A Costume Thread! Or: Posthumus Michael Turner Hate
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sportzboytjwsqueeeeeezzeeeesome more tax breaks outRegistered Userregular
edited July 2008
I think I'm one of the few people on here who doesn't hate Turner. I mean, I'm not a huge fan, but I don't mind his stuff in limited doses. Also, I enjoyed Land's porn tracings on that one series with the archer lady.
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That is bullshit. It doesn't matter if Land drew well in the past, his art for the past couple of years has been offensive on a couple of levels. Turner at least had an idea of how to compose an image, even if his grasp on human anatomy was pretty bad.
If Turner wasn't so ubiquitous, I don't think he would've garnered the hate that he did.
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edited July 2008
Of the two, I enjoyed Land's "Indy" (whatever you want to call it) work more, and Turner's "Mainstream" (DC/Marvel) stuff better. That's just me though.
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I much preferred her outfit with the body-armour. I think that was when she was going by Warbid? I dunno, it just seemed refreshingly sensible and practical.
I also really liked Captain Britain's costume from at the end of the Excalibur: Sword of Power miniseries, but it's apparently impossible to find a picture of that.
Hm. A gay voodoo magician could be an interesting character...
There's always the Houngan from the Brotherhood of Evil. I don't think they ever established the character as gay, but that costume is pretty good circumstantial evidence.
Hm. A gay voodoo magician could be an interesting character...
There's always the Houngan from the Brotherhood of Evil. I don't think they ever established the character as gay, but that costume is pretty good circumstantial evidence.
Yeah, that's, um... wow.
Since this is a costume thread, who wants to be the first to redesign a character using heromachine or something similar? Or maybe use it to make a costume for themselves?
Have you guys ever seen Ruby Rocket? She makes all her own costumes, I think she won something from Marvel with her Phoenix costume (I mean won something other than my drool) -
I much preferred her outfit with the body-armour. I think that was when she was going by Warbid? I dunno, it just seemed refreshingly sensible and practical.
It's a good costume. But since I have no confidence in her being a strong character, fuck it. Bring on the cheesecake.
I suppose I just really enjoy the hell out of that 50's serial feel.
Adam Strange fucking rules.
I enjoy both, but I prefer the old to the new since the new one has that sort of flotation device thing goin' on.
Captain Comet
Old one is best. His new costume is okay, I suppose, since it doesn't exactly deviate from the original.
Per Degaton
A time-traveling Nazi despot sporting a letterman's jacket. I'm not a big fan of monogramming my clothes but that doesn't keep him from being rad as fuck.
Lobster Johnson
I remember the first time I saw him in Hellboy and thinking how he was the fucking epitome of rad. He still is. A while back Del Toro wanted Bruce Campbell to play him in an eventual Hellboy sequel, but as amazing as that is to me it will likely never happen.
Since this is a costume thread, who wants to be the first to redesign a character using heromachine or something similar? Or maybe use it to make a costume for themselves?
I do a lot of this in between short stints of artistic productivity. I did a little mucking about with Booster Gold and Beetle's costumes recently.
A lot of those are crappy, but I like the Booster torso in the upper right. It's supposed to play into his original intention to be called "Goldstar." I may end up doing a full illustration. Oh, and here's an old Iron Man redesign I did for Project Rooftop that was rightfully rejected.
Since we're doing that, I wonder what you guys have to say about this that I did:
It is a design for an "estonian hero" over at the cbr forums:
Here's the lenghty character info for anyone that cares to look:
Cultural and Historical Background Estonia is located west of Russia and south of Finland. For the majority of the twentieth century, the area was under either Nazi or Soviet rule. In designing a truly "Estonian" hero, I thought it'd be best if I went with a character with a strong sense of national pride, being openly opposed to foreign control.
Early Childhood
The character that I came up with, Paavo Suvari, was born in the late 1920s to a relatively poor Estonian woman that lived in the city of Narva on the border of Russia. His father died during a military excursion prior to Paavo's birth. Lacking a male role model, young Paavo was strongly attached to his mother, who would often entertain her son with traditional Estonian folk tales as well as overly exaggerated accounts of his father's life. Paavo took to one tale very heavily, that of the Kalevide, the national epic hero of Estonia.
The Epic
The tale of the Kalevide originated from the same oral tradition as the Finnish epic that Eliseu pulled his character from. The hero of the Finnish epic's name was Kaleva, a great King of the Eastern Baltic region that both Finland and Estonia are part of. In the Estonian version, Kaleva was simply called Kalev. The hero of the Estonian epic was the youngest son of Kalev, Sohni, later to be called Kalevipoeg or Kalevide, both meaning "son of Kalev". Much like Paavo, the Kalevide was born after his own father's death. The Kalevide was a fierce and intelligent warrior that was trained by a hedgehog to battle using stones and the thin edges of planks.
