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Recommendations for PS3 newbie ..
Zilart
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Hey, G&T.
So I sold my Wii today and I'm planning to get myself a PS3, which I have been wanting for a long time. I love Nintendo and all, but to be honest there always felt like there was something missing with the Wii, for me atleast. It sort of just felt gimmicky. I just want a regular controller. And I owned a X360 before I got myself a Wii, so there. The circle can be complete once I get a PS3. :P
So, the thing is, which game should I get? I'm a sucker for good adventure / platforming, but I love me some games that lasts for a good amount of time. I also love RPGs and I am a whore for Final Fantasy, owning most the games of the series (plus some spin-offs) and I love JRPGs. And adventure games.
The thing is, I won't be able to buy a 80GB PS3 -- it's just too expensive for me at this time. I have to settle with a 40GB, which seems to be a little short on space for me, plus it doesn't have PS2 BC, which pisses me off. I don't understand why they wouldn't include it on all their models. Ahwell, I still have my old PS2, so it's not like it's a problem. Just slightly annoying. But I heard you could install another hard drive into the PS3; I heard it was an SATS type hard-drive or something durkadurka. Some dude from Norway apparently installed a 250 GB into his PS3, can I do this to without any major technical abilities? I suck at mostly anything practical and technical.
Also, but not least, which games are must-haves for the system?
I've set my eyes on,
MGS4
GTA4
BF:BC
and
maaybe Burnout: Paradise. But I'm still on the edge of that one.
So, can someone please tell me what is good about the PS3 compared to the other consoles? I know I can read up impressions and all that everywhere else, but I respect the posters here; I much rather would read what you all have to say about the console and its games.
I appreciate any input you guys come with.
Thanks!
EDIT: Ohyeah, I should've said, CoD4 will be purchased after a while but I've played it all summer on my brothers computer, so it's not top priority, really.
So I sold my Wii today and I'm planning to get myself a PS3, which I have been wanting for a long time. I love Nintendo and all, but to be honest there always felt like there was something missing with the Wii, for me atleast. It sort of just felt gimmicky. I just want a regular controller. And I owned a X360 before I got myself a Wii, so there. The circle can be complete once I get a PS3. :P
So, the thing is, which game should I get? I'm a sucker for good adventure / platforming, but I love me some games that lasts for a good amount of time. I also love RPGs and I am a whore for Final Fantasy, owning most the games of the series (plus some spin-offs) and I love JRPGs. And adventure games.
The thing is, I won't be able to buy a 80GB PS3 -- it's just too expensive for me at this time. I have to settle with a 40GB, which seems to be a little short on space for me, plus it doesn't have PS2 BC, which pisses me off. I don't understand why they wouldn't include it on all their models. Ahwell, I still have my old PS2, so it's not like it's a problem. Just slightly annoying. But I heard you could install another hard drive into the PS3; I heard it was an SATS type hard-drive or something durkadurka. Some dude from Norway apparently installed a 250 GB into his PS3, can I do this to without any major technical abilities? I suck at mostly anything practical and technical.
Also, but not least, which games are must-haves for the system?
I've set my eyes on,
MGS4
GTA4
BF:BC
and
maaybe Burnout: Paradise. But I'm still on the edge of that one.
So, can someone please tell me what is good about the PS3 compared to the other consoles? I know I can read up impressions and all that everywhere else, but I respect the posters here; I much rather would read what you all have to say about the console and its games.
I appreciate any input you guys come with.
Thanks!
EDIT: Ohyeah, I should've said, CoD4 will be purchased after a while but I've played it all summer on my brothers computer, so it's not top priority, really.
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CoD4.
Metal.. Gear!??
I never asked for this!
If you like online, get Warhawk. We got a great community of players here too.
Edit: Beat by less than a minute.
If you have a pc that is capable of playing COD4 then get the pc version rather than the console version.
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
Oh, and I also love PSN -- old PSX games is the shit, yo. But I find it confusing with these regions. The Jap region is chock-full of awesome games. So, in order to access and buy them, I just need to make another PSN account (which is free? and I can have as many as I want?) and set country to Japan? Also, will the PSN content be PSN-account restricted?
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Good thing I never sold my old PSX games, haha.. no needing to buy my games a second time. Suckers!
