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The best film you've never seen (about post-WW1 Germany)

Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4toArlington, VARegistered User regular
edited July 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_(film)

This is a film no one knows about. It's a 'what if' about the rise of Hitler. There are three main characters-

-Hitler (played by Noah Taylor)--An artist with an amazing oratorical ability, if not a particularly strong willpower (or that much skill at art). He has a great many sentimentalities that are retarded (like Eugenics or Blood Purity). Noah Taylor plays Hitler as an He's put between his love of art, and the ability he has as a hateful demagogue. This places him between-

-Sergert Mayr (played by some German actor) is the early leader of the Nazi party who wants to use Hitler's skill to make his party great. Historically, he became enemies with Hitler after he took over the party and was killed in Buchenwald.

-Max Rothman (played by Cusack) Cusack's usual amazingness is put into a Jewish veteran who lost his right arm (his painting arm) during the Battle of Ypres, who (as a humanist and doing his Andy Warhol impression) thinks that Hitler's subversive art has a place in Wiemar Germany.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If Woodrow Wilson had his way, WW1 would have never happened. He wanted to rebuild and reform Germany, but The American Senate, and the allied powers pushed a "make Germany suffer" move. I bet things would look differently if they had listened.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Cantido wrote: »
    If Woodrow Wilson had his way, WW1 would have never happened. He wanted to rebuild and reform Germany, but The American Senate, and the allied powers pushed a "make Germany suffer" move. I bet things would look differently if they had listened.

    Wtf?

    Anyway on topic, I loved this film.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    If Woodrow Wilson had his way, WW1 would have never happened. He wanted to rebuild and reform Germany, but The American Senate, and the allied powers pushed a "make Germany suffer" move. I bet things would look differently if they had listened.

    Wtf?

    Anyway on topic, I loved this film.

    Fuck, meant WW2.

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  • TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Cantido wrote: »
    If Woodrow Wilson had his way, WW2 would have never happened. He wanted to rebuild and reform Germany, but The American Senate, and the allied powers pushed a "make Germany suffer" move. I bet things would look differently if they had listened.

    The Versailles Treaty reparations payments actually amounted for a small minority of Germany's postwar debt. Contrary to Hitler's propaganda efforts, the wrathful provisions of the treaty didn't bankrupt Germany, the Kaiser's rampant military spending did. The government ended up way over their heads in debt to financial institutions and their own citizens.

    Preventing the collapse of the German currency and economy would have required a lot more than forgiveness and magnanimity on the part of the allied powers. It would've required a major financial aid effort that no one else could afford at the time, either. And Germany wasn't an occupied nation, they just withdrew from France and Belgium and ceded some territory in concession. None of other combatants owed Germany the kind of financial assistance afforded decades later in the Marshall Plan.

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