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Disgaea: Afternoon of... Confusion.

ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Games and Technology
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DISGAEA: AFTERNOON OF DARKNESS
a.k.a.
DISGAEA: HOUR OF DARKNESS

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Good Lord am I confused.

So, I recently picked up Disgaea: AoD again. I'm a big fan of strategy RPGs, and this isn't even my first NIS game, having played through a good chunk of Phantom Brave and La Pucelle Tactics (I have Disgaea 2, but it's pretty much been sitting in my backlog, sadly). Maybe it is this well-informed background that's leading to my trouble with this particular title!

Basically, my issue is that I have no idea how to best progress. I'm at the beginning of Episode 4, and I find myself using a bunch of different characters (feels like too many!), don't know if I'm using the right type of character, don't know how much I should be using the item world, don't know what to petition the assembly about, don't know who should be the mentor for certain types of characters...

Okay, there is a lot to keep track of in this game and I don't really even know where to start. D:

Any tips for the Disgaea newb?

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    I share your frustration and found that I needed to work an Excel spreadsheet to bring any sanity to the party.

    Some people like this.

    Also, I concede that its a lot less work than FFT.

    I just still found it no fun at all.

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I really, really wanted to like Disgaea back on PS2. But I decided early on that the frustration:fun ratio was just too high for me.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'd recommend you upgrade your spellpoint orbs and muscle fights at the very minimum, then your imperial seals if you get more ( I have around 4 at this point in the game, plus a dark rosary, plus a devil ring, which are like upgraded versions of the imperial seals).

    Then when you have your powering up items upgraded work on weapons.

    As for the other questions, I can't answer them. It's up to you. My team composition is wildly different from my gf's team composition.

    You unlock better versions of classes by playing the previous version up, and even then, the basic classes sometimes unlock really good classes when you get them to say, 100. For example, the basic red, blue, green mages are the only ones that can get tetra versions of their spells, the ultimate ones. Later mages which can cast all three types can't do this. So there's literally no reason why you can't keep using whatever class takes your fancy for the rest of the game, they all have a benefit. There's even a little npc that says "you don't need to know much about item worlds and the senate to complete the game, so don't worry".
    So ignore apotheos excel crack, that only matters if you are ocd about it.

    As for mentoring, don't worry about that too much. You get a small stat boost for the master, but I'd just concentrate on what abilities you want to transfer. For example I gave my priests mages so they could cast attack spells.

    More specific questions would help, it's a pretty damn big game to give general advice that doesn't go on ten posts.

    The game is excellent when you dig into it's guts, and has incredible depth, so bear with it until it clicks and all the "frustration" just goes away.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Just use and power up who you want. There's no real wrong way to play it.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Disgaea is boring to play. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Disgaea is boring to play for me. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story as far as I'm concerned.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

    Such a fine line between arrogance and opinion.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, you can easily get through the plot of the game without going into the item world after the single required time.

    There's a lot of depth in this game, but don't fuss over it too much. Disgaea is about making tiny gods and beating the shit out of the opposition with them. Item worlding and power leveling are only necessary if you want to tackle the extra content.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Disgaea is boring to play for me. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story as far as I'm concerned.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

    Such a fine line between arrogance and opinion.

    You don't have to agree with him to allow him to own his opinion.

    Note that despite failing twice to get into Disgaea 1 I have 2 on the shelf, and 3 on preorder.

    I'm sick. Help me.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    apotheos wrote: »
    Disgaea is boring to play for me. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story as far as I'm concerned.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

    Such a fine line between arrogance and opinion.

    You don't have to agree with him to allow him to own his opinion.

    Note that despite failing twice to get into Disgaea 1 I have 2 on the shelf, and 3 on preorder.

    I'm sick. Help me.

    That's not what I'm saying.

    He didn't put it out as his opinion. His words are generalised. If he meant it as opinion he should add the extra, which I helpfully added. I'm so nice.