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
Uncharted
Ratchet and Clank
Resistance
Heavenly Sword
Devil May Cry 4
Motorstorm
The Darkness
Warhawk
And replacing your harddrive is super easy. All you need is a laptop harddrive and the instructions are in the manual.
Its the only game that makes me want a PS3.
CoD4
It's a generalized recommendation list, so here's what I have for the PS3:
Grand Theft Auto IV - the story of Niko Belic, arriving at Liberty City to pursue the American Dream, only to face a harsh reality. Beautiful, wide open, and extremely detailed, living city on a scale never conceived of in gaming before, combined with fun and satisfying combat, fast paced vehicle driving mechanics, sandbox gameplay, tons to see and do, online multiplayer, and optional DLC to top if off.
Call of Duty 4 = One of the best military shooters to date, with enough realism to make you feel like you're right on the battlefield. The visuals look amazingly life-like, unmatched by most other PlayStation 3 efforts. The gameplay feels familiar, and at the same time refreshing and exciting. It delivers a powerful single-player experience and an almost impossibly tense, utterly addictive online component and when the two are brought together.
Metal Gear Solid 4 - the latest in the legendary Metal Gear solid series, Metal Gear Solid 4 takes both the series' classic, stealth gameplay as well as its impressive cinematic presentation to a whole new level. Here, the mechanics of sneaking around and snapping necks are the most polished they've ever been: a refined control scheme, new gadgets, and just the sheer muscle of the PlayStation 3 take the stealth in MGS 4 to another level. The new OctoCamo obviates the need to mess around with menus, track of threats with the stealth ring system, and do a whole lot more in the most refined stealth action game in the series. Very few games will match MGS4 in terms of polish, presentation, and storytelling.
Oblivion - A huge, open ended western style RPG. Most importantly and most powerfully, however: The completely open-ended nature of this experience creates a very real sense of infinite possibilities. The fundamental game is just so epic, the world so vast, the options so varied, that you'll find more quality gameplay shoehorned into this disc than just about any other game I can think of.
Rock Band - probably the best music rhythm game available, Rock Band combines some of the best gameplay from Guitar Hero, Singstar, and incorporates its own new and exciting drum-set gameplay, to form the ultimate "virtual band" experience to play with friends. Create a band, customize a character, go on a world tour. Play online. Downloadable content. This game is awesome, and almost anybody can play. Great multiplayer/party game.
The Orange Box - one of the best compilations you can get for the PS3. Classic shooter Half Life 2, and two of its major expansions. But not only that, it includes two of the best games of 2007: the critically acclaimed, innovative, and unique Portal, and the classic multiplayer team-based shooter Team Fortress 2.
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction - An amazing PS3 game that fully leverages the power of the console. It sets a high bar for not only the series, but for the action-platformer genre. Expands and refines the series' excellent running/gunning/platforming gameplay, with fantastic production value, a great sense of humor, and endearing characters. If you loved the original Ratchet & Clank games on the PS2, you'll love everything that Tools of Destruction has to offer.
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - It's easily one of the best single-player games on PlayStation 3, or any platform, this year (2007). Uncharted: Drake's Fortune really shines by borrowing elements of other games and making an experience all to its own that can be enjoyed greatly by those that give it a shot. Creative platforming, interesting puzzles, and exciting third person combat, combined with an intriguing story that constantly pulls you further into the game. The final sum is far greater than the individual parts.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma - a vastly upgraded port of the classic oXbox Ninja Gaiden Black, this iteration of the series features all of the classic, hard as nails action gameplay as the original, but with new moves, actions, and weapons for Hayabusa. Also added is a new playable character -- Racheal, one of the series' heroines, will be playable, and when using her, you'll get to experience the storyline from her perspective (with new cutscenes, attack moves and more.)
Resistance Fall of Man - Resistance: Fall of Man draws players into a deep, frightening story that rewrites the 20th century and pits the United States and Britain against a horrific species of unknown origin. In addition to an epic single player campaign, the game features co-op, split screen multiplayer and highly customizable online gameplay.
