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Heart disease, diabetes, obesity... what do all these maladies have in common? The food we eat is a common cause. At the same time, many people cannot afford or otherwise do not get food that contains the nutrients human beings need for optimal health.
Food pills have been part of science fiction for decades, but will there ever be a point at which the human race will transition to their consumption? How would food pills be produced and distributed? How would the many facets of our economy, such as farmers and major food corporations, react to an attempt to transition to food pills? Would food pills be prescribed for individuals and treated much the same as medication? How would social situations adapt without banquets for events, romantic dinners for couples to eat on dates, or even popcorn at the movies?
In summary, is the production and use of food pills possible, or even practical?
If a food pill didn't taste like anything (and I imagine it wouldn't) then I know I wouldn't subsitute that as a meal. Not only do I eat food because I have to eat to live, I also just like eating. And I think that's instinctual, so we're probably never going to get rid of it.
What I think is more likely is food that is genetically modified to be very nutritious yet incredibly delicious. Like a steak that is fat-free, but is still incredibly tender, juicy, and delicious.
Food pills are science fiction. First of all, a 'pill' would not be enough mass to satiate the hunger response. Secondly, a pill could never contain all the nebulous 'nutrients' you need to survive. Not all that biomass you eat gets turned into shit. It's not possible to make a singular 'pill' that could act as a total replacement for all food.
Food pills are science fiction. First of all, a 'pill' would not be enough mass to satiate the hunger response. Secondly, a pill could never contain all the nebulous 'nutrients' you need to survive. Not all that biomass you eat gets turned into shit. It's not possible to make a singular 'pill' that could act as a total replacement for all food.
Well, food pills could also contain a substance that negates hunger. Second, if not a single pill, what about a set that could be taken over the course of the day?
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We have Vitamins, but I think that's about as far as it will go. Maybe get something for other nutritional sources?
Negating hunger and actually getting enough calories to live are two totally different things
Usually the standard is that fat is 9 calories per gram, protein and carbohydrates 4 calories per gram. This would make the smallest possible 1500 calorie pill 167 grams. You need a lot of pills to reach 167 grams worth of fat, and there's also the health hazards associated with just consuming fat for nourishment. It could be possible if we found an even more calorie-dense substance that we could digest, but since the human body evolved to be able to digest things found in nature, it's going to be a bit difficult to find such a thing
Plus, people tend to eat food for enjoyment these days
Well, since it's already been made abundantly clear that food pills are unlikely to be developed, does anyone want to engage in some speculative fiction regarding the transition to food pills if they were somehow made into a viable alternative to actual food?
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
Textures and temperatures are important for food, too. How would a dissolving flavor sheet simulate crunchiness?
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
Textures and temperatures are important for food, too. How would a dissolving flavor sheet simulate crunchiness?
Well...people who've never eaten real food probably wouldn't care about those things, or even flavor that matter. Flavor sheets would probably be used mainly by those who were born before the transition to food pills.
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
Textures and temperatures are important for food, too. How would a dissolving flavor sheet simulate crunchiness?
Well...people who've never eaten real food probably wouldn't care about those things, or even flavor that matter. Flavor sheets would probably be used mainly by those who were born before the transition to food pills.
Except flavor sheets wouldn't be used by them because those people still like eating. You can't get rid of culture with a pill.
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
Textures and temperatures are important for food, too. How would a dissolving flavor sheet simulate crunchiness?
Well...people who've never eaten real food probably wouldn't care about those things, or even flavor that matter. Flavor sheets would probably be used mainly by those who were born before the transition to food pills.
Except flavor sheets wouldn't be used by them because those people still like eating. You can't get rid of culture with a pill.
Well, they'd just have to get used to it, then. Just because culture's always been around doesn't mean it deserves to stay forever.
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
Textures and temperatures are important for food, too. How would a dissolving flavor sheet simulate crunchiness?
Well...people who've never eaten real food probably wouldn't care about those things, or even flavor that matter. Flavor sheets would probably be used mainly by those who were born before the transition to food pills.
Except flavor sheets wouldn't be used by them because those people still like eating. You can't get rid of culture with a pill.
Well, they'd just have to get used to it, then. Just because culture's always been around doesn't mean it deserves to stay forever.
One, this is just speculation. Two, because food pills are a staple of sci-fi. Three, for an in-world explanation, because any government that would favor food pills would likely be against the majority of substances that can possibly be abused or cause harm to individuals, such as unhealthy foods.
