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ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I didn't consolidate my student loans a few years ago, because I thought interest rates were going to drop. Well, they didn't, so I just stuck it out, figuring that interest wasn't going to get much higher. I was right, it didn't, and since they re-evaluate federal student loan rates in July (going by the fiscal year), it means that they just adjusted interest rates for the year. The interest on my loan dropped from 7.7% to 4.2%. That is correct, four point two percent.

If you have a variable-rate student loan sitting around, or multiple student loans sitting around that are fixed-rate, now is an awesome time to consolidate. The odds of interest rates getting any lower are fantastically small. Here is a website about loan consolidation, which is maintained by the U.S. government. I don't usually give direct "this is exactly what you should do" financial advice, but this is one time I'm making an exception: I would say for at least 90% of you who are out of college, you will save a significant amount of money by locking in this interest rate.

If you have questions about student loans, student loan consolidation, or wonder whether or not this is right for you, this thread is the place to ask.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I have one loan in my name that is locked in at 3.25%, but the other is in my mom's name and I pay it. I can't consolidate these, can I?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I recently consolidated my federal loans, I'm guessing I can't do it again?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    EggyToast wrote: »
    I have one loan in my name that is locked in at 3.25%, but the other is in my mom's name and I pay it. I can't consolidate these, can I?
    You may be able to get the loan put into your name and consolidate it (depending on what the interest rate for the other loan is, that may be cheaper). Is the loan in your mom's name secured or unsecured? And is it just in your mom's name, or is your mom a co-signer?
    bowen wrote: »
    I recently consolidated my federal loans, I'm guessing I can't do it again?
    Not unless you include an additional loan.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    oh fucksticks, i'm looking at student loan stuff now for grad school.


    this is really my first time doing this stuff, and it's a bit confusing...


    which company should i go with for the lender? what things (aside from the best interest rates) should i look for, and watch out for?

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    edited July 2008
    So let me get this clear. If I have variable-rate loans, then the interest rates have already been adjusted, but consolidating them locks me in to the current low rate for the remaining life of the loan. Right?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    So let me get this clear. If I have variable-rate loans, then the interest rates have already been adjusted, but consolidating them locks me in to the current low rate for the remaining life of the loan. Right?
    Probably not at the current rate, but at a slightly higher rate. You have to apply for loan consolidation (see the website above), and they'll make you an offer. What I'm saying, though, is that you're going to get a better offer right now than you're likely to see anytime in the next 10 years. It's possible interest rates will go lower, but I don't really see how; there's generally a floor to these things, and it's pretty much there at this point (they're already talking about bumping interest rates; most people were surprised Bernanke didn't do it this week, actually).

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    So let me get this clear. If I have variable-rate loans, then the interest rates have already been adjusted, but consolidating them locks me in to the current low rate for the remaining life of the loan. Right?
    Probably not at the current rate, but at a slightly higher rate. You have to apply for loan consolidation (see the website above), and they'll make you an offer. What I'm saying, though, is that you're going to get a better offer right now than you're likely to see anytime in the next 10 years. It's possible interest rates will go lower, but I don't really see how; there's generally a floor to these things, and it's pretty much there at this point (they're already talking about bumping interest rates; most people were surprised Bernanke didn't do it this week, actually).

    Thantos has good financial advice, once again. You may be able to get an even lower rate, after you consolidate.

    When I consoldiated my student loans in the summer of '04, I locked in at something like 3.25%. After making the first 6 payments ontime I get a 0.125% (I think) discount for the remainder of the loan, as long as I keep paying it ontime. Additionally I get around 0.50% off for setting up autopayment from my bank account, again I think I get to keep this so long as I am not late on any payments. So I'm pretty sure I'm paying about 2.625% on the loan (somewhere around there). I only had Stafford loans though, so other people might have different experience.

    I might have those numbers confused, but I pretty sure I got discounted interest rates for both those reasons and I know the rate I pay now is 2.625%

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    This is excellent advice - I consolidated my loans back in June of '04 and now I'm sitting at 3%. It saves a lot of money over time.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanks, this was really useful. I just started paying back two of my five loans, three of them are at 4.2%, but the two largest are at 6.25% so hopefully this'll help knock down some of the interest rates.