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas, Vegas 2 - Rainbow Six Vegas is an excellent tactical simulator. The number of options you have on how to tackle each situation makes for some great unscripted moments, and the visuals and sound help create an atmosphere that wouldn't be possible on older hardware.The single-player campaign is both challenging and satisfying, the online multiplayer is fast and furious
Virtua Fighter 5 - Virtua Fighter 5 features an all-star cast of 17 fighters, including characters from the previous iterations. This is one of the deepest and most technical 3D fighters available. Great variety of characters and fighting styles, deep and rewarding fighting system, and it all comes in a beautiful, fluid package.
skate - With its organic controls, beautiful visuals and amazing presentation, it quickly becomes an addicting experience that's tough to stop playing, even during some of the most frustrating parts of the game. It dumps the superhero antics of the Tony Hawk series and goes back to what it is all about: a man and his board.A stunningly realistic simulation, Skate is a deep, eloquent, and completely free-form experience.
Devil May Cry 4 - Taking the Devil May Cry formula and enhancing it with accessibility is a masterstroke from Capcom. It's a tough action game but has one of the deepest and most satisfying combat systems in any action game. It also marks a great jumping on point for newcomers with a more balanced difficulty level and a decent checkpoint/continue system, but offers plenty of harder modes for the die-hard fans.
Warhawk - As an online multiplayer action game, Warhawk is an excellent game with good graphics, great controls that you can change, and one that runs smoothly even with 32 people playing at once. The constant pressure of combat, fuelled by rapid five-second respawns, keeps the action ripping along at a formidable pace.
Guitar Hero 3 - Guitar Hero 3 is excellent tried and true guitar rhythm gameplay, and includes a quality-and-quantity song list, tons of unlockables, challenge, and online play as well as local multiplayer.
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds - Newest edition of the fantastic Hot Shots golf franchise. Finely honed, beautifully crafted and offering a mountainous challenge, World Tour reels you in with stat boosts and loyalty rewards and never lets you go. Highly addicting gameplay, easy to pick up and play, but rewarding to master.
Civilization Revolution - Civilization Revolution is how all console strategy titles should be. Fun, easy to pick up with a good degree of difficulty. A fantastic, frantic combination of pretty much all the highlights of previous Civilization titles rolled into one single package. Best pure strategy title to appear on consoles to date, arguably.
Battlefield: Bad Company - Good single and solid multiplayer experience. Features destructible environments that actually play a role in gameplay.; mowing down trees with a turret, creating your own side entrance to a heavily fortified base, or ripping open a building to get at the enemies inside are all endlessly fun. Multiplayer kicks things back up, however, by incorporating all of the great destruction and vehicle elements into satisfying attack and defend battles over gold crates scattered throughout the eight huge maps. The five character classes all offer unique weapon combos, and the constantly shifting battlefield dynamics offer plenty of incentive to regularly change your kits.
Heavenly Sword - a beautiful third person action game in the vein of God of War, Heavenly sword delivers constant beat'em up action and follows a unique and interesting story told through gorgeous, high production value cutscenes and beautiful environments. Hundreds of enemies to be slain God of war style. Be cautioned as the game is rather short at 6 hours long; and the combat system is fun, but not as deep as God of War or Devil May Cry.
Virtua Tennis 3 - the latest and greatest game in Sega's Virtua tennis series, this game takes the series' realism to new heights, both with its graphics system, animation system, physics system, and variety and depth of controls and moves. Has a great Career and Player creation mode.
Motorstorm - a gorgeous off-road racing game. This is one of the better racers on the system with a ton of variety, hard pounding action, unique track design, and variety in vehicles. Online multiplayer.
Grid - Grid is all about the fun and excitement of the race. A fantastic game that bridges the gap of arcade and sim styles of the racing genre. graphics, a great damage-model and the fantastic driving experience that will satisfy fans of simulation as well as arcade racers should definitely convince any car freak!
Burnout Paradise - The City is enormous and beautiful, the cars are amazingly detailed, and the control is divine. The game revamps the stock formula in major ways without losing most of the high-speed racing flavor that you hope to see from something with Burnout in the title. Instead of a series of self-contained challenges, Paradise offers up an open world where players are free to explore their inner vehicular homocidal maniac to their hearts' content.
Unreal Tournament 3 - an extremely traditional entry into the Unreal Tournament franchise, this game stays true to its roots by delivering the traditional fast-paced, arcadey, twitch-action first person shooter gameplay that the series has been known for; packaged in the beautiful Unreal Engine 3. If you like fast paced twitch shooters such as prior Unreals or Quakes, you'll probably like this one.
