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THE BLU-RAY INVASION

trantramptrantramp Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Moe's Stupid Technology Tavern
I'm wondering if anyone would have any idea if when or at all blu-ray will begin to compete and take over DVDs as the primary format?

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    RonenRonen Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    trantramp wrote: »
    I'm wondering if anyone would have any idea if when or at all blu-ray will begin to compete and take over DVDs as the primary format?

    Not for years. Low hardware adoption and higher cost. It's extremely far from being a dominant format.

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    Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Not until there is a sub $100 player will you start to see a larger scale change over. Right now you can barely find sub $300 players that aren't on sale.

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well, DVD took around thirteen years or so to supplant VHS, so...

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    ArcticMonkeyArcticMonkey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Well, DVD took around thirteen years or so to supplant VHS, so...

    DVD is not even thirteen years old yet. It was released commercially in 1997. And by any measure DVD became market leader exceptionally fast.
    For instance in Norway the last VHS major release was in 2004.

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    A few guesses:

    1. Consumer perception that Blu Ray isn't a huge improvement over DVDs. I have no data, but I'm sure at least some people would think it.
    2. Many of the reasons that people wanted to switch to DVD aren't gained when moving to Blu Ray. Going to DVDs, you saw a bunch of convenience improvements such as no rewinding and no tape wear from repeated viewings. Those sort of improvements aren't seen moving to Blu Ray.
    3. Blu Ray adoption rates are, with the exception of the PS3, tied to the subset of TV owners that is HD TV owners. There's less people around that own them to adopt compared to all TV owners being able to benefit from DVD players.

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    TheMarsVoltaireTheMarsVoltaire Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    DVDs will survive as the dominant format until digital distribution is ready usurp all physical media formats.

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    khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    DVDs will survive as the dominant format until digital distribution is ready usurp all physical media formats.

    I think this is highly unlikely. Drawing a parallel to the music industry, Itunes has been around for 5 years now and digital sales only account for 15% of the global market. The high definition market did start slowly with about half the sales of DvD for the first two years. Blu-ray appears to be growing however with estimated sales of $194 million for the first 6 months of 2008, this is nearly a 350% gain over the combined BD and HD sales in the first 6 months of 2007. Blu-ray sales are also expected to at least triple what digital downloading is expected to sell. This Christmas is going to crucial to the future of Blu-ray and should also be when prices drop into to the $200 range.

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    victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    DVDs will survive as the dominant format until digital distribution is ready usurp all physical media formats.

    I don't want to offend anybody or you, but people who think this are living in a tech media bubble.

    Not everybody has an internet connection, and less people have a broadband connection.

    Digital movie distribution isn't going to usurp physical media until broadband internet is as widespread as the telephone.

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Plus the bigger broadband providers are looking into/have started implementing usage caps. Digital distribution can't function as well under such limitations.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm still hoping someone can come up with a decently-priced external Blu-Ray drive for PC/Mac in the next few years. I've got a gorgeous display sitting in front of me--better than all the other TVs in the house--but no content to watch on it.

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    TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Is there any general idea on when Blu-Ray player prices will drop to $150ish levels? I want a Blu-Ray player, but not badly enough to shell out $300 or buy a PS3.

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    khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm still hoping someone can come up with a decently-priced external Blu-Ray drive for PC/Mac in the next few years. I've got a gorgeous display sitting in front of me--better than all the other TVs in the house--but no content to watch on it.

    Is $200 a decent price? You can also go with a internal for $130 or so. Prices are suppose to be in the $200 range this Christmas so for $150 probably late 2009.

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    victor_c26 wrote: »
    DVDs will survive as the dominant format until digital distribution is ready usurp all physical media formats.

    I don't want to offend anybody or you, but people who think this are living in a tech media bubble.

    Not everybody has an internet connection, and less people have a broadband connection.

    Digital movie distribution isn't going to usurp physical media until broadband internet is as widespread as the telephone.

    I'm willing to bet that the number of people who don't have broadband but do have a high-definition television are vanishingly small. There's some overlap here you're not considering.

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    mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The problem with Blu-Ray is I saw some horrible Tyler Perry "special edition" movie for $40

    seriously. Not even an action movie or special effects or anything.

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    EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Personally I'll probably wait till you can buy an internal blu-ray burner for a reasonable sum before I purchase.

    I'm sure the rise of blu-ray will be tied to the spread of high-def sets. Both have to come down in cost (more than they already have) before the combination is anything close to reasonable for the average family.