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  • FFFF Once Upon a Time In OaklandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Does this also go for private student loans?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    FF wrote: »
    Does this also go for private student loans?
    You can consolidate private student loans (unless there's something in your loan agreement that prohibits early repayment), just make sure you won't effect the tax-deductiblity of your interest if you do so (and even if you do, it might be worth it).

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I have a kind-of related question. I'm in the process of getting student loans for law school. I have a choice between Grad-PLUS, which has a fixed 8.5% interest rate or a private loan that could be as low as 0.5% below prime (but would depend on my credit score). The private loan would be variable and would change when the prime rate changes. It seems like the prime rate has bottomed out or is close to it, and the highest it's been in the last 10 years is 9.5%. Any suggestions?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    I have a kind-of related question. I'm in the process of getting student loans for law school. I have a choice between Grad-PLUS, which has a fixed 8.5% interest rate or a private loan that could be as low as 0.5% below prime (but would depend on my credit score). The private loan would be variable and would change when the prime rate changes. It seems like the prime rate has bottomed out or is close to it, and the highest it's been in the last 10 years is 9.5%. Any suggestions?
    You can apply for the variable rate and see what they offer. Just because they offer it to you doesn't mean you have to take it.

    Taking the variable interest rate loan carries interest-rate risk. The fixed-rate doesn't, but that's damn high interest for a student loan.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    In case anyone's interested I just read something in the newspaper today. Ohio is apparently going to pass a bill that will have the federal government pay the tuition of the children of veterans. Supposedly starting Aug 2009.

    I'll see if I can find some online information about it for you guys.

    e: Hmm... Everything I'm finding online says differently. Damn you Dayton Daily News! You bastards!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/education/09vets.html

    e2: Here's the Dayton Daily News thing: http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/07/08/ddn070908vets.html

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Probably dumb question, but if I'm not out of school yet, can I consolidate my current loans?

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Probably dumb question, but if I'm not out of school yet, can I consolidate my current loans?

    Yes. I actually did this with my Staffords awhile back before they took a jump.

    Here's a question. I've got two private unsub-signature loans at 5 and 5.5% from the same bank. I then have my consolidated loans (all stafford-unsub) through sallie mae, and a separate unsub-stafford loan from a separate bank. The consolidated loans have begun on repayment...the remainder are in grace till November. Is there anything I can do with adding the remaining unsub-stafford loan to the consolidation given that it's in repayment? And what about the two private loans sitting around at 5%?

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  • wallabeeXwallabeeX Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hell yes.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Scrublet wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Probably dumb question, but if I'm not out of school yet, can I consolidate my current loans?
    Yes. I actually did this with my Staffords awhile back before they took a jump.

    Here's a question. I've got two private unsub-signature loans at 5 and 5.5% from the same bank. I then have my consolidated loans (all stafford-unsub) through sallie mae, and a separate unsub-stafford loan from a separate bank. The consolidated loans have begun on repayment...the remainder are in grace till November. Is there anything I can do with adding the remaining unsub-stafford loan to the consolidation given that it's in repayment? And what about the two private loans sitting around at 5%?
    As long as you're adding extra loans in, you can consolidate.

    I believe you can consolidate the private loans along with the government loans, too.

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  • The Green Eyed MonsterThe Green Eyed Monster i blame hip hop Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The really sad part that Thanatos isn't telling us -- he totally jerked off when he heard this news.

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  • Aurora BorealisAurora Borealis runs and runs and runs away BrooklynRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    When I consolidated I could consolidate the government loans (staffords sub and unsubbed) and my private loans (a signature loan and a couple of others thru sallie mae), but I couldn't consolidate them together. So I now essentially have two loans, one that's all the gov loans and one that's all private. I am still paying them both through Sallie Mae though, so it's a little silly.

    Oh, and I have a perkins loan that I deliberately left unconsolidated, because it had a really low payment anyway and the terms and interest were far superior than those of the other loans, even after consolidation.

