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Nintendo announces motion controls ... again. "MotionPlus," 1:1 add-on for Wiimote

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  • ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    And could this alienate their core audience? The prime draw of the Wii for most folks out there is that you don't have to be very good at games at all. This steps directly in the path of that train just slightly.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Xaquin wrote: »
    what on earth are you talking about?

    It's threepio. Just ignore it.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Then there's at least 6.5 million or so Wii Wheels out there.

    That's assuming NO ONE bought an extra Wii wheel, since Mario Kart comes with one.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Only one of the current Wii peripherals is even required to play the game anyways: Wii fit and the balance board.

    Zapper shell? Just a shell that orients the nunchuck and remote into a gun. You could still play any game perfectly well the old way.

    Wii wheel? Same exact thing.

    The only thing that's required for the one game is the board. Want a PS3 equivilant now? Eye of Judgement and that card game.

    Your complaints are absolutely silly.

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  • peterdevorepeterdevore Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The 'lightsaber game' you guys are talking about is called Force Unleashed. It wouldn't surprise me if Lucasarts asked for this peripheral because the current Wiimote isn't accurate enough. With half of the internet clamoring for a lightsaber game, Nintendo might just have answered 'yes'.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    Again, I get the feeling Microsoft's press event will answer the question of "why."

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  • ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Then there's at least 6.5 million or so Wii Wheels out there.

    25% penetration? Who wants a peripheral that's going to cut their available player base by 3/4? And that's for a $10 part... Think this'll pick up anywhere near the same numbers if it is or adds more that $20 to the price of a game?

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  • ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    Again, I get the feeling Microsoft's press event will answer the question of "why."

    Once again I get the feeling you're right on the money.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    So, basically, two years later we finally get the final specs on the wiimote?

    I can understand R&D and the like, but I hope Nintendo plans on packing this into some games that require it.

    Sheep on
  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    And could this alienate their core audience? The prime draw of the Wii for most folks out there is that you don't have to be very good at games at all. This steps directly in the path of that train just slightly.

    I'd guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find this out.

    though I'd bank heavily on either Link or something to do with a Lightsaber.

    Xaquin on
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    honestly I'm surprised they're using this as an addon rather than a feature for the "Wii 2.0"

    Javen on
  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Damn this thread is moving too fast. I have a Calculus exam I gotta study for! Threepio, can you wait till I'm done? :)

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    BTW, Nintendo did warn distributors about month ago that current Wii SKU would expire within 90 days. It doesn't take genius to see what new SKU will contain.

    elkatas on
    Hypnotically inclined.
  • ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    Damn this thread is moving too fast. I have a Calculus exam I gotta study for! Threepio, can you wait till I'm done? :)

    Check and check. I'll can it for now - PM me when you've got time ;)

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Sheep wrote: »
    So, basically, two years later we finally get the final specs on the wiimote?

    I can understand R&D and the like, but I hope Nintendo plans on packing this into some games that require it.

    What makes you think this is the final version?

    I wonder if they will distribute new Wii Jackets to fit this new thing.
    Oh nevermind it's in the picture durr.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Then there's at least 6.5 million or so Wii Wheels out there.

    25% penetration? Who wants a peripheral that's going to cut their available player base by 3/4? And that's for a $10 part... Think this'll pick up anywhere near the same numbers if it is or adds more that $20 to the price of a game?

    Would you like to tell me how exactly the peripheral that is optional for and bundled for free with 1 game is cutting the player base?

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  • Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Then there's at least 6.5 million or so Wii Wheels out there.

    25% penetration? Who wants a peripheral that's going to cut their available player base by 3/4? And that's for a $10 part... Think this'll pick up anywhere near the same numbers if it is or adds more that $20 to the price of a game?
    Lets ask Activision/Harmonix. Its a good thing the Wii Wheel isnt required for any games.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Then there's at least 6.5 million or so Wii Wheels out there.

    25% penetration? Who wants a peripheral that's going to cut their available player base by 3/4? And that's for a $10 part... Think this'll pick up anywhere near the same numbers if it is or adds more that $20 to the price of a game?

    Are you saying the wheel is anywhere remotely as useful as this? Whatever this does, it is not a piece of plastic. It actually changes the gameplay, and that will sell. The wheel is something you can imagine being there. With this, if you don't have it, you won't be able to play certain games. Whatever the pricepoint, it will sell. If it is above 20, probably not well, but it still will.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    So this is the Motion Pak then?

    Like the ridiculous peripheral nightmare that was, well, every Nintendo console since the SNES.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    elkatas wrote: »
    BTW, Nintendo did warn distributors about month ago that current Wii SKU would expire within 90 days. It doesn't take genius to see what new SKU will contain.

    Considering the image of the MotionPlus thinger shows a new Wii Remote Glove... yeah I guess I wouldn't be too surprised to see this thing packaged with consoles.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    I really doubt that Nintendo would have even bothered if they didn't, y'know, already have a game in mind.

    Daedalus on
  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It's a good job you work at Nintendo Icemopper, because obviously you're about to tell us exactly how this all works with your completely factual knowledge of this peripheral.

    Rami on
  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    I really doubt that Nintendo would have even bothered if they didn't, y'know, already have a game in mind.

    Zelda?

    Sheep on
  • AZChristopherAZChristopher Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    Then there's at least 6.5 million or so Wii Wheels out there.