    I don't think digital distribution will take over for movies prior to blu-ray. It's a nice thought, but it's pretty obvious that the movie industry is not overly fond of the net. Their idea of digital delivery is sending someone a subpoena by e-mail when they sue them.

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    GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Internet distribution will never replace physical media, lots of people prefer the physical artifact. I'm not saying net distribution will be a failure, i'm just saying it will never kill physical media.

    The reason why bluray isn't taking off that much is because of a number of factors 1. Price, as mentioned the right price point isn't there yet 2. You only get the advantage of bluray if you also have a hdtv (see 1) 3. People have just started really getting into dvd and suddenly their collections are obsolete? Not if they can help it. The switch to a newer format is probably too soon for that. 4. The quality increase from dvd to bluray isn't as major as it was from VHS to DVD.

    Ok for an audio format example; at the start of the 20th century we had vinyl records.. by the mid 1960's we get the cassette tape and then the cd in the 1980's.. look at the time between each format, it's the same kind of thing with video. People don't like a format change every few years, they prefer it every few decades and only if it gives a noticeable increase in quality. (look at the stillborn sacd and dvd-audio, no perceptibly noticeable increase in quality)

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    EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hmmmm. I'm not so sure. When I look at kids these days, I pretty much see a generation of people being groomed to believe that buying a sound on a cell phone is no different from buying a physical item in a store. Actually they probably think the cell phone thing is better, as it involves less walking.

    I don't think it'll be quick, but in 50 years I can't imagine entertainment being delivered physically, not when your wristwatch is just as capable of playing your movies as your living-room 'set'. Guess we'll see.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    khain wrote: »
    I'm still hoping someone can come up with a decently-priced external Blu-Ray drive for PC/Mac in the next few years. I've got a gorgeous display sitting in front of me--better than all the other TVs in the house--but no content to watch on it.

    Is $200 a decent price? You can also go with a internal for $130 or so. Prices are suppose to be in the $200 range this Christmas so for $150 probably late 2009.

    Hmm. Think this would work in OS X? Because if so $200 is just about the most I'd pay.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    4. The quality increase from dvd to bluray isn't as major as it was from VHS to DVD.

    That necessitates a big, well-rounded, full-bodied glass of wut. The barriers to entry are higher in order to see the improvement (a 1080p HDTV of a decent size, depending on seating distance) but there's definitely just as big of an improvement. I'm not going to try to argue that it's "bigger" because VHS->DVD had the massive edge in terms of audio quality, but regular SD looks just horrid now after fattening up the HD collection.

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    GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    4. The quality increase from dvd to bluray isn't as major as it was from VHS to DVD.

    That necessitates a big, well-rounded, full-bodied glass of wut. The barriers to entry are higher in order to see the improvement (a 1080p HDTV of a decent size, depending on seating distance) but there's definitely just as big of an improvement. I'm not going to try to argue that it's "bigger" because VHS->DVD had the massive edge in terms of audio quality, but regular SD looks just horrid now after fattening up the HD collection.

    The point still stands, it's merely an increase in the resolution of the video.

    All you got with VHS was some analog video that gradually deteriorates over time.

    Look at all the things DVD introduced over VHS.

    Significant video quality/resolution increase
    Menus
    Chapter selections
    Multiple sound tracks (for example director commentary, alternate languages)
    Multiple selectable subtitles
    Excellent sound quality and addition of things like proper surround support
    Most significantly no deterioration of video or audio quality over subsequent playback

    Whereas when it comes down to it all that bluray really offers over DVD is a better higher resolution picture and the only people who will see that advantage are those with a hdtv.

    My point still stands, the overall quality isn't anywhere near as big a jump as it was from VHS to DVD.

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    DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    3. People have just started really getting into dvd and suddenly their collections are obsolete?

    A DVD player won't play VHS tapes, but Blu-Ray players will play dvd's, and with upconversion (by the set or the player) their existing dvd's will look better on their huge ass TV. If someones DVD player broke today, unless they totally want to cheap out, they can get a Bluray player for a reasonable price. And if they didn't want to spend 50% more they can still buy and play dvd's.

    OK, I'm picking nits, I don't really disagree. I think we're still a few years off of mainstream BluRay, but maybe not. I'm finding lots of recent dvd's on sale at 50-75% off ($5-8 a piece).
    (look at the stillborn sacd and dvd-audio, no perceptibly noticeable increase in quality)

    Sorry, still prefer vinyl played on my 70's record player, driven by my 50's tube amps; much better sounding then my ought era multichannel receiver and cd player. :P


    Edit: GrimReaper -> and audio, uncompressed audio is impressive. I'd say it's more impressive than the extra pixels.

