This is interesting
Update - I wrote a little about this [url= ]here[/url] - but if you don't want to click, here's the text:
Have you ever bought a game, and then not managed to get it working on your machine? Have you ever had to resort to download a no-cd crack to get it to run? I know I have, and I know that the games industry considers me a massive pirate due to buying their software, then running it in a way they don't like.
Which makes this thread over on the Ubisoft forums all the more entertaining. When faced with a version of Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 that wasn't working on lots of machines, ubisoft did exactly what you would have done. They when and got a no-cd crack of the internet and released it as an official patch.
Here's the crackers code in the patch (apparently the name tag gives it away):
I'm not condoning piracy, even when you're pirating the pirates, but what I do like here, is that I'm sure everyone here has "pirated" in the black and white eyes of Ubisoft. But you know that did wasn't wrong. You know you are not a pirate just because you didn't want to put your disk in your machine to get your game to work.
And today, by stealing that code, Ubisoft have acknowledged that piracy, at least when it concerns them, does indeed have shades of grey.
All respect goes to neilthecellist for revealing the story and Oby for bringing it to my attention.
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According to the Ubisoft forums. despite condemning no-dvd cracks they've been caught 'thieving' the code from said cracks for their own official updates.
I'm not really making a judgement call on this, two wrongs don't make a right and all that (not that I think no-dvd cracks are wrong), but to both condem and benifit from crackers seems, whats the word,
dickish.
Proof (apparently):
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Somehow I don't think RELOADED minds.
I'm sure you can still get it from wherever RELOADED put the *snicker snicker* official patch before Ubisoft made it official.
Fixed that for you.
2009 is a year of Updates - one every Monday. Hopefully. xx
Apparently, the CD-checks that the PC version of R6Vegas2 used were buggy and caused crashes. Naturally, users of the pirated version were unaffected. So, Ubisoft said "fuck it" and released an official patch consisting of RELOADED's (a piracy group) hacked version of the .exe file.
I think more game companies should do this; I'm downloading all these patches as soon as I buy a game anyway.
So, Ubisoft was having issues with disc validation, then went and used a Reloaded! no-cd fix to 'solve' their problem?
Explain.
Pay them for what.
Yes. They called it an official patch, but it's actually the same thing as the hack used by Reloaded in their pirated release, apparently. Right down to Reloaded's tag in the file.
I'd watch that.
I want to be in the office when they track down the programmer who put that together.
As far as I can tell.
Ubi release a version of R6Vegas that's DRM means it fails the DVD check even when you have the DVD in. So they need to release a patch. Rather than write one, they steal one.
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Doing their job for them?
Taste of their own medicine.
Okay now it's hilarious.
Oh, man, I could totally see it.
"Hey, newguy. We're having serious problems with the copy protection. Corporate said "fuck it", so just write a patch that gets rid of it. As soon as fucking possible. I mean get it out the door by tomorrow."
"Sure thing, boss."
hours later
"Oh, shit, I've been on the Penny Arcade forums all day. Fuck, I need that patch or else they'll fire me. Wait, I know what to do!"
Two wrongs now make a right?
Ubisoft was fucking lazy and stole from a pirate group. That is just plain sleazy.
In other words, "We hate pirates, but not so much that we wouldn't steal code from them."
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
Again, I really don't think RELOADED has a problem with this. In fact, I'll bet you they're laughing and high-fiving more than we are.
Such is life on the high Cs.
Sounds like good business practice to me.
It was a joke.
The evil no-dvd crackers made their software work for them, and they tell me that taking code without paying is stealing, so hopefully they'll be paying for it.
I don't mean it, I just find it amusing that they condemn a group of people who actually manage to make their products work when they themselves can't.
2009 is a year of Updates - one every Monday. Hopefully. xx
This shows incompetence on the part of Ubisoft. What if it contained malware? Do I want to trust a company that is too fucking lazy to write a simple program?
Especially if your pissing of your actual paying audience to such an extent that you have to get the pirates to bail you out.
2009 is a year of Updates - one every Monday. Hopefully. xx
If it contained malware they wouldn't have used it.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
If it had malware in it, the release would have been nuked and RELOADED would have been completely discredited in the scene. Really, it's fine on that front.
Everybody who pirated the game checked it for them.