    I got no problem with an opinion.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I tried to get into Disgaea on the PS2 and couldn't at all. I liked it more on the PSP, but still, there's just too much there. I couldn't keep with it because I wanted to do everything all at once.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    apotheos wrote: »
    Disgaea is boring to play for me. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story as far as I'm concerned.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

    Such a fine line between arrogance and opinion.

    You don't have to agree with him to allow him to own his opinion.

    Note that despite failing twice to get into Disgaea 1 I have 2 on the shelf, and 3 on preorder.

    I'm sick. Help me.

    That's not what I'm saying.

    He didn't put it out as his opinion. His words are generalised. If he meant it as opinion he should add the extra, which I helpfully added.

    How many people - tell me a number - do you think would be confused and interpret his words as absolute fact without your help?

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Zeromus wrote: »
    Basically, my issue is that I have no idea how to best progress. I'm at the beginning of Episode 4, and I find myself using a bunch of different characters (feels like too many!), don't know if I'm using the right type of character, don't know how much I should be using the item world, don't know what to petition the assembly about, don't know who should be the mentor for certain types of characters...

    Okay, there is a lot to keep track of in this game and I don't really even know where to start. D:

    Any tips for the Disgaea newb?
    You're overcomplicating things; due to the game's grindy quality, there tends to be a decent margin of error for pretty much everything.

    6-7 characters is probably around the sweet spot, where you'll have enough to work with without stretching resources. You can get away with not using the item world at all; it's not strictly necessary for the story mode. I only went through the required ten levels my first playthrough. That said, leveling up items, and acquiring specialist can be helpful, if you're inclined to do it.

    For the Dark Assembly, chances are you won't be able to get much more than the shop proposals passed for most of the game, given the stubbornness of the thing.

    Transmigration isn't really useful except to change class (i.e. upgrading a brawler to a ninja or a warrior to a Ronin).

    Mentors are only really significant when it comes to magic inheritance. By having a mentor stand next to a pupil, the mentor can learn spells from the pupil by using them until they reach level 1. This is a good way to make Clerics usable. Furthermore, spells can be passed through multiple levels of mentors:

    So let's make a mage. Have the mage kill until it acquires enough mana to create another mage pupil (let's say a Cleric). Have that cleric make three pupils of it's own.

    Mage > Cleric > Fire/Ice/Wind Mage

    The cleric can acquire offensive magic from the three pupils, then the original mage can learn anything the cleric has. This way, you can get pretty much any spell you need on both your mages. If you only use 1 mage, you can skip the first step. I hope I made that clear (It's perhaps one of the most complicated bits).

    As for team building I usually go with

    1 spear user
    1 fist user
    1 axe user
    2 sword users
    1-2 mages

    but that's just me. Furthermore, you'll want to make an effort to unlock Ronin and Ninja classes, since they're wholly improved over their basic counterparts (warrior/brawler).

    Edit: Note, that Disgaea changes dramatically post-game, so this advice is for story mode.

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    edited July 2008
    Don't take Disgaea too seriously. It's a game with exploding penguins.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    apotheos wrote: »
    apotheos wrote: »
    Disgaea is boring to play for me. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story as far as I'm concerned.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

    Such a fine line between arrogance and opinion.

    You don't have to agree with him to allow him to own his opinion.

    Note that despite failing twice to get into Disgaea 1 I have 2 on the shelf, and 3 on preorder.

    I'm sick. Help me.

    That's not what I'm saying.

    He didn't put it out as his opinion. His words are generalised. If he meant it as opinion he should add the extra, which I helpfully added.

    How many people - tell me a number - do you think would be confused and interpret his words as absolute fact without your help?

    A lot of people would take offense that he was insinuating that the game is boring for all people. You only need to take a quick look at the G&T forums for multiple evidence of pages long arguments springing directly from this kind of wording mistake. Are you suggesting that clarity in a medium lacking body language and tone of voice context cues is unneccessary?

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    A lot of people would take offense that he was insinutating that the game is boring for all people. You only need to take a quick look at the G&T forums for multiple evidence of pages long arguments springing directly from this kind of wording mistake.