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    4. The quality increase from dvd to bluray isn't as major as it was from VHS to DVD.

    That necessitates a big, well-rounded, full-bodied glass of wut. The barriers to entry are higher in order to see the improvement (a 1080p HDTV of a decent size, depending on seating distance) but there's definitely just as big of an improvement. I'm not going to try to argue that it's "bigger" because VHS->DVD had the massive edge in terms of audio quality, but regular SD looks just horrid now after fattening up the HD collection.

    DVD looks great, so great in fact that you need to get a 30+ inch HDTV in order to get a better image.

    at smaller sizes, DVD and blueray arent that big of a difference unless you are sitting right under the TV.

    most people dont have 30+ inch HDTVs or even 30+ inch SDTVs

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    BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    4. The quality increase from dvd to bluray isn't as major as it was from VHS to DVD.

    That necessitates a big, well-rounded, full-bodied glass of wut. The barriers to entry are higher in order to see the improvement (a 1080p HDTV of a decent size, depending on seating distance) but there's definitely just as big of an improvement. I'm not going to try to argue that it's "bigger" because VHS->DVD had the massive edge in terms of audio quality, but regular SD looks just horrid now after fattening up the HD collection.

    A pretty sizeable portion of HDTV owners don't watch any HD content at all. They bought their TVs to hang on the wall, not add $20 to their monthly cable/sat bill.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    The point still stands, it's merely an increase in the resolution of the video.
    All you got with VHS was some analog video that gradually deteriorates over time.

    Look at all the things DVD introduced over VHS.

    Significant video quality/resolution increase
    Menus
    Chapter selections
    Multiple sound tracks (for example director commentary, alternate languages)
    Multiple selectable subtitles
    Excellent sound quality and addition of things like proper surround support
    Most significantly no deterioration of video or audio quality over subsequent playback
    Whereas when it comes down to it all that bluray really offers over DVD is a better higher resolution picture and the only people who will see that advantage are those with a hdtv.

    My point still stands, the overall quality isn't anywhere near as big a jump as it was from VHS to DVD.

    An approximately 500% higher resolution picture, and lossless audio - which as pointed out is a significant improvement as well.

    Again, you can't say that there's "not as big of an improvement" just because you need higher-end equipment to see it. You won't see an improvement in the A/V quality of DVD if you play it through an RF adaptor into an old 19" tube set with built-in speakers.
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    DVD looks great, so great in fact that you need to get a 30+ inch HDTV in order to get a better image.

    at smaller sizes, DVD and blueray arent that big of a difference unless you are sitting right under the TV.

    most people dont have 30+ inch HDTVs or even 30+ inch SDTVs
    DVD looks great when you have nothing else to compare it to; when you put it next to HD, it's simply not up to par.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    BubbaT wrote: »
    A pretty sizeable portion of HDTV owners don't watch any HD content at all. They bought their TVs to hang on the wall, not add $20 to their monthly cable/sat bill.
    ... And? :|

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    GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    The point still stands, it's merely an increase in the resolution of the video.
    All you got with VHS was some analog video that gradually deteriorates over time.

    Look at all the things DVD introduced over VHS.

    Significant video quality/resolution increase
    Menus
    Chapter selections
    Multiple sound tracks (for example director commentary, alternate languages)
    Multiple selectable subtitles
    Excellent sound quality and addition of things like proper surround support
    Most significantly no deterioration of video or audio quality over subsequent playback
    Whereas when it comes down to it all that bluray really offers over DVD is a better higher resolution picture and the only people who will see that advantage are those with a hdtv.

    My point still stands, the overall quality isn't anywhere near as big a jump as it was from VHS to DVD.

    An approximately 500% higher resolution picture, and lossless audio - which as pointed out is a significant improvement as well.

    Again, you can't say that there's "not as big of an improvement" just because you need higher-end equipment to see it. You won't see an improvement in the A/V quality of DVD if you play it through an RF adaptor into an old 19" tube set with built-in speakers.
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    DVD looks great, so great in fact that you need to get a 30+ inch HDTV in order to get a better image.

    at smaller sizes, DVD and blueray arent that big of a difference unless you are sitting right under the TV.

    most people dont have 30+ inch HDTVs or even 30+ inch SDTVs
    DVD looks great when you have nothing else to compare it to; when you put it next to HD, it's simply not up to par.

