Am I on the right track here? Do you guys think this is a good neglected game? I've got a finished list in my head but I'm starting to wonder if games like Crystalis and Zanac really count as neglected. I mean how many people here that played NES games in the 80's didn't have Crystalis. Even though it didn't seem hugely successful at the time it also seems like everyone loves it!
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Examples include:
Cobra Triangle
Kid Icarus
Cybernoid
Rush 'n Attack
Rygar
Gumshoe
Hell, I could probably list fifty. That's a little scary.
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Maybe as in not talked about enough. I instinctively would put Kid Icarus and Cobra Triangle in different categories. I think people loved Kid Icarus back then and they still love it now but Cobra Triangle, I feel like it wasn't that respected back then and even now people are surprised to hear that it's a Rare game.
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Ha! I really wish I were! If there were a way to work on it (game, web comic, refrigeration) that made me totally excited about the concept than I would! It's funny though I'll still get comments about CO (like yours) that are encouraging (maybe in jest but still good natured) and then also complete hate! Obviously people will have differing views but to hate me for it? To me it seems like trivial enough of a thing to either like of be indifferent to it. I didn't think it would have the ability to offend anyone! : P
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I agree the thread may seem iffy but it's more a question of what an underrated or neglected game might be. I think the NES was pretty well suited to having neglected games just due to the gaming atmosphere at the time and Nintendo's particular marketing choices but when you start making a Top Ten list of them... are you moving out of the realm of neglected? I'll use the Crystalis example again. If everyone loved it why didn't it do well or seem to make a huge impact when it was released?
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I would say a thread that's purpose is, in part, to introduce good games that ought to be checked out is a thread worth having.
That said, here's a good game that ought to be checked out...
Guardian Legend - Released by Broderbund
You are the Guardian Legend, a female cyborg who can turn into a spaceship.
The gameplay mixes verticle shoot 'em up sequences with a zelda-like overworld as you try to destroy a hostile planet/spaceship before it arrives to Earth. The shoot em up sequences are pretty hard by non-bullet hell standards, and the action-adventure map is huge.
Along the way you'll collect a pretty wide assortment of weapons, including frag grenades and a double-bladed lightsaber. Really.
And it's got some pretty bitching music to boot.
1) The games you're posting are fairly well known. For those of us with nostalgia for the NES, we've played most of those games already.
2) The games aren't really that good. I remember Spy vs. Spy as sucking pretty hard. Pro Wrestling was shallow. Zaniac was just plain dissapointing compared to its graphically superior brethern.
3) This retro-review stuff has been done to death. Honestly, AVN reviews came about because people are sick of "normal" reviews. And he remain popular largely because of how much creativity and work goes into each and every review (let's face it, he'd rather be making movies).
Neglected games is a cool idea, but show us really awesome games that we, and by this I mean people that actually grew up with the NES, never played. Prototypes, fan-made games, games with extremely limited production runs etc. And when you actually shoot the video, make sure that you make something that is interesting, unique and memorable. As it stands, I don't think your videos really leave much of an impression at all on the viewers.
Hydlide?
This game is so great.
Also, I can't remember the name, but it had the word 'Tengen' printed on the cartridge and you were some kind of spy perhaps that .... shot people.
a lot.
great game too.
edit: the game was called Rolling Thunder.
so good.
So did you make this YouTube video in the original post?
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That sounds like an interesting game. Was it in an odd looking cartridge form? Some of the bootlegs had hideously buggy code. Master fu and drunken wu is a perfect example of one of the worse nes games ever.
There is one game I rarely hear people talk about. Zombie nation. Some people hate this game but I think its mis-understood. A disembodied samurai head goes after a legendary sword by spitting bullets and saving stick figures. The sound is not so good and the music kinda sucks but its fun up until the 2nd boss.
That game was awesome. You could combine different power-ups to create types of ammo. But when I talk to people about NES games, not a lot of people have heard of it. Easily on of my favorite games of the time.
Legend of Kage is another one. Jumping from trees and hacking up ninjas in mid air, that game was really fun.
Those were my favorite NES games.
+1 for North and South. Absolutely loved that game, I still play it on my Nesticle.
I think Spy vs. Spy could be brought back in a very dynamic way if they followed the same formula as the first for the NES. It'd be the ultimate vs. mode kind of game. But anyway.
This thread is a poll thread because of the "top ten" bit. Then again, if that video is any indiction, I think the OP intends to show us some sort of countdown from an actual Top Ten Neglected list (which isn't a poll thread at all). And if that isn't the case, removing the "top ten" bit from this thread means we can just discuss them openly. There are neglected games out there.
I'd say to be neglected it would have to a) not have any well known modern sequels or remakes and b) not be constantly recognized for whatever reason.
LIZ: Different.
VOICE-OVER: It's September 24th, I'm Liz Parker and five days ago I died. But then the really amazing thing happened. I came to life.
Holy shit. That was the hardest game ever. Like 50 levels and you had only 2 lives and 2 continues to do it. One bullet killed you, or two contact hits with enemies did you in too. Also there was an obscene amount of really difficult platforming, and your jumps were limited to (a) a pathetic sort of standing-still crouch jkump (b) a superman-style leap straight into the air with no forward motion (c) a pitfall-style forward jump that was exactly the same every time.
Fuck that game. It was impossible to beat, especially when you got to enemies that took 4 hits to kill and would duck and jump and almost always hit you before you hit them.
Now the Goonies II, that I can get behind. Fun as hell although it basically gave you zero clues as to what the fuck you were doing and how you needed to do it. But it was pretty creative and interesting.
Iron Tank was a monster and difficult as hell. I remember playing that game in turn with my cousin when we were kids (when we weren't playing RBI Baseball or the like).
A trio of other titles that I think should be mentioned are The Battle of Olympus (another Borderbund title), Mission Impossible and The Lone Ranger. TBoO was pretty much a Zelda 2 clone using Greek Mythology and it was enjoyable as hell (though I think I still liked Guardian Legend more). Mission Impossible was ungodly hard, but mixed up the action really well with a top-down game where you controlled one of three specialists (one was a weapons guy, another was tech/explosives, the last was disguises), and some of the stages mixed it up with a really cool boat level and a snowmobile level. The Lone Ranger was a fusion of RPG and Shooter (including bits that used the light gun) that came out near the end of the NES's lifespan.
i disagree so hard with this. zanac is an all time classic shmup.
I love those games. And they are good. And fun. And hard.
Yes yes yes.
The games you're listing may be 'obscure' to casual gamers, but anybody with any kind of gaming background knows Spy Vs Spy.
Oh hell yes. There's nothing quite like beating a giant squid to death with a yo-yo.
Faxanadu, yeah, that definitely is a great game. I really wonder why it never became a franchise!
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That's what it was, thank you.
I had bought both of them for NES a couple years back and played them and they were still just as good as they were 10+ years ago.
Nostalgia...
Oh! I really like the idea of fan-made games and prototypes. That's definitely interesting. If I had more time I would do that. It might take a long, long, long time to really come up with the experience to make that judgement though is the only issue I see with that.
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Cybernoid should stay neglected as in it-should-never-be-played-by-anyone.
Oh yeah, I did make the video. Is that a problem? I can put a random YouTube video with a random neglected game if that's a problem. I just figured I put something up that I enjoyed making that I thought people here would like. Not some AVGN ripoff. : )
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See? That's a good question! I haven't found the sales numbers of NES games so I'm basically going by games that people don't talk about much or had mounds of sequels but that I still really enjoyed. Super Dodgeball was definitely a great game. Did it sell well? I've no idea! : )
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