick, mine can go from fully hibernated to login screen in a matter of ~3 seconds.

    EDIT: You'd definitely see some good power savings by turning your peripherals (monitor, speaker, etc) off.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Ayulin wrote: »
    I'm not too sure how much power your computer uses exactly, but it shouldn't be very much. If I'm not mistaken, when a system's in sleep/standby, the only component which still has power is the RAM. I think some other peripherals get power too, since when my laptop's in sleep, I can just press any key on the keyboard and it'll wake up. You could check things in Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows) to see if there's a "Allow this device to wake the computer" checkbox to unselect, though.

    I'd turn off everything except the computer itself (monitor, etc.), but that's just me.
    When it's in sleep The fans are still spinning so I'd say it's more than just the ram.

    He's confusing sleep with hibernate.

    Technically speaking, hibernate should consume no power, while sleep can still use a significant amount. I think it's dependent on your hardware as to how much power you'll use while in sleep mode.

    Does your hardware support a hibernate mode? It's pretty slick, mine can go from fully hibernated to login screen in a matter of ~3 seconds.

    EDIT: You'd definitely see some good power savings by turning your peripherals (monitor, speaker, etc) off.
    I'm running Vista and I see only sleep under the settings no hibernate.

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hmm, just quickly looked it up again on Wiki; was referring to the S3 State here.

    Did a quick search, and came across a guide that might be useful (the "How do I enable this S3 Sleep State" section, at least. The configuration for a always-on computer bit looks like it's for if you want the system to be able to wake from LAN.)

    EDIT: It might help to link the actual thing.
    2nd EDIT: Just remembered; you can check which sleep state your computer can currently support by opening up a command line, and running powercfg -a

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I think I'll start with shutting everything short of the actual tower off and see how that helps. If it doesn't I'll try that S3 stuff.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    At 10c/kW, a pc that draws 180 watts costs about $13.33 a month to leave on and running 24/7. My pc (will play crysis on very high hack with 50-60fps@1440), printer, speakers, monitor, peripherals (mouse keyboard, g25, logitech camera), ups, and a 14" tv consume about 230 watts while playing a game, or about 180 watts at idle with everything on.

    Your power supply is a switching power supply. It never draws 650 watts from the wall, unless it is only 50% efficient. If you really want to know what it costs, invest 20$ into a kill-o-watt or other consumer grade power meter to figure out what you are consuming each month. I can pretty much guarantee your fridge draws more power than your computer does in 24 hours.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    turning your PC off when you're not using it will make a difference. it is not the most power hungry appliance in the house, but it will make a difference. Say it uses 180 watts when powered on. that's the same as leaving 60W light bulbs on 24/7. While they will not draw large amounts of power, leaving them on 24/7 will definitely make a difference.

    I work in the tech industry too, but I've taken to shutting down my machine when I'm not home. Between myself and my dad making a conscious decision to do this, the power bill at our house has gone down an average of $40/month.

    There are ways around the things you've mentioned as reasons why you keep it on. For documents, keep them on a thumb drive or upload them to a file storage space(I have a paid web host I use, or you could use a free service like Windows Live Skydrive). For people IM'ing you, get them to send an e-mail. If things are truly that important, I would never trust IM anyway. "Important" messages should always come through e-mail, because(in general), e-mail is a bit slower, but more reliable(again, in general).

    There are also other things to do as well. When you get up from the computer, just turn the monitor off. I do that all the time. That will save power. Turn off speakers when you don't need them, same with printers. Dont' leave USB devices plugged in when you don't need them. Those little things might not seem like much, but they do all add up, especially the monitor.

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  • El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    stigweard wrote: »
    I can pretty much guarantee your fridge draws more power than your computer does in 24 hours.


    You put more money in your gas tank in a week than your computer will suck up in electricity in a month. Unless money really is THAT tight, I wouldn't say it was a factor in your monthly budget. I grew up with an electricity/heat miser for a Dad, and so I can relate. But the bottom line is, electricity is pretty cheap compared to lots of other monthly utilities depending on where you live. I can leave my computer on 24/7 and cool my apartment with 3 air conditioners, and it's still less than what I pay for internet or cable. Leaving lights on in a room uses more electricity than your computer (if you haven't yet switched to CFLs).

    Ninja edit: If your work requires you to leave your computer on, it's part of the cost of doing business, same as paying for gas to get to work.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    An "idle" computer and a computer in any state of standby are very different.

    Numbers vary too much to be accurately guessed without a full list of computer specs; the best way is to take the suggestion above of getting a $20 Kill-A-Watt or something similar and checking yourself.

    That said, if you need instant access to IM and simple programs, how about a WiFi-enabled PDA or smartphone?

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  • Monkey Ball WarriorMonkey Ball Warrior A collection of mediocre hats Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    My computer barely pulls 2 watts in full S3 Standby.

    But it takes a while for USB to come back on.

    Also, CPU frequency/voltage scaling really helps. I personally use CrystalCPUID for that, but that's only because I overclock. Vista has it built in, if you are not overclocking. My computer goes from 100W@3Ghz to 75W@1Ghz (both idle).

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I thank you guys for all the advice I'm going to go a month seeing if shutting everything off short of the tower and turning down the fans on the tower will appease her.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I thank you guys for all the advice I'm going to go a month seeing if shutting everything off short of the tower and turning down the fans on the tower will appease her.

    You weren't doing this before? Well shit son, that will make a difference. Why keep a printer on 24/7 if you don't print 24/7. That's just waste. Same with the monitor.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    wunderbar wrote: »
    I thank you guys for all the advice I'm going to go a month seeing if shutting everything off short of the tower and turning down the fans on the tower will appease her.

    You weren't doing this before? Well shit son, that will make a difference. Why keep a printer on 24/7 if you don't print 24/7. That's just waste. Same with the monitor.
    Hindsight. And just carelessness on my part, I always thought well if the monitor goes into sleep mode why turn it off, hell if I actually thought about that for even a moment I would have gone DUH!..

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