The Tragedy
On June 14th, 1940, Paavo's mother boarded a small transport plane in Tallinn, the capitol of Estonia. Paavo, in his preteen years, was still uncomfortable being away from his mother for an extended period of time. To soothe his fears, his mother told him that the spirit of Kalev would surely protect her, as the plane was named after him, Kaleva. Unfortunately, The Kaleva was shot down from its flight by two Soviet bombers in the first act of aggression towards Estonia from the Soviet Union. All nine passengers died. The full-scale occupation of Estonia by the Soviet Union occurred two days afterwards.
Upon hearing of his mother's death, coupled with the dramatic experience of being alone at such a young age in the capitol city during the invasion, Paavo vowed to spend the rest of his days fighting Soviet rule. Not trusting anyone, especially Soviet education and government officials, the next few years were spent homeless on the streets of Tallinn. It was during this time that Paavo began to obtain his physical prowess and fighting skills.
The Hero
As he got older, he started to break into the houses and offices of Soviet workers to steal food, money, clothing, and other goods. On one of his excursions he was spotted by a high-ranking soviet official that demanded to know who he was. Thinking back to the tragedy of his mother, Paavo's only answer was to say, "The Son of Kalev" before he escaped. After seeing the harsh way in which soviet soldiers would treat native Estonians, it did not take long for Paavo to decide to start fighting for more than his own survival. As a young man, Paavo designed a costume that would invoke a feeling a patriotism amongst his fellow Estonians, and began his single handed war against the Soviet Union.
The Costume
The one displayed in the image would be intended for winter use, especially in Eastern Estonia, where the climate is more harsh. He would have had a lighter weight outfit for warmer environments.
The colors chosen are those of the Estonian flag: blue, white, and black. The mask/helmet, cape, gloves, and boots are all made of a soft and pliable goat's leather stained blue with the use of cornflowers, the national flower of Estonia. The vest is a double-breasted design and sports an external belt, both of which are elements that would have been inspired by pictures of Paavo's father from his military days which would have been similar to this and this, both dated to the 1930s.
The area around his eyes would be rubbed over with a black substance, such as motor-oil, grease, or shoe-polish, to not only further his disguise, but also to absorb sunlight and reduce sun and snow-glare. The motif displayed by the dark areas around the eyes, along with the nose guard and orange crest on his mask are intended to resemble the look of the barn swallow, Estonia's national bird. This look is also enhanced by two slits in his cape that rise to roughly waist level. When leaping or squatting, this would cause his cape to separate at the ends resembling the feathers of a bird's tail.
The Satchel
The inside of the satchel would consist of complex pouches, flaps, and fastens to hold the contents in place. Those contents would vary depending on what goods he had previously pilfered from soviet workers, but would almost always include:
a length of rope, weighted on one end for climbing
The Character
He is a skilled self-taught combatant, but has no formal or worldly education (think more Wildcat, less Batman). He is more than competent, but by no means wins his fights flawlessly. He is very resourceful of his surroundings during combat, and would often play off the "fights with stones and planks" aspect of his namesake whenever he could. He has no secret identity, and works from a number of abandoned warehouses and factories across Estonia 24/7 to put as many kinks in the Soviet machine as possible. When not in uniform, he considers himself "undercover" researching for his mission.
He ages normally, and is active up through his sixties, with his last spotted appearance in uniform shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. However, as the years would pass, his lack of social interaction, as well as the frustration of being one man against the whole Soviet Union, would affect him mentally, making him quite eccentric. This, along with the fact that he would often go multiple continuous nights without sleep, completely absorbed by whatever anti-soviet project he was working on, would make him a little "street-crazy". (This aspect of the character, non-existent at first, would have increased along with his age, and in his later active years, he would be written like a mix between Adam West Batman and Frank Miller Batman.)
The Design
I made him short and stout in stature, maybe 5'6". His name, Paavo, even means "small or humble". I found this a fun spin on the character, as the original Kalevide and Kalev were both giants. He has light blue eyes, blonde hair, fair skin, wide facial features, and broad cheekbones: all genetic traits relative to the Eastern Baltic region. His costume is somewhat inspired by Paul Pope's Batman (Batman Year 100) as well as Bryan Hitch's World War II era Captain America (The Ultimates). If he were to be portrayed in film, my first choice for an actor would be Nick Nolte.
Oh, and Munch, excellent sketch sheet. I dig your drawings as always.
A lot of those are crappy, but I like the Booster torso in the upper right. It's supposed to play into his original intention to be called "Goldstar." I may end up doing a full illustration. Oh, and here's an old Iron Man redesign I did for Project Rooftop that was rightfully rejected.
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I imagine that's what Tony Stark's stand would look like if he was a character in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure. :P
And "Iron Man" fits perfectly into the whole "musical references for names" thing. I wonder what his powers would be?