I think the world should bend to my will and everyone should live in my vision of the perfect utopia as well. What's your point?
I'm just trying to envision a world where food pills are the norm. You have a great point at why they would never become prominent, though.
People would use food pills and not real food. What do you want? For us to imagine every situation involving food not existing? Dinners, banquets, ice cream trucks wouldn't be altered, they'd cease to exist.
I think the world should bend to my will and everyone should live in my vision of the perfect utopia as well. What's your point?
I'm just trying to envision a world where food pills are the norm. You have a great point at why they would never become prominent, though.
People would use food pills and not real food. What do you want? For us to imagine every situation involving food not existing? Dinners, banquets, ice cream trucks wouldn't be altered, they'd cease to exist.
How would society adapt for those things, though? For example, the production and distribution of food is a huge industry that provides many, many jobs. What would fill the void?
The production and distribution of food pills because, ironically, they take up the same amount of land and labor as real food.
What, really? With food pills there would be no fast food restaurants, concession stands, vending machines, anything. Maybe I'm not thinking this through enough, but I wouldn't think that the production and distribution of food pills would offer quite as many job opportunities as the current industry.
I think the world should bend to my will and everyone should live in my vision of the perfect utopia as well. What's your point?
I'm just trying to envision a world where food pills are the norm. You have a great point at why they would never become prominent, though.
People would use food pills and not real food. What do you want? For us to imagine every situation involving food not existing? Dinners, banquets, ice cream trucks wouldn't be altered, they'd cease to exist.
How would society adapt for those things, though? For example, the production and distribution of food is a huge industry that provides many, many jobs. What would fill the void?
Food pill developers maybe? The whole food pill idea is well, asinine, it's natural instinct to eat something, and you can't block out instincts, go ahead try it.
I wouldn't think that the production and distribution of food pills would offer quite as many job opportunities as the current industry.
Really? Could you perhaps explain what part of the food pill creation process makes it easier?
Alright, let's assume that farmers still had to grow food to be converted into pill form. Then, there of course has to be people to create the pills, people to determine who gets what kind of food pill, and people to distribute the pills.
The biggest problem with the whole pill idea is that aside from how physically and psychologically unsatisfying eating a pill would be, you need to fit about 2,000 calories, and all the vitamins, minerals, and nutrients you'd get from your standard diet into pill form, and you rapidly reach the point where it'd just be easier to make a sandwich.
Why would it make them obsolete? Companies are going to be pushing consumers to buy their pills - they go down easier, taste better, leave you feeling fuller, whatever. Marketing and retail would still be in full swing as different makers tried to convince you to take their pills.
And honestly, food pills are in no way, shape, or form anything even remotely resembling a staple of sci-fi.
The biggest problem with the whole pill idea is that aside from how physically and psychologically unsatisfying eating a pill would be, you need to fit about 2,000 calories, and all the vitamins, minerals, and nutrients you'd get from your standard diet into pill form, and you rapidly reach the point where it'd just be easier to make a sandwich.
I can understand the physical limitations, but not the psychological problems. From what I understand, a chemical called leptin lets your body know when it needs food and when it is satisfied. A substance in the pill could artificially induce satisfaction.
Why would it make them obsolete? Companies are going to be pushing consumers to buy their pills - they go down easier, taste better, leave you feeling fuller, whatever.
I assumed that the government would be in charge of food pills, not private companies. However, I guess it is a possibility.
Letin makes you not want to eat anymore. I'm talking about the very pleasant acts of tasting, chewing, enjoying the texture, what ever. So unless that pill also includes a hefty does of opiates, I'm not going to be feeling too satisfied after lunch. The only advantage a pill has it's compact, and lack of spoilage. Aside from those, there's absolutely nothing to make taking them attractive.
I would suspect more realistically we will end out with a sort of meal-loaf or bar used for normal breakfast/lunch rations with the luxury of eating meat and fruit and things as a dinnertime thing.
Leptin makes you not want to eat anymore. I'm talking about the very pleasant acts of tasting, chewing, enjoying the texture, what ever.
Is the actual act of eating that integral to human nature? I'm sorry, but I'm just having a hard time comprehending that people would be that pissed off that they couldn't taste or feel food in their mouths anymore, especially for those people who would be born after the transition and would never have had any other substance ingest.
Of course, I bite my tongue all the time when I eat, so maybe I'm biased.