    Most hd stuff is 720p, that's not a massive increase. 720x576 versus 1280x720.. not major. Only the very newest stuff is available in 1080p. And please, lossless audio is great and all.. but please give me an example of a double blind test where people could actually notice the difference in audio quality between some AC3 (or whatever) encoded and something lossless. (no perceptible difference in quality)

    BTW, DVD does support lossless audio in PCM. It also supports MPEG-1 Layer 2, AC3 and DTS. It's rare you'll find stuff using PCM though because of the bitrate and space requirements.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Most hd stuff is 720p, that's not a massive increase. 720x576 versus 1280x720.. not major. Only the very newest stuff is available in 1080p.
    o_O

    Every BD/HD movie is 1080p. Several HD channels are 1080i.
    And please, lossless audio is great and all.. but please give me an example of a double blind test where people could actually notice the difference in audio quality between some AC3 (or whatever) encoded and something lossless. (no perceptible difference in quality)

    I know some people who can tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and the original WAV.
    I also know some who can't tell the difference between a 128kbps MP3 and the original WAV.
    Just because you can't see/hear a difference doesn't mean it's absent.
    BTW, DVD does support lossless audio in PCM. It also supports MPEG-1 Layer 2, AC3 and DTS. It's rare you'll find stuff using PCM though because of the bitrate and space requirements.
    So that would be an advantage of BD/HD - more space to put these improvements.

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    DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    And please, lossless audio is great and all.. but please give me an example of a double blind test where people could actually notice the difference in audio quality between some AC3 (or whatever) encoded and something lossless. (no perceptible difference in quality)

    So we're going the "I don't believe you" route?

    I really doubt there are any double-blind tests of such as you are asking for. You don't mess up a good racket like high-end AV, by bringing in "tests" and "science." :P

    Watch House of Flying Daggers with the uncompressed Chinese audio in bitstream, the pebble test scene and the bead room. If you can't tell the difference, then stick to your dvd's. My understanding is hearing is the first to go.

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    DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah the different between DVD and HD is phenomenal I think one of the bigger problems is most department stores that have blu-ray players on display with the large HDTV aren't even using HD. I've been to two Sony Stores and both had the movies playing in 480P on all the display televisions. Most of which were TV's larger then 40".

    It's rediculous, and then stores like Walmart, Zellers and stores like that have there TV's all hooked up in S-video, it was pretty dumb. The picture looks like shit and what message does that give the the average consumer.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
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    The difference between DVD and Bluray varies dramatically based on the film. And it's not like the case with early DVDs, where it was just a question of whether the transfer was good or not. Many films on Bluray just plain don't look much different than DVD.

    Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is one of the best examples of this. It's a very soft image, and it's nigh impossible to see the difference, because the fuzziness of the film itself is greater than the fuzziness of the DVD transfer.

    While SC is the best example, it's not the only one. Even on some seriously top-quality transfers, many of the scenes are mediocre showcases for HD resolution. I was watching Blade Runner the other day. Gorgeous, gorgeous transfer, and razor sharp at times. But a lot of the film doesn't look any better than a good-quality DVD, just because the film itself isn't designed to show off.

    And before anyone tells me that I just don't know any better, I have a 50" 1080p Sony Bravia that's properly calibrated and I am a fucking supergeek when it comes to A/V. When there's a difference, I can spot it. But often, there simply isn't. To me, Bluray is a Big Fucking Deal, and I love my PS3 and television as a result. (And I can't wait to pick up a receiver that can take advantage of TrueHD audio.) To the average person, though - even the average person with a good-sized TV - it's not. That makes the appeal of Bluray much lower. Certainly less than the appeal of DVD over VHS, even ignoring the convenience features.

    That said, Bluray has a tremendous advantage in its backwards compatibility. If and when Bluray players get down to $100 - and they will, inside a couple years - there will be no reason not to buy one. For $50 over the cost of a DVD player, you future proof yourself with a system that can still play your entire library. Why not?

    Still, there's a chance that Bluray will never become dominant. Probably about 50/50 at this point. At the worst, though, I think Bluray will operate as a niche market, sort of like a turbocharged LaserDisc market. LaserDisc did pretty well for itself as a niche market, and I can survive if the only films that come out in HD are big budget releases and other high-profile stuff. I really don't need to see every pore on Jennifer Aniston in the latest chick flick.