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GonmunHe keeps kickin' me inthe dickRegistered Userregular
edited July 2008
I'm not sure if this would be grouped in with a costume but did anyone else like the look of AoA Iceman? I thought it was a cool take on the character. I really liked what they did with the face especially.
Pretty much all of the AoA X-men costumes were amazing, Sunfire and Iceman are very high on that list.
Shiro just looked badass with the plating.
I used to do table top rping with a couple of friends and had a character that turned to water. One of the friends was a pretty good artist so I asked him to try and do the face like Iceman's from AoA, even gave him the couple of issues that I had at the time with him in it but he never got it right. :x
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Case in point, Witchblade.
Without a blade or Wicked Witch hat, I'd be at a loss.
Course, if her name was Sparsely Armored Lass, that still wouldn't make the outfit any better.
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But that Logan hardly features a remarkable costume, gosh
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If Turner wasn't so ubiquitous, I don't think he would've garnered the hate that he did.
incorrect.
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haha yes!
first thing i thought when i saw that image was season 1 arena geared warrior.
and, of course, deadpool's best costume
Also, I can't remember. Did anyone mention Ms. Marvel? I think her costume is pretty cool in that it's not too flashy. I love the sash-thing.
I find the whole cape costume kind of cheesy.
Anyway, I also like Ms. Marvel's costume. Apparently Janet Pym designed it to replace Carol's awful red number not that long ago.
I also hate that Taskmaster costume.
This is such an awesome costume.
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Hm. A gay voodoo magician could be an interesting character...
I also really liked Captain Britain's costume from at the end of the Excalibur: Sword of Power miniseries, but it's apparently impossible to find a picture of that.
There's always the Houngan from the Brotherhood of Evil. I don't think they ever established the character as gay, but that costume is pretty good circumstantial evidence.
Yeah, that's, um... wow.
Since this is a costume thread, who wants to be the first to redesign a character using heromachine or something similar? Or maybe use it to make a costume for themselves?
So you like Spider-man's, Batman's, and...
...Squirrel Girl's...?
There's really not many that this applies to.
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You bastard... I just laughed myself silly.
It's a good costume. But since I have no confidence in her being a strong character, fuck it. Bring on the cheesecake.
Also, the guy in the Deadpool costume is perfect right there.
Adam Strange fucking rules.
I enjoy both, but I prefer the old to the new since the new one has that sort of flotation device thing goin' on.
Captain Comet
Old one is best. His new costume is okay, I suppose, since it doesn't exactly deviate from the original.
Per Degaton
A time-traveling Nazi despot sporting a letterman's jacket. I'm not a big fan of monogramming my clothes but that doesn't keep him from being rad as fuck.
Lobster Johnson
I remember the first time I saw him in Hellboy and thinking how he was the fucking epitome of rad. He still is. A while back Del Toro wanted Bruce Campbell to play him in an eventual Hellboy sequel, but as amazing as that is to me it will likely never happen.
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I apparently haven't posted since Christmas.
I do a lot of this in between short stints of artistic productivity. I did a little mucking about with Booster Gold and Beetle's costumes recently.
A lot of those are crappy, but I like the Booster torso in the upper right. It's supposed to play into his original intention to be called "Goldstar." I may end up doing a full illustration. Oh, and here's an old Iron Man redesign I did for Project Rooftop that was rightfully rejected.
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The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
It is a design for an "estonian hero" over at the cbr forums:
Here's the lenghty character info for anyone that cares to look:
Estonia is located west of Russia and south of Finland. For the majority of the twentieth century, the area was under either Nazi or Soviet rule. In designing a truly "Estonian" hero, I thought it'd be best if I went with a character with a strong sense of national pride, being openly opposed to foreign control.
Early Childhood
The character that I came up with, Paavo Suvari, was born in the late 1920s to a relatively poor Estonian woman that lived in the city of Narva on the border of Russia. His father died during a military excursion prior to Paavo's birth. Lacking a male role model, young Paavo was strongly attached to his mother, who would often entertain her son with traditional Estonian folk tales as well as overly exaggerated accounts of his father's life. Paavo took to one tale very heavily, that of the Kalevide, the national epic hero of Estonia.
The Epic
The tale of the Kalevide originated from the same oral tradition as the Finnish epic that Eliseu pulled his character from. The hero of the Finnish epic's name was Kaleva, a great King of the Eastern Baltic region that both Finland and Estonia are part of. In the Estonian version, Kaleva was simply called Kalev. The hero of the Estonian epic was the youngest son of Kalev, Sohni, later to be called Kalevipoeg or Kalevide, both meaning "son of Kalev". Much like Paavo, the Kalevide was born after his own father's death. The Kalevide was a fierce and intelligent warrior that was trained by a hedgehog to battle using stones and the thin edges of planks.