    Undergrad freshmen should also be aware that the PLUS loan you see on your aid package is different from all the others- it is a loan to your PARENTS and not to you. They usually put it on there to fill out gaps. So if your parents can't or won't go into debt for you, you have to find that money somewhere else. I always went through the wringer with this when I'd get my aid package number every year. Two years in a row I had to get my dad to apply for the loan and be rejected (low income, not a lot of credit), so that I could get another Stafford unsubsidized instead.
    Then my senior year they changed the rules and he was for some reason accepted for the loan, even though his financial situation hadn't changed at all. Which meant that I could not get my unsub stafford loan and I had to ask him to take the PLUS, and it was all sorts of awkward for me because I had no wish to let my parents pay for my tuition. But I had to do it because it was my last year and damned if I was gonna quit. It all worked out in the end, but it was a massive pain in the ass.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    That reminds me. Every year for my financial aid I was awarded an unsubsidized stafford loan. And every year my mom would call the financial aid office and complain (about the overall package, not the loan). They'd always say nothing could be done, but if she submitted an official complaint in writting they'd look at it again. Every year they gave me an identical new package, but the stafford loan was subsidized.

    I think the moral is that you should always complain about your financial aid package. I imagine its easier for the office to offer a minor change to the small number of people who complain than it is to argue about it. This can be to your benefit. I'd even imagine the schools budget for this.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Blargh. I'll probably be getting student loans a year from now. Here's hoping the interest rates don't climb too quickly.

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  • whuppinswhuppins Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    celery77 wrote: »
    The really sad part that Thanatos isn't telling us -- he totally jerked off when he heard this news.

    ALL MY LOANS ARE CONSOLIDATING

    What's the simplest way to tell whether a loan is fixed-rate or variable-rate? My wife has a student loan and I don't know anything about it and I'm pretty sure she doesn't pay attention to anything about it either. Like, if I asked her what kind it is, she'd probably just look at me and shrug and say "Sallie Mae".

    How can I determine if this loan is eligible for consolidation?

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited July 2008
    My wife and I are both currently in college (same school, if it matters). Can we consolidate our loans together?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Delzhand wrote: »
    My wife and I are both currently in college (same school, if it matters). Can we consolidate our loans together?
    Loans in an "in-school" status cannot be consolidated.

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  • The Count Of Midget FistoThe Count Of Midget Fisto Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Also this is from thier FAQs
    12. Can I consolidate jointly with my spouse?

    No, Effective July, 1 2006 a married couple may no longer obtain a Direct Consolidation Loan as joint borrowers.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    My wife and I are both currently in college (same school, if it matters). Can we consolidate our loans together?
    Loans in an "in-school" status cannot be consolidated.

    This must be incorrect to some extent...I consolidated all of my Stafford loans through Sallie Mae prior to my graduation. I was not making payments on the loans, they were listed as in-school deferment status. Incidentally, these were loans from two different schools (I transferred after Freshman year).

    Edit: You can no longer do this...see below.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm in the same boat as far as needing to borrow for law school, and will have to take quite a bit out under the GRAD PLUS loan. I imagine the interest rate is so high because it has no upper limit for how much you can borrow (you can pay for everything that Stafford doesn't with it) and because it is basically guaranteed to most grad students - without a cosigner - so long as you've never declared bankruptcy or are in arrears with the IRS.

    I'm going to have to borrow sooooo much money. I am very, truly, honestly scared of how much money I'll need to borrow. Here's hoping that I can consolidate mine to a 3% or 4% when I finish up in a few years.

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Scrublet wrote: »
    his must be incorrect to some extent...I consolidated all of my Stafford loans through Sallie Mae prior to my graduation. I was not making payments on the loans, they were listed as in-school deferment status. Incidentally, these were loans from two different schools (I transferred after Freshman year).
    The odds are you did this prior to July 1, 2006. I remember during my first year of law school, Congress passed legislation that prevented in school consolidation on federally guaranteed loans. It took effect July 1, 2006 and there was a huge rush for everyone to get their loans consolidated before then and lock in an interest rate of something like 3.75%.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Raggaholic wrote: »
    Scrublet wrote: »
    his must be incorrect to some extent...I consolidated all of my Stafford loans through Sallie Mae prior to my graduation. I was not making payments on the loans, they were listed as in-school deferment status. Incidentally, these were loans from two different schools (I transferred after Freshman year).
    The odds are you did this prior to July 1, 2006. I remember during my first year of law school, Congress passed legislation that prevented in school consolidation on federally guaranteed loans. It took effect July 1, 2006 and there was a huge rush for everyone to get their loans consolidated before then and lock in an interest rate of something like 3.75%.

    Correct. I was part of this rush. Edited above post.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    i'm a bit bewildered at who might be the best lender to go with for Stafford and Grad Plus loans.


    anyone have any good experiences (HA!) with specific lenders they'd be willing to share?