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    BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    BubbaT wrote: »
    A pretty sizeable portion of HDTV owners don't watch any HD content at all. They bought their TVs to hang on the wall, not add $20 to their monthly cable/sat bill.
    ... And? :|

    And these people, despite owning HDTVs, are not likely to be driving any sort of BRD sales. Because even though they have HD-capable screens, they are more than comfortable viewing the SD content that you describe as horrid.

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    theantipoptheantipop Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Is BluRay encryption as easily broken as DVDs? If not, that's why I don't care about the format, no archival/portability options.

    I'll also throw my money into the "not that big of quality increase" camp. In motion, HD movies dont' offer much for me over DVD picture/sound. If it cost the same I'd go for it, but I wouldn't pay more than a $2 per disc premium for the content.

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    theantipoptheantipop Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    That said, Bluray has a tremendous advantage in its backwards compatibility. If and when Bluray players get down to $100 - and they will, inside a couple years - there will be no reason not to buy one. For $50 over the cost of a DVD player, you future proof yourself with a system that can still play your entire library. Why not?

    There is a reason not to buy one: your DVD player is still alive and kicking. I'd surmise a fair number of people converted to DVDs because their VHS players stopped working and they couldn't buy a player anymore.

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    DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    theantipop: No, not as easily, but it can be done. And that's about as much as I can say w/out violating forum rules.

    Does anyone know what's holding up the release of movies to Blu-Ray? I've been waiting for "Any Given Sunday" (a Warner Bros. title) for ever (it seems). "I Am Legend" (a much newer Warner title) has already been released, what gives?

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    khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    theantipop wrote: »
    Is BluRay encryption as easily broken as DVDs? If not, that's why I don't care about the format, no archival/portability options.

    I'll also throw my money into the "not that big of quality increase" camp. In motion, HD movies dont' offer much for me over DVD picture/sound. If it cost the same I'd go for it, but I wouldn't pay more than a $2 per disc premium for the content.

    According to Wikipedia the DRM has been broken several times. Also price per disc at big box stores is fucking ridiculous and even Amazon's 30% off is still way to high.

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    ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Djeet wrote: »
    theantipop: No, not as easily, but it can be done. And that's about as much as I can say w/out violating forum rules.

    Does anyone know what's holding up the release of movies to Blu-Ray? I've been waiting for "Any Given Sunday" (a Warner Bros. title) for ever (it seems). "I Am Legend" (a much newer Warner title) has already been released, what gives?


    all down to the publishers choice. They will wait to release certain types of films at certain point of the year that will have a better chance of success.

    For me I love Blu-Ray I love the fact that the discs have that cool coating that prevents scratches. Mean I can buy pre-owned movies with confidence. At the moment the Blu-Ray movies seem to have a pretty good price point with Sony published films. Having older quality titles priced lower than the latest releases. So its good to find a Blu-Ray movie thats only £3 more expensive than the DVD I can justify the quality/price difference.

    The problem I see is some studios are making a dogs dinner of their conversions and pricing structure.

    When Warner Bros is having to release a 2nd version of Full Metal Jacket because the first release was of such a poor quality is a bad sign. Having these movies at 300% more expensive than the DVD version doesn't help.
    I have a hard time trying to convince myself that a £30 Blu Ray is worth it over a £7 DVD version.

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    EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Does the 'cool coating' in question actually prevent disc scratches? I only ask because most of the time protective coatings are useless but I've yet to pick up a BRD or player yet.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I see a lot of people saying that DVD doesn't look as good once you're used to Blu-ray.

    I'm happy with DVD quality. Therefore, I'll hold off on a new player until I'm given a compelling reason to upgrade.

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    khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Djeet wrote: »
    Does anyone know what's holding up the release of movies to Blu-Ray? I've been waiting for "Any Given Sunday" (a Warner Bros. title) for ever (it seems). "I Am Legend" (a much newer Warner title) has already been released, what gives?

    Here's a article about how studios pick which movies get released first. Day and date releases have pretty high chance of getting released and being a blockbuster, like I am Legend was, basically guarantees that it will come out on Blu-ray. I also believe that Blu-ray production is capped by the number of manufacturing facilities they have.

    edit: Not sure this is the place, but Amazon does have a B2G1 sale right now for those that have a Blu-ray player.

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    ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ego wrote: »
    Does the 'cool coating' in question actually prevent disc scratches? I only ask because most of the time protective coatings are useless but I've yet to pick up a BRD or player yet.

    Yes it does. There have been reports and videos of people using knives on the discs and not leaving a mark.

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