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'08 Console Tournaments: Rules & Info
Zig21
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This thread is for rules, registration guidelines, updates, schedules, and questions regarding console tournaments ONLY. This thread will NOT cover console freeplay or any other events, including handheld, PC, tabletop, etc. Please note that all information is subject to change between now and the end of August.
Schedule
Friday, August 29th
3:30pm~3:00am -- Super Smash Brothers Brawl (Wii)
Saturday, August 30th
11:30am~4:30pm -- Soul Calibur 4 (X-Box 360)
5:30pm~3:00am -- Guitar Hero 3 (X-Box 360)
Sunday, August 31st
12:00pm~5:00pm -- Halo 3 (X-Box 360)
Registration
Schedule
Friday, August 29th
3:30pm~3:00am -- Super Smash Brothers Brawl (Wii)
Saturday, August 30th
11:30am~4:30pm -- Soul Calibur 4 (X-Box 360)
5:30pm~3:00am -- Guitar Hero 3 (X-Box 360)
Sunday, August 31st
12:00pm~5:00pm -- Halo 3 (X-Box 360)
Registration
- Registration for ALL console tournaments begins on Friday, August 29th, right outside of the console tournament area.
- Signups for Saturday and Sunday tournaments will be limited on Friday and Saturday. Unrestricted registration begins 2 hours before a specific event. See an individual tournament's section below for more information.
- Each tournament has two lists: Main and Standby. Once the Main list has been filled up, you can only sign up on Standby. This means you can only enter the tournament if someone from the Main list fails to show up (odds of this happening are generally pretty good). Entrants from Standby are on a first-come, first-served basis.
- If you do not have a complete team for a team tourney, you must enter on Standby. If you can subsequently find a team before the tournament starts AND there is room on the Main list, you will be moved into a guaranteed spot. Otherwise, you will be paired up with whoever else we choose from the Standby list.
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When: Friday (8/29), 3:30pm~3:00am
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Cap: 256 players
Rules
Stocks: 3
Time Limit: 5 minutes
Damage Ratio: 1.0
Stage Selection: Random
Pause: Off
Items: Off
You may bring your own controller if you wish, provided it's not wireless. If you prefer a Wiimote and/or Nunchuck, you may only use those we provide at each station. Classic controllers are also allowed.
During a match, the winner of an individual game must keep same character. Loser may switch characters if they wish to do so. This rule ONLY applies to a single opponent. At the start of a new match, you may select any character.
Stalling tactics are not allowed. You may use infinites, but not for stalling purposes. Also, no Meta Knight glitch.
Available Stages:*
Battlefield, Final Destination, Delfino Plaza, Luigi's Mansion, Frigate Orpheon, Pirate Ship, Yoshi's Island, Halberd, Lylat Cruise, Pokemon Stadium 2, Smashville, Castle Siege, Green Hill Zone, Jungle Japes, Corneria, Pokemon Stadium
Before each game, either player can propose playing on any stage of their choice. If the opponent agrees, they may select that stage. Otherwise, they must choose random stage select.
*Subject to change.
Format: Qualifiers
Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
When: Saturday (8/30), 11:30am~4:30pm
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Cap: 256 players
Rules
Standard Versus
Battle Count (Rounds): 3
Battle Time: 60 seconds
HP Gauge: default
Soul Gauge: default
Random Stage Select ONLY
You may bring your own controller if you wish, provided it's not wireless.
Yoda and Algol are not allowed.
Ivy's infinite is not allowed. If you land Sword Stance While-Rising B, you can't do another one. Any other followup is fair game.
Assuming it's real, Mitsu's infinite is also banned....except when you're facing B:L. In that case, you may use it and he may not.
But seriously, no infinites.
During a match, the winner of an individual game must keep same character. Loser may switch characters and/or sides if they wish to do so. This rule ONLY applies to a single opponent. At the start of a new match, you may select any character.
You MUST configure your controls at the character select screen. If you fail to do so, immediately pause the game at the start of the match and go back to Character Select.
Format: Qualifiers
Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
When: Saturday (8/30), 5:30pm~3:00am
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Cap: 256 players
Rules
Pro Face-Off
Difficulty:
-Hard during pool play (both players may select Expert if they wish to do so)
-Expert during semi-finals
You may bring your own controller if you wish, provided it's not wireless.
Song Selection
For each match, we will provide a list of three randomly selected songs. Each player will have the option of eliminating one song from the list, and must play whichever song is left. For any best-of-3 match, this list is extended to 5 songs (players still get only one pick per match).
Format
When: Sunday (8/31), 12:00pm~5:00pm
Format: 4 vs 4, Team Slayer, single elimination
Cap: 128 teams (512 players)
Rules
Team Slayer, 4 vs 4
First to 50 kills
15 minute time limit
5 second respawn time
10 second suicide penalty
10 second betrayal penalty
Starting weapon: Battle Rifle
No Vehicles
No radar
You may bring your own controller if you wish, provided it's not wireless.
If you quit the game for ANY reason short of a serious emergency, the current game will proceed without you. If your team wins, you will be allowed to play in the next match. Should your entire team quit without permission, it will count as a forfeit and you will be eliminated from the tournament. This rule also applies if you reset the game or console.
Maps:*
Construct, Guardian, High Ground, Narrows, The Pit
Each round in the bracket will be on a different map. Before each match, both teams may agree to play on any map if they wish to do so.