Assassin's Creed (be cautioned) - an open-ended stealth action/platformer made by Ubisoft's Prince of Persia team. The game focuses around spying and sneaking and assassinating your targets. The game contains an interesting story and gorgeous graphics and a lifelike world. Be cautioned, though, as the game's greatest fault is that some find the gameplay to get very repetitive, while others enjoy it throughout.
Condemned Criminal Origins, and Bloodshot - Condemned: Criminal Origins allows players to experience a heightened level of psychological tension as they use their instincts, forensic tools, and melee combat to hunt serial killers and bring them to justice. It's a unique and fun first person take on the survival horror/mystery genre.
Super Stardust HD - Super Stardust HD for the PS3 is a fully updated version of the classic game Stardust. Your mission is simple: destroy everything in sight.. With five highly detailed 3D planets to save, hordes of enemies and asteroids to destroy, and various game play modes, Super Stardust HD presents super intense action. Its visuals, gameplay and intricacy make it the best downloadable shooter available since "Geometry Wars: Evolved" – end of story.
Everyday Shooter - Unlike traditional arcade shooters, the sound effects in Everyday Shooter play in musical harmony with the game’s background music. Throughout Everyday Shooter’s album of games, typical arcade sounds of destruction are replaced with guitar riffs harmonizing over an all-guitar soundtrack. Album of Shooter Games – Each of the 8 ‘songs’ or levels has a completely different visual vibe and chain system. Vector-Based Graphics – Graphics are created from mathematical equations celebrating the beauty of geometry. Stunning, Evolving Synaethesia - Every shot, hit, or explosion creates a visual and musical inspiration that produces a note, chord or riff that harmonizes into the song for each level. Full HD at 1080p – In addition to the fluid music, enjoy the brilliant colors and stylized visuals
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix - Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix downloads Capcom's popular puzzle game into the new generation. The new version of the game features newly created 1080p HD graphics, several new game modes, improved game balance, new stage backgrounds courtesy of Udon Entertainment and online play.You're getting a timeless classic with a great variety of new modes, and on top of that online gameplay. Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix is most definitely addicting.
echochrome - Creative puzzle game with gameplay based on optical illusions, players must utilize five simple laws of perspective to join walkways, hide dangers, and create new paths to reach the "echos," or shadow guides. Create & share your own levels, too.
PixelJunk Monsters - Inspired by the popular and addictive "tower defense" genre, PixelJunk Monsters takes the simple real-time strategy concept of building, researching and base defending and presents it in a uniquely attractive style. With meticulously hand-drawn 2D art, PixelJunk Monsters recreates the look of a classic with crisp graphics designed for optimal viewing in Full 1080p HD
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Or maybe they'll have a new HDD-size/DS3 bundle out after E3 at a not 600$ price point? That'd be sweet.
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I can see people becoming needlessly pissed that their game that was bad but was actually good but was really bad (or whatever) was not on the list.
Has it ever been considered?
I'll PM one and see about whipping one up later. There is a sticky in Moes tavern for buying PC parts, I guess a 'Im getting a new console' thread would be a good idea.
I'll get back to you later today on how it's going. Would take a while to write so give me time.
We used to have a recommendation thread for each console. But there are a couple of problems with it, at least the way it was.
The first problem is that the threads were never updated. They were made, and maintained for a few weeks/months, but then for whatever reason they stopped being updated and the lists became completely out of date. There would be all these new games out and available, but the recommendations stopped at a certain timepoint. Great new games are coming out all the time. You have to keep these types of lists updated constantly. Just about every other week at least something great comes out for one of the many consoles/pc. So it's a problem of keeping the lists updated and of new and good games always coming out.
The second problem is that people forgot the lists existed. I think they were hosted in the Accumulated Knowledge forum, but I'm not sure. So people would ask for suggestions and people kind of forgot the lists existed. And then when they became outdated, it was pointless to link to the lists because, well, the lists were obsolete and new recommendations made in the thread were necessary anyway.