    Yes. And they should stop that because its fucking retarded. Unless you were involved in making the game you should not get sad because someone has a strong dislike for something you like.

    And you should be allowed to express a strong dislike for something. It's not like he intimated that only retards would enjoy this product.

    (I think the "wanting to do too much" angle really sank it for me. I try and try and stretch thin and fail and don't understand the right series of steps to victory and then have sunk 2 hours accomplishing nothing and go GOD DAMN THIS)

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    All you really to do in Disgaea is get a bunch of dudes and then level them up so that you can beat the next stage. If you're having trouble then level up some or experiment around with different classes. It might seem overwhelming at first, but if you just experiment a bit and maybe read up on some stuff it becomes pretty fun to mess around. The only reason you'd need to know about all the special stuff is if you plan to beat all secret stuff, which would take over 100 hours so it's not for everybody.

    The main portion of Disgaea really isn't that hard, the enemy AI isn't that great and it's pretty easy to overpower everything. Just keep doing stuff and you'll get through. And if you don't like it, then you won't like it, and if you don't, I really don't recommend playing the second one because it's pretty much exactly the same thing.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    apotheos wrote: »
    A lot of people would take offense that he was insinutating that the game is boring for all people. You only need to take a quick look at the G&T forums for multiple evidence of pages long arguments springing directly from this kind of wording mistake.

    Yes. And they should stop that because its fucking retarded. Unless you were involved in making the game you should not get sad because someone has a strong dislike for something you like.

    And you should be allowed to express a strong dislike for something. It's not like he intimated that only retards would enjoy this product.

    (I think the "wanting to do too much" angle really sank it for me. I try and try and stretch thin and fail and don't understand the right series of steps to victory and then have sunk 2 hours accomplishing nothing and go GOD DAMN THIS)

    You are confusing what I am doing with my opinion on his opinion. (Lol at the wording of that sentence.)

    I'm fine if he has that opinion. He can hate it if he likes. That's a ok with me.

    I'm also a realist, and people will always be fucking retarded. It's much more efficient to teach people who are intelligent enough to watch their words to do so than go around banging on the bop a mole game of stop being an idiot in the middle of a pages long argument.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    apotheos wrote: »
    (I think the "wanting to do too much" angle really sank it for me. I try and try and stretch thin and fail and don't understand the right series of steps to victory and then have sunk 2 hours accomplishing nothing and go GOD DAMN THIS)

    There's actually a pretty strict powerleveling sequence of levels in Disgaea if you want to get up to the ridiculously high levels and secret areas and item dungeons. If you don't do it in that way then you'll be wasting your time, and even if you do it that way...again, 100+ hours, easily.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Of course my word is absolute fact!

    Disgaea is boring to play but has an entertaining story to tell. You don't need any more context than the fact that XoB stands by it!

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    edited July 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    As for team building I usually go with

    1 spear user
    1 fist user
    1 axe user
    2 sword users
    1-2 mages

    but that's just me. Furthermore, you'll want to make an effort to unlock Ronin and Ninja classes, since they're wholly improved over their basic counterparts (warrior/brawler).

    Spears kinda suck.

    Axes are okay, but all their special moves only hit one target.

    Personally, I'd go with given Laharl three pupils, all sword users. Flonne gets four pupils: one cleric and three mages. Etna gets a gun and no pupils. Then make one custom fist character and give her three fist-using pupils. All the other story characters can go suck a fuck. (Except Thursday but only if you get... eh, never mind. You're not there yet.)

    Why? You get more combos from swords and fists, and you get more combos by using pupils and mentors together. Having a quartet of sword users or fist users all together around a single mentor = massive combos. That'll help you grind the first 100 levels (if you want). Later on, both fist and sword users get 3x3 special attacks, which will help you grind past 100.

    Meanwhile Flonne learns healing and all the offensive magics. Keep the cleric around, too. Having two bad-ass healer-battle mages always helps.