*Subject to change.
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Format: Qualifiers
Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
This post will be used to answer popular questions.
Do you know anything about handheld events?
No, now get off my lawn.
When will rules for (insert game) be finished?
Soon, hopefully. As of this posting, Soul Calibur 4 isn't technically out yet but shouldn't take long to finalize. Smash and Halo 3 are close to being finished, and the rules for Guitar Hero 3 will be more or less the same as last year's GH2 rule set.
Where's Mario Kart?!?!?!?!?
It pains me to say this, but Mario Kart is out until further notice. After 4 outstanding years of Double Dash tournaments, we were ready to move on to Mario Kart Wii. Then we discovered it has no network play. The only options are split screen (4 players max) and wifi (uhhhhh no). In addition, we will only be using 16 Wiis in order to avoid synchronization issues. Finally, all multiplayer content must be unlocked in singleplayer AND you cannot transfer the game's data file between Wiis. Taking all of this into account, we decided it just wouldn't work. Hopefully some kind of compromise can be found next year.
#2) Will we have time to sign up for SSBB on Friday if we are toward the back of the entrance line? Or should we aim to be there pretty early to get int he front of the line to run to the console tourney sign up?
I remebed last year being alot more and 06 I really didn't do tournments but I would think more than 4?
and I agree as far as Mario Kart goes, we should stick with Double Dash, and figure out a solution for MK: Wii for next year. Oh well..
We try to be consistent when it comes to hardware, especially as systems die out. In addition, a lot of the GCs we used last year are no longer available.
Brawl registration will be open for several hours, but the main list will probably fill up in short order. If you're stuck near the back and can't get there n in time, you can still sign up on standby.
Yes. We were considering adding other games, but they either won't be out in time or present major logistical problems.
I decided against including Rock Band because the hardware situation would've been a disaster. That being said, we're still trying to include some kind of event outside of console tournament. I'm not involved so I can't make any promises, but keep an eye out.
the rock band drums can be broken apart and fit in a fairly small bag since all the pieces come apart. they fit in a smaller bag than my guitar does.
maybe some things can be setup in the freeplay rooms, but that depends on what's there
I think the hardware problem is that the hardware just isn't tough enough. Not to mention the difficulty in arranging teams, although given the inclusion of Halo I'm getting that's not such a big thing.
(Yeah any Mario Kart is better then none
But yes somebody did bring up something about a workaround for transferring Brawl saves, I'll have to test it sometime. However when it comes to MK: Wii saves, I'm not sure, since the save files link to Mii's and if the Mii is deleted, so is the save, so I doubt MK saves can transfer.
EDIT:
Is it possible yet to confirm if we are able to choose our play/control style for Brawl, or will that come with the rules? (i.e. wii-mote, GC controller, classic controller, etc)
Transporting them isn't the problem. Console Tournament just isn't the right venue for a large-scale Rock Band competition.
No split screen, so any tournament would take forever unless we set an obscenely low team cap.
At this team, I plan on allowing players to use whichever controller they prefer.
It'll probably be default weapon settings, with some tweaks based on popular tournament rule sets. If you have any recommendations, please post a link.
I would like to know, is it MLG Rule sets? Or standard team slayer?
What Maps are used?
etc
http://www.mlgpro.com/?q=node/192918
This is the standard for Tournament Halo
As said above:
No split-screen=too much time or seriously short games. It can't work with the time and space restrictions.
it was already stated why
there is no splitscreen
look up a couple of posts
Just in case some of you don't know... TBA = To Be Announced.
I'm sure I'm not alone when I say it was the most fun tournament at PAX -- all four years. It'd be a shame, A SHAME, to drop it. And I'm sure if you put out a notice, you'll be able to track down enough GameCubes (hell, I can provide 5+ myself). Double Dash is pretty much the reason I come to PAX -- make it happen!
Love you God.
PS: As the 2nd place champion three years running (four for my friend), I NEED my 1st place! I've invested too much time not to get another shot!
I wonder... if it's feasible that I organize an unofficial tournament? That's how much I want to play MKWii with you guys. I pretty much only need a bit of space and time in one of the console freeplay rooms... Is this possible? Do you guys have interest in this? Cuz if so, I'll do it.
Duderdude, I've come in 3rd or 4th three years running in MKDD. YOU ARE THE ENEMY.
I'll talk to Kenneth and see what's available in Console Freeplay.
I would also love some MKDD
Calm down? Keep on topic.
As far as people complaining, yeah I understand (kinda) but really look at the pre pax tournments join up there!
As far as freeplay is going do they do tournments as well because last year was the only year I havedobe tournments and I don't go to the big ones (besides gears) I skipped mario kart, gh ii, and smash bros because I didn't want to waste time so does freeplay also do tournements because I remeber being in like 3 last year and still had fun!
And again, great job staff, this pax is about to be ephick!
I know it will all amount to moot what I'll say... but I didn't enter any tournaments last year, and it looks like I'll have to repeat that. I don't want too... but I don't really play any of those.
Sadly, it's another weird "transition" year. By now I was hoping we'd have more fun, new tournament games compared to last year, but this console generation has been fairly disappointing in that regard.
Check the first post.
For Smash Brothers Brawl, what controls will be used? Would it be safe to assume a Wiimote/Nunchuck combination?