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I have had no issues or complaints with Sallie Mae.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Scrublet wrote: »
    I have had no issues or complaints with Sallie Mae.

    I have. I recommend Nelnet.

    Do you prefer to speak to James, that outstanding British Indian? Or James, the crazy guy from Nebraska? Sallie Mae is the first one. Sallie Mae also refuses to work with you at all most of the times, at least with everyone in my fucking city for some reason.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    bowen wrote: »
    Scrublet wrote: »
    I have had no issues or complaints with Sallie Mae.

    I have. I recommend Nelnet.

    Do you prefer to speak to James, that outstanding British Indian? Or James, the crazy guy from Nebraska? Sallie Mae is the first one. Sallie Mae also refuses to work with you at all most of the times, at least with everyone in my fucking city for some reason.

    I should clarify that by having no issues, I also meant I have never had to interact in an extensive manner with customer support or do anything complicated. I have simply had nothing go bad on its own. Past that, I can't vouch for or against them.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Scrublet wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Scrublet wrote: »
    I have had no issues or complaints with Sallie Mae.

    I have. I recommend Nelnet.

    Do you prefer to speak to James, that outstanding British Indian? Or James, the crazy guy from Nebraska? Sallie Mae is the first one. Sallie Mae also refuses to work with you at all most of the times, at least with everyone in my fucking city for some reason.

    I should clarify that by having no issues, I also meant I have never had to interact in an extensive manner with customer support or do anything complicated. I have simply had nothing go bad on its own. Past that, I can't vouch for or against them.

    Well, it's just another random datapoint, but I've had to intereact with their customer service on several occasions and have no complaints whatsoever about them. They've been easy to deal with for me, and they were fine with a few late payments I had a couple years ago -- didn't start calling me up and bugging me right away as soon as they were late.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daenris wrote: »
    Scrublet wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Scrublet wrote: »
    I have had no issues or complaints with Sallie Mae.

    I have. I recommend Nelnet.

    Do you prefer to speak to James, that outstanding British Indian? Or James, the crazy guy from Nebraska? Sallie Mae is the first one. Sallie Mae also refuses to work with you at all most of the times, at least with everyone in my fucking city for some reason.

    I should clarify that by having no issues, I also meant I have never had to interact in an extensive manner with customer support or do anything complicated. I have simply had nothing go bad on its own. Past that, I can't vouch for or against them.

    Well, it's just another random datapoint, but I've had to intereact with their customer service on several occasions and have no complaints whatsoever about them. They've been easy to deal with for me, and they were fine with a few late payments I had a couple years ago -- didn't start calling me up and bugging me right away as soon as they were late.

    They called my friend 8 times after 11:00pm EST to get payment. According to them, he'd not been paying his bills for 4 years, and they've been trying desperately to reach him. He was still in school and got this call 2 weeks after graduation. (They were just trying to get him to pay early, if it had been 4 years, he would've defaulted)

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  • ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I just got approved for a 35k loan, and have another 6k loan out. Would consolidating these be a good idea, or is it not possible to do that with such a recent loan.

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  • Rufus_ShinraRufus_Shinra Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    My wife and I are both currently in college (same school, if it matters). Can we consolidate our loans together?
    Loans in an "in-school" status cannot be consolidated.
    So let's say I graduate from college this year, but begin Medical school next year. Can I consolidate my college loans once graduating, or will I still be "in-school"? I will be taking out even more loans for medical school if that changes anything.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    My wife and I are both currently in college (same school, if it matters). Can we consolidate our loans together?
    Loans in an "in-school" status cannot be consolidated.
    So let's say I graduate from college this year, but begin Medical school next year. Can I consolidate my college loans once graduating, or will I still be "in-school"? I will be taking out even more loans for medical school if that changes anything.
    Are your loans subsidized or unsubsidized?

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  • KtnmooKtnmoo Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I am entering my first year of college, and I was approved for two loans, the stafford subsidized (6%) and unsubsidized (6.8%).

    I shouldn't be worrying about consolidating until after graduation, right?

    Also, has anyone here gotten a Perkins loan? My friend did, and I was wondering why I didn't get one. Our needs are similiar (our EFCs are the same too). I ask because that loan looks a bit better compared to the Stafford (5% int, 9 months grace period compared to 6 and 6.8% int and 6 months grace)

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