    25% penetration? Who wants a peripheral that's going to cut their available player base by 3/4? And that's for a $10 part... Think this'll pick up anywhere near the same numbers if it is or adds more that $20 to the price of a game?

    When you are the market leader 25% is still a good number. Although that isn't the point. The point is that so far all the peripherals have just helped to make games more immersive. Even the balance board is only required on one game. For every other game it is just a suggestion to make the game more fun.

    Until we see how this new add-on works we don't know if it will be just another control type programmed into a game or if it will be the control type.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Threepio wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Damn this thread is moving too fast. I have a Calculus exam I gotta study for! Threepio, can you wait till I'm done? :)

    Check and check. I'll can it for now - PM me when you've got time ;)

    HAHA, I'm just teasin. :P

    Must...close...window.

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  • toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Javen wrote: »
    honestly I'm surprised they're using this as an addon rather than a feature for the "Wii 2.0"
    They announced this a day before their own E3 conference and 2 hours before Microsoft's. Rumors have been floating for months that Sony and MS are working on motion controllers, so I get the feeling Nintendo is trying to stay on top of them and take some of the wind out of their sails.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It got bottom of paged, but I can word it a bit better.

    PS3 equivalent: Eye of Judgement.

    Peripheral designed for, packed in with, and used by one game.

    Were you up in arms when that was announced as well? How is this not the same exact thing?

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Mario Super Sluggers does come out pretty soon after E3. That would be a good way to get it packaged and out to people.

    Also if you notice, it looks like there is a new Wii Glove that covers this piece now too. I wonder if this means they might be packing it with the new systems now... Maybe a mail off thing like the gloves were when they first came out? (except only 1 per system)

    1:1 control in a baseball game might actually get me to buy Mario Super Sluggers. But I'm more expecting them to announce Wii Sports 2 tomorrow and pack this in with that and new systems.

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  • RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Damn you Nintendo for doing something that we all know will fail utterly and destroy not only yourself, my house and my family, but also my neighbours house and his family! You finally did it!

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Sheep wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Threepio wrote: »
    I suppose you complain about lightgun games requiring lightguns, too.

    If I was trying to sell a lightgun to the Blue Ocean crowd, I would. Now how about you answer that question - how do you make the vast majority of those who purchased a Wii care about and purchase this?

    Bundle it with a big-name game, like they did for the WiiFit mat.

    obviously.

    So which big name game? Wii Music? Wii... 1:1 Super Happy Fun Time? What big name game is going to need more accurate motion control than the Wii already has?

    I really doubt that Nintendo would have even bothered if they didn't, y'know, already have a game in mind.

    Zelda?

    Fuck, I don't know. I personally am hoping "new IP", but this is Nintendo so I know it's a long shot. I'm just saying that Nintendo is not the sort of company that just throws hardware out there: hardware follows software for them.

    edit: somebody mentioned Wii Sports 2, and let me tell you, that would fucking do it.

    Daedalus on
  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    toxk_02 wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    honestly I'm surprised they're using this as an addon rather than a feature for the "Wii 2.0"
    They announced this a day before their own E3 conference and 2 hours before Microsoft's. Rumors have been floating for months that Sony and MS are working on motion controllers, so I get the feeling Nintendo is trying to stay on top of them and take some of the wind out of their sails.

    I bet Microsofts new controller does 1:1 and Nintendo just wanted to make it crystal clear that they thought of this before anyone else.

    I don't think anyone would be this excited tomorrow if they found out that Nintendo was making a 1:1 add on after Microsoft announced their new controller was 1:1 today.

    that's just speculation on my part.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It got bottom of paged, but I can word it a bit better.

    PS3 equivalent: Eye of Judgement.

    Peripheral designed for, packed in with, and used by one game.

    Were you up in arms when that was announced as well? How is this not the same exact thing?

    because any sane person is completely incapable of taking something called the "Eye of Judgment" seriously.

    Javen on
  • AZChristopherAZChristopher Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    toxk_02 wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    honestly I'm surprised they're using this as an addon rather than a feature for the "Wii 2.0"
    They announced this a day before their own E3 conference and 2 hours before Microsoft's. Rumors have been floating for months that Sony and MS are working on motion controllers, so I get the feeling Nintendo is trying to stay on top of them and take some of the wind out of their sails.

    Speaking of which the ign.com stream is now showing the inside of the Microsoft conference and I'm enjoying the groovy beats.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Whelp, the last time they changed something about the wiimote (that being the gel gripper/wrapper thing), they had a site where you could sign up and set sent however many you already had.

    If this is expected to be a standard part of the wiimote moving forward, I could actually see them doing the same with this. If it's not to be a standard part, then no.

    Jragghen on
  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Rami wrote: »
    It's a good job you work at Nintendo Icemopper, because obviously you're about to tell us exactly how this all works with your completely factual knowledge of this peripheral.

    You're welcome, although with how much I've already told, I'll be fired soon.

    But yeah, I am just completely guessing, but really can't imagine this not changing a game. The wheel didn't change the game at all, it just gave you a different way to hold the remote. This seems to be much much more than that, thats all I'm saying.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    This should have been done in the first place.

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  • MonstyMonsty Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I just want 1:1 dual wiimote Punch-Out Wii, tarn sarnit. I don't care if it's the tacked-on afterthought mode!

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    That looks like it'd really screw up the balance of the Wiimote.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    1:1 Pikmin tossing controls? Awesome.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm thinking everyone should reserve judgment till we know more.

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