    Yay, I'm sure I've confused things more.

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    Honestly, though, you could fuck all of that up and still have fun with it.

    If you start to get bored, just make a bunch of prinnies and throw them around. That'll cheer ya right up.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    As for team building I usually go with

    1 spear user
    1 fist user
    1 axe user
    2 sword users
    1-2 mages

    but that's just me. Furthermore, you'll want to make an effort to unlock Ronin and Ninja classes, since they're wholly improved over their basic counterparts (warrior/brawler).

    Spears kinda suck.

    Axes are okay, but all their special moves only hit one target.

    Personally, I'd go with given Laharl three pupils, all sword users. Flonne gets four pupils: one cleric and three mages. Etna gets a gun and no pupils. Then make one custom fist character and give her three fist-using pupils. All the other story characters can go suck a fuck. (Except Thursday but only if you get... eh, never mind. You're not there yet.)

    Why? You get more combos from swords and fists, and you get more combos by using pupils and mentors together. Having a quartet of sword users or fist users all together around a single mentor = massive combos. That'll help you grind the first 100 levels (if you want). Later on, both fist and sword users get 3x3 special attacks, which will help you grind past 100.

    Meanwhile Flonne learns healing and all the offensive magics. Keep the cleric around, too. Having two bad-ass healer-battle mages always helps.

    Yay, I'm sure I've confused things more.

    I gave a ronin an axe and she's basically a single target annihilator. When she gets to a target, that target dies.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    As for team building I usually go with

    1 spear user
    1 fist user
    1 axe user
    2 sword users
    1-2 mages

    but that's just me. Furthermore, you'll want to make an effort to unlock Ronin and Ninja classes, since they're wholly improved over their basic counterparts (warrior/brawler).

    Spears kinda suck.

    Axes are okay, but all their special moves only hit one target.

    Personally, I'd go with given Laharl three pupils, all sword users. Flonne gets four pupils: one cleric and three mages. Etna gets a gun and no pupils. Then make one custom fist character and give her three fist-using pupils. All the other story characters can go suck a fuck. (Except Thursday but only if you get... eh, never mind. You're not there yet.)

    Why? You get more combos from swords and fists, and you get more combos by using pupils and mentors together. Having a quartet of sword users or fist users all together around a single mentor = massive combos. That'll help you grind the first 100 levels (if you want). Later on, both fist and sword users get 3x3 special attacks, which will help you grind past 100.

    Meanwhile Flonne learns healing and all the offensive magics. Keep the cleric around, too. Having two bad-ass healer-battle mages always helps.

    Yay, I'm sure I've confused things more.
    The spear's extra reach comes in handy every so often. I like 'em okay. Plus I enjoy the variety. Same deal with the axe's power; situational, but nice.

    I've never used Flonne, personally, since I've usually got my mages cooked up before hitting chapter 1. She'd be fine to use, though, if you feel like waiting.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Axe's are some of the strongest weapons in the game, plus their special moves lower enemy stats.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Actually what you can do is easily make Laharl ridiculously powerful by doing the hospital cheat so you never have to even use another party member, basically. But that's cheap so if you're playing for the story don't do that.

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    edited July 2008
    I gave a ronin an axe and she's basically a single target annihilator. When she gets to a target, that target dies.

    Ultimately, any character is going to end up a single target annihilator.

    Eventually you're going to get to the point where Laharl (or your highest custom character) is powerful enough to take down any non-General/King/God NPC in one or two hits.

    The question is getting there. It is a lot easier to get there with swords and fists.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My team composition is very messy because I was learning the game as I went along. So it's all over the place now.

    I disagree feral. Axes do the highest single target damage bar none. They get the best single target specials. Swords are more for tactical strikes against multiples and distances.
    Axes just fuck up this one guy and do it best. She is half laharls level and does twice his damage with her specials.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    God. Just play the game and if you find you aren't winning, repeat an easier map a couple times. If you like the item world go for it. It can be ignored completely though, and you can still beat the story.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm so ocd about the item world I scare myself. Heh.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I hate the item world. I'm colourblind. It is an exercise in annoying setting up a chain only to realise that there were more colours than I could see - or checking to make sure that I know how many colours there are and spending forever trying to figure out which is which and get the pyramids on the right squares.