Leptin makes you not want to eat anymore. I'm talking about the very pleasant acts of tasting, chewing, enjoying the texture, what ever.
Is the actual act of eating that integral to human nature? I'm sorry, but I'm just having a hard time comprehending that people would be that pissed off that they couldn't taste or feel food in their mouths anymore, especially for those people who would be born after the transition and would never have had any other substance ingest.
Of course, I bite my tongue all the time when I eat, so maybe I'm biased.
The act of taking a break out of your day and eating something with friends/family is one of the primary ways we socialize.
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What I think is more likely is food that is genetically modified to be very nutritious yet incredibly delicious. Like a steak that is fat-free, but is still incredibly tender, juicy, and delicious.
Well, food pills could also contain a substance that negates hunger. Second, if not a single pill, what about a set that could be taken over the course of the day?
Usually the standard is that fat is 9 calories per gram, protein and carbohydrates 4 calories per gram. This would make the smallest possible 1500 calorie pill 167 grams. You need a lot of pills to reach 167 grams worth of fat, and there's also the health hazards associated with just consuming fat for nourishment. It could be possible if we found an even more calorie-dense substance that we could digest, but since the human body evolved to be able to digest things found in nature, it's going to be a bit difficult to find such a thing
Plus, people tend to eat food for enjoyment these days
Well, since it's already been made abundantly clear that food pills are unlikely to be developed, does anyone want to engage in some speculative fiction regarding the transition to food pills if they were somehow made into a viable alternative to actual food?
Seriously though, unless the pill is delicious then there's no way I'm giving up food.
That would be terrible!
Forget food pills, I want floating cities and rocket packs
For taste, I was thinking something along the lines of packs of thin, flavored sheets that you place on your tongue and let dissolve. That way, people could experience pleasant flavors whenever they want without overeating.
They use dehydrated food, I'm pretty sure.
UPDATE: Yep, although I'm not sure you'd want to eat it...
Textures and temperatures are important for food, too. How would a dissolving flavor sheet simulate crunchiness?
Well...people who've never eaten real food probably wouldn't care about those things, or even flavor that matter. Flavor sheets would probably be used mainly by those who were born before the transition to food pills.
Well, they'd just have to get used to it, then. Just because culture's always been around doesn't mean it deserves to stay forever.
Wait, why do we want to get rid of food again?
I'm just trying to envision a world where food pills are the norm. You have a great point at why they would never become prominent, though.
One, this is just speculation. Two, because food pills are a staple of sci-fi. Three, for an in-world explanation, because any government that would favor food pills would likely be against the majority of substances that can possibly be abused or cause harm to individuals, such as unhealthy foods.
How would society adapt for those things, though? For example, the production and distribution of food is a huge industry that provides many, many jobs. What would fill the void?
What, really? With food pills there would be no fast food restaurants, concession stands, vending machines, anything. Maybe I'm not thinking this through enough, but I wouldn't think that the production and distribution of food pills would offer quite as many job opportunities as the current industry.
Food pill developers maybe? The whole food pill idea is well, asinine, it's natural instinct to eat something, and you can't block out instincts, go ahead try it.
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Alright, let's assume that farmers still had to grow food to be converted into pill form. Then, there of course has to be people to create the pills, people to determine who gets what kind of food pill, and people to distribute the pills.
That leaves marketing and retail obsolete.
Why would it make them obsolete? Companies are going to be pushing consumers to buy their pills - they go down easier, taste better, leave you feeling fuller, whatever. Marketing and retail would still be in full swing as different makers tried to convince you to take their pills.
And honestly, food pills are in no way, shape, or form anything even remotely resembling a staple of sci-fi.
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I can understand the physical limitations, but not the psychological problems. From what I understand, a chemical called leptin lets your body know when it needs food and when it is satisfied. A substance in the pill could artificially induce satisfaction.
I assumed that the government would be in charge of food pills, not private companies. However, I guess it is a possibility.
Okay, fine, but they do show up.
Is the actual act of eating that integral to human nature? I'm sorry, but I'm just having a hard time comprehending that people would be that pissed off that they couldn't taste or feel food in their mouths anymore, especially for those people who would be born after the transition and would never have had any other substance ingest.
Of course, I bite my tongue all the time when I eat, so maybe I'm biased.
The act of taking a break out of your day and eating something with friends/family is one of the primary ways we socialize.