There's a third problem related to the first, though. The advantage of having new recommendation threads pop up periodically is that people can make the new recommendations in the first place. There's been discussions and topics about the new games, usually by then, so people can get a feel for what's good and what appeals to what kind of gamer and make good recommendations. With a thread that is always linked to, you don't always get that up to date feedback on everything. I can tell you, for one, that since having started this txt file of each console, I've edited things in and out more than a few times, making corrections and disclaimers and such, because of new insight into people's opinions and what appeals to what kind of gamer. So, basically, having these threads pop up occasionally can serve as a good way to incorporate new suggestions for recommendations, and I add them to this list I keep.
The new threads also kind of serve as a reminder. I mean, heck, I run the weekly games release thread, and seeing great new games come out and hearing positive responses to them, I still sometimes forget to update the lists. But when these rec threads show up, they always remind me to keep things up to date.
The next reason these types of threads coming up every now and then are good, too, in my opinion, is that they can serve 2 purposes; one, they can be better tailored to the OP asking for recs in that the list, although general, the OP can look over it and ask questions and have them answered easily about whichever game. The second benefit of these threads is that often there will be some discussion about the qualities that may or may not appeal to a person, and I can add that new insight into the descriptions, or add a disclaimer, or add some line that specifies a gameplay style that may have specific appeal.
A permanent thread, I am personally not opposed to. It's just that it, or multiple threads for each system, would have to be maintained by a pretty diligent OP that keeps it up to date regularly. As far as discussion within such a main rec thread, it might get long and tangled over the years with constant back and forth over the merits and qualities of potential recommended games. Unless such a thread was locked.. which would make it difficult for there to be an opportunity for discussion on the merits of games that should/should not be recommended.
So it's a tough question. Do we have a stickied thread and try to keep it up to date and fairly composed? If so, should the stickied thread be locked, or be open to discussion, that could potentially get tangled over the years? Or should we stick to the current system, which has advantages of being tailored to the OP, keep things up to date, and keep the discussion open without things getting tangled for games over the years, but at the disadvantage of there not being a central place to go for reccommendations, and also having rec threads pop up every now and then?
Pros and cons to each way, if you ask me. I'm sort of leaning towards how we do it right now, personally, but I would not be opposed to having a stickied thread, at for the very least to try it out.
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While discussion on the individual merits of games is important it is merely one aspect of the purchase choice.
With there being so many SKUS, so many things for a potential buyer to know such as cabling advice, tv information etc the entire thing wont just be about games.
I think I could whip something up today, seeing as I have a load of free time right before e3 (though during I will probably be working 18 hours days)
My idea was for it to be as objective as possible. Listing the key details in one place so that someone could make their own decision.
Like listing sku types, pros and cons, prices, games sorted by metacritic with a brief description and some links to reviews and, if in existence, the PA forums thread on it.
It would be beneficial I feel, 'im buying a 360 what should i get' is a thread that crops up nearly every few days. im not saying its a huge pain but the exact same advice is given in each thread.
as your post above shows, having one standard game list that you post in every thread kinda indicates a sticky overall thread is perhaps a good thing.
regardless, discussing 'which game is best' or 'which console is best' is just one aspect of buying a home console. some people, many people, simply dont understand the skus, the bundle packs, which games are worth buying.
seems like a huge aspect of games and technology which really always goes unsaid.
the amount of times I have said 'Dead Rising' in a 'what 360 games should I buy' thread is amazing.
The other problem with Metascores is that, honestly, there isn't any debate within a review, nor (directly) between reviewers. There is debate in threads. There are people that can tell you what they liked and didn't like, and forumers don't hold back, and they aren't employed by bosses, or beholden to marketing teams. You also get opinions after the hype, or opinions without much affected by hype. Then there are the obvious biases in some reviews that are due to pressure from marketing. Then there's the problem of the 7-9 scale bloating. So many issues, so many problems with the arbitrary score that aligns the "ranks" of the Metacritic rankings...
Now, you mention the list that I post in each thread and that implies that a sticky is a good thing. But what I don't think most people realize is that the very list I post each time has changed since the last time I had posted it. A new game, or two, may have been posted. A description altered some, to incorporate new insight, or give new details, or fix some error in description. You really have to pay pretty close attention and incorporate opinions on things.