    I <3 Disgaea though.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    I hate the item world. I'm colourblind. It is an exercise in annoying setting up a chain only to realise that there were more colours than I could see - or checking to make sure that I know how many colours there are and spending forever trying to figure out which is which and get the pyramids on the right squares.

    I <3 Disgaea though.

    Wow that would suck. :(

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    the great thing about disgaea is its very forgiving. just do what you like and dont worry about doing everything "right". use whatever looks cool, and anything thats too hard just grind some and your numbers will get bigger. theres so much to ridiculous shit that if you get worried about doing everything perfectly youll go insane. or spend 500+ hours playing disgaea i guess.

    honestly disgaea is the game that broke me permanently of my OCD gaming habits. theres just too much to stress over it.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Disgaea is boring to play. Got a good story though, so I hung on to the end.

    D2 plays better, but has a boring as shit story.

    I think my favorite N1 game is still La Pucelle.

    I have to disagree here(except on La Pucelle; it does have my favorite story of all the NIS games), since I enjoyed D2's story.

    It's not as insanely hilarious as D1's, but it's still good.
    At least it has a happy ending.


    And the best way to minimize frustration is just get to a map with the EXP++ geo panels, level up accordingly, then decimate everything in your path.

    Most of the strategy in this game comes from breaking the numbers as thoroughly as possible.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Schide wrote: »
    All you really to do in Disgaea is get a bunch of dudes and then level them up so that you can beat the next stage. If you're having trouble then level up some or experiment around with different classes. It might seem overwhelming at first, but if you just experiment a bit and maybe read up on some stuff it becomes pretty fun to mess around. The only reason you'd need to know about all the special stuff is if you plan to beat all secret stuff, which would take over 100 hours so it's not for everybody.

    The main portion of Disgaea really isn't that hard, the enemy AI isn't that great and it's pretty easy to overpower everything. Just keep doing stuff and you'll get through. And if you don't like it, then you won't like it, and if you don't, I really don't recommend playing the second one because it's pretty much exactly the same thing.

    Well, yeah, I'm not really having much trouble getting through the story at all (so far), but it seems like, uh, the game is really only made fun by getting into the loads of side stuff. It's a bit bland otherwise.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My only complaint about Disgaea is the stupid "character must deliver killing blow to gain XP)
    FFT's system is so much more fun.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My only complaint about Disgaea is the stupid "character must deliver killing blow to gain XP)
    FFT's system is so much more fun.

    To be fair, they did fix that in Disgaea 2. Pretty much all the game elements are improved in the second iteration. If you gave me Disgaea 1's plot with Disgaea 2's characters you'd have a really swell SRPG.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My only complaint about Disgaea is the stupid "character must deliver killing blow to gain XP)
    FFT's system is so much more fun.

    Yeah, see, I totally agree with this. It's a stupid system.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Zeromus wrote: »
    My only complaint about Disgaea is the stupid "character must deliver killing blow to gain XP)
    FFT's system is so much more fun.

    Yeah, see, I totally agree with this. It's a stupid system.

    They can be part of a combo attack to gain xp as well. So you can give your level 1 healer a sword, stand next to Lahrl and get in on his combo to level up.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I think I ignored most of the item world. I would use normal level up the character techniques to get through the game.

    any combination of charcter works, as long as you stick with them.

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  • washoutwashout Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Basically just fight through and enjoy the story until you get to a good spot for power levelling with a lot of exp++ stuff and then powerlevel on that for a while. Honestly the game is really easy and short if you just smash the regular dudes and power through the game. If you are having trouble go back a few levels and power up a bit and then come back. You can throw monsters on each other to increase thier levels and other weird stuff too that makes powerlevelling even easier.

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