The Tragedy
On June 14th, 1940, Paavo's mother boarded a small transport plane in Tallinn, the capitol of Estonia. Paavo, in his preteen years, was still uncomfortable being away from his mother for an extended period of time. To soothe his fears, his mother told him that the spirit of Kalev would surely protect her, as the plane was named after him, Kaleva. Unfortunately, The Kaleva was shot down from its flight by two Soviet bombers in the first act of aggression towards Estonia from the Soviet Union. All nine passengers died. The full-scale occupation of Estonia by the Soviet Union occurred two days afterwards.
Upon hearing of his mother's death, coupled with the dramatic experience of being alone at such a young age in the capitol city during the invasion, Paavo vowed to spend the rest of his days fighting Soviet rule. Not trusting anyone, especially Soviet education and government officials, the next few years were spent homeless on the streets of Tallinn. It was during this time that Paavo began to obtain his physical prowess and fighting skills.
The Hero
As he got older, he started to break into the houses and offices of Soviet workers to steal food, money, clothing, and other goods. On one of his excursions he was spotted by a high-ranking soviet official that demanded to know who he was. Thinking back to the tragedy of his mother, Paavo's only answer was to say, "The Son of Kalev" before he escaped. After seeing the harsh way in which soviet soldiers would treat native Estonians, it did not take long for Paavo to decide to start fighting for more than his own survival. As a young man, Paavo designed a costume that would invoke a feeling a patriotism amongst his fellow Estonians, and began his single handed war against the Soviet Union.
The Costume
The one displayed in the image would be intended for winter use, especially in Eastern Estonia, where the climate is more harsh. He would have had a lighter weight outfit for warmer environments.
The colors chosen are those of the Estonian flag: blue, white, and black. The mask/helmet, cape, gloves, and boots are all made of a soft and pliable goat's leather stained blue with the use of cornflowers, the national flower of Estonia. The vest is a double-breasted design and sports an external belt, both of which are elements that would have been inspired by pictures of Paavo's father from his military days which would have been similar to this and this, both dated to the 1930s.
The area around his eyes would be rubbed over with a black substance, such as motor-oil, grease, or shoe-polish, to not only further his disguise, but also to absorb sunlight and reduce sun and snow-glare. The motif displayed by the dark areas around the eyes, along with the nose guard and orange crest on his mask are intended to resemble the look of the barn swallow, Estonia's national bird. This look is also enhanced by two slits in his cape that rise to roughly waist level. When leaping or squatting, this would cause his cape to separate at the ends resembling the feathers of a bird's tail.
The Satchel
The inside of the satchel would consist of complex pouches, flaps, and fastens to hold the contents in place. Those contents would vary depending on what goods he had previously pilfered from soviet workers, but would almost always include:
The Character
He is a skilled self-taught combatant, but has no formal or worldly education (think more Wildcat, less Batman). He is more than competent, but by no means wins his fights flawlessly. He is very resourceful of his surroundings during combat, and would often play off the "fights with stones and planks" aspect of his namesake whenever he could. He has no secret identity, and works from a number of abandoned warehouses and factories across Estonia 24/7 to put as many kinks in the Soviet machine as possible. When not in uniform, he considers himself "undercover" researching for his mission.
He ages normally, and is active up through his sixties, with his last spotted appearance in uniform shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. However, as the years would pass, his lack of social interaction, as well as the frustration of being one man against the whole Soviet Union, would affect him mentally, making him quite eccentric. This, along with the fact that he would often go multiple continuous nights without sleep, completely absorbed by whatever anti-soviet project he was working on, would make him a little "street-crazy". (This aspect of the character, non-existent at first, would have increased along with his age, and in his later active years, he would be written like a mix between Adam West Batman and Frank Miller Batman.)
The Design
I made him short and stout in stature, maybe 5'6". His name, Paavo, even means "small or humble". I found this a fun spin on the character, as the original Kalevide and Kalev were both giants. He has light blue eyes, blonde hair, fair skin, wide facial features, and broad cheekbones: all genetic traits relative to the Eastern Baltic region. His costume is somewhat inspired by Paul Pope's Batman (Batman Year 100) as well as Bryan Hitch's World War II era Captain America (The Ultimates). If he were to be portrayed in film, my first choice for an actor would be Nick Nolte.
Oh, and Munch, excellent sketch sheet. I dig your drawings as always.
I imagine that's what Tony Stark's stand would look like if he was a character in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure. :P
And "Iron Man" fits perfectly into the whole "musical references for names" thing. I wonder what his powers would be?
Shiro just looked badass with the plating.
I used to do table top rping with a couple of friends and had a character that turned to water. One of the friends was a pretty good artist so I asked him to try and do the face like Iceman's from AoA, even gave him the couple of issues that I had at the time with him in it but he never got it right. :x