Now, I totally agree that a thread explaining the differences between skus and aspects of hardware is a good thing. Because that changes very, very rarely. And there are only so many skus to deal with. There is a lot of good advice that can be given about hardware and setup and functionality. And it's all pretty objective, so there isn't nearly as much of an "organic/living" aspect to it like the very subjective nature of game recommendations.
You may have recommended Dead Rising in many 360 rec threads, but how many times has Civ Revo been recommended? Battlefield BC? P-A Adventures? Should Assassin's Creed be recommended? If so, to who? If not, why not, since some people love it?
It's almost as if there's an art to it.
Let me just say I agree completely with the idea in theory. But it's very tricky to nail down...
edit: I need to go to sleep; I have a lot of work to do tomorrow morning, but I'll check this thread in the morning when I get a chance. If we do a stickied thread, it has to strike a difficult balance, and it's tough to keep such a thread up to date, especially for multiple systems. Easy on paper, tough in practice..
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It can be done, I know it can. And updating it is something I dont mind.
But regardless, I'll work something out. It would keep G+T cleaner and help people out constantly.
I didn't say I would sort by metacritic, or didnt mean to. I would list metacritic scores as well as describe the game, what it offer, why is has been recommended and by whom, link to the PA thread, link to various sources describing the game.
I would sort game recommendations on genre. It isn't telling someone what to buy, which many advice threads do, it would be showing the best games, what they are like, and allow the reader to choose.
As you said, metacritic isnt a good indicator of what good games to buy when getting a new console. simply picking the top 10 on the metacritic list would be awful.
watch this space.
Oh, I also forgot to mention, we had threads sorta similar to what you're describing. In the past (besides the AFK threads). They were the Console Megathreads....
Those weren't stickied, but they were similar, very similar in concept. This forum did away with them. Although depending on how a stickied console thread works as you're describing, it might be different.
ok i need sleepy now :P i'll check back here in the morning
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Oh I totally get that. Im not envisaging a megathread for each console. It would be purely about the purchase of each console only, what games to get day one, which SKU to get etc.
Discussion of each game and the consoles themselves is contained in their own threads.
This isnt going to be a megathread. It is a purchasing guide only, and will stay ontopic with advice on the very objective things rather than the consolez warz.
I would pass given thierReseller Ratings...
I picked up a PS3 recently, but I'm mostly looking at the future than buying any games that are out. Here's my list~
-Soul Calibur IV (July 29)
-Disgaea 3 (August 26)
-Star Wars : Force Unleashed (Sept 16)
-Little Big Planet (October ?? 08)
-Valkyria Chronicles (October 15)
-FF XIII (Not Soon)
Lol, I'm guessing you mean Nov 15 2009. But yeah I'm looking forward to those at well. However I'll probably only pick up Disgeae 3 if it supports remote play since I can't tie up the TV for long periods of time with an RPG like that. (I doubt it'll support it though...
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
I would be absolutely completely blown away and astounded if FFXIII came out this year at all, in any region, let alone in the USA.
November 15, 2008? Not gonna happen.
edit: beat'd.
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Right now though I just got Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and having never owned any of the previous titles, it's pretty sweet. DMC4 was on my mind, but I decided to get it for PC instead. Same goes for GRID and Burnout.
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I mean not to kill your hope :P
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I see what you did there.
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If you like racing games and aren't quite so much into the "upgrade my rear suspension so i can manage body roll a bit better on grades below 15 degrees" as you are into "i like driving awesome cars really fast through dangerous traffic and sometimes crashing spectacularly" you have to get this.
I fall decisively into that latter category and for me, BPC may be the best racer I've ever played. Its sense of speed, of close calls, and of utter displaced momentum in crashes is unrivaled, and it's built on top of this excellent interface that never boots you out to a menu, even to join multiplayer games. This, plus the fun of exploring a huge city and finding insane jumps and shortcuts makes it a modern classic as far as I'm concerned.
I haven't even mentioned the DLC part, but there's plenty on that here.
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Yeah, i totally agree with this. I too fall in latter, and just want to start racing right away. I've only just got it, but loving it so far, Its not actually the PS3 version, but I'm sure its all the same.
But its worth noting, this game has absolutely no split screen. This was a complete shock to me, since its been a given until this game. Its a great game to hot seat with friends, but that's still a